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Old 10-08-2003, 04:29 AM   #21
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Zoocoustic I'm sure the same amount of venom can be applied to the alternate side as well. Try to keep off the grand sweeping generalisations ok?
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Old 10-08-2003, 09:36 AM   #22
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...Yeah, until someone conservative comes out and says:

"I'm against gay marriage."

"I'm against abortion."

and so forth.

Then, all of the sudden, it's considered "hate speech" and we're asked why someone is allowed to talk this way.

You hypocritical ignorant leftists need to be willing to take it as much as you dish it out. Michael Moore DID have the right to say those things. And I think he's a fat, pompous, hate-filled, two-faced idiot. That's my right. Don't slam me for having my opinion if I'm supposed to tolerate his and yours.
On behalf of all lefties, thank you for your sweeping generalization.

Saying you are against gay marraiges or abortion does not rise to the level of hate speech. I do not begrudge anyone for having this view point ... I may disagree with you, but you can have whatever opinions you want.

When you say you want to kill gay people or those who want to perform abortions, that's hate speech.

Get your examples straight before you begin calling anyone a hypocrite.
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On behalf of all lefties, thank you for your sweeping generalization.

Saying you are against gay marraiges or abortion does not rise to the level of hate speech. I do not begrudge anyone for having this view point ... I may disagree with you, but you can have whatever opinions you want.

When you say you want to kill gay people or those who want to perform abortions, that's hate speech.

Get your examples straight before you begin calling anyone a hypocrite.
Exactly right.

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On behalf of all lefties, thank you for your sweeping generalization.

Saying you are against gay marraiges or abortion does not rise to the level of hate speech. I do not begrudge anyone for having this view point ... I may disagree with you, but you can have whatever opinions you want.

When you say you want to kill gay people or those who want to perform abortions, that's hate speech.

Get your examples straight before you begin calling anyone a hypocrite.
I agree.
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You hypocritical ignorant leftists need to be willing to take it as much as you dish it out. Michael Moore DID have the right to say those things. And I think he's a fat, pompous, hate-filled, two-faced idiot. That's my right. Don't slam me for having my opinion if I'm supposed to tolerate his and yours.
Great. So I can call you a complete and utter waste of humanity, and yet another piece of right-wing extremist trash and you can't slame me for having my opinion, if I'm supposed to tolerate yours.

What a frabjuous day for all...

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(In case you didn't notice, this isn't meant to be a personal attack, but, rather, a counterpoint to the logic of the argument.)
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Hey! Stop hijacking my thread!!!!!!

This was supposed to be a open forum allowing all those who were angered by Moore's speech to apologize and pay ME some respect in the process

Stop running off on tangents about democracy and focus on what's important: Danospano was right and many others were wrong

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Whoa. On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan from Canada, I'd like to thank the Academy for this.
I have invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us, and we would like to they're here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction.
We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times.
We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president.
We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.
Whether it's the fictition of duct tape or fictition of orange alerts we are against this war, Mr. Bush.
Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you.
And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much.
sorry... still disagree... constitution still says that the winner of the electoral college shall become president... florida voting records still say that bush won the election, giving him the majority of electoral votes... still believe going to baghdad was the right thing to do... still would rather have the color system, as flawed as it may be, than have no warning system at all... still see no problem with people being aware of their surroundings and prepared just in case... still haven't seen a terrorist attack on american soil since 9/11, despite many tries... still think moore's a pompous p.o.s. who hides behind "but i'm only a comedian" when proven wrong and wants all the glory when he's right... shame on you, mr. moore... shame on you
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still haven't seen a terrorist attack on american soil since 9/11, despite many tries
Aren't you forgetting the anthrax attacks in the DC area?
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Any proof yet of where these came from? Or did we just sweep them under the rug? Either way it's just one more thing we can chalk up to something the administration can't find.
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Disagree with definitely. Ridicule not.
Oh please. One person's disagreement is another's ridicule.
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Oh please. One person's disagreement is another's ridicule.
I disagree...
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Now we have a womanizer to ridicule, oh I mean disagree with.
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I disagree...
Hey!!!! Stop ridiculing him!!!!!
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Too bad Mr. Moore does not understand the meaning of fictitious. Maybe if he learned that a documentary uses FACTS then he could move on from there. Until then, good luck to him. Oh and Scarletwine, your signature on fascism is a little off. It is the marriage of business to government, meaning that the government uses corporations for its interests not the other way around.
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no matter whether Moore is right or wrong
the way he chooses to present his views will rather cause more devision between people than a mutual understanding

of course this will help you to sell
but not to convince anyone of your ideals
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no matter whether Moore is right or wrong
the way he chooses to present his views will rather cause more devision between people than a mutual understanding

of course this will help you to sell
but not to convince anyone of your ideals


It's all about the $$$
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Dude, I think Moore should run for being President... Bits our dear friend Bushy... btw, did anyone see his press confrence yesturday... :P
Forget about tuning into the Comedy Network channel...
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Sorry, spelling mistake, not "bits" but "beats".
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Micahel Moore was right, then and now. He's just become the new poster boy for the far fight by voicing dissent. And really; calling him fat won't work to dissuade his argument; Rush Limbaugh is fat and messed up on drugs and we had to listen to him for years.

The political pendulum has swung and the positions of the right are slipping in favor in this country. Accept.
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the "political pendulum" is based on one thing and one thing alone... the all mighty dollar. if the economy is down, people will swing towards the side that isn't in power. if the economy is up, it will swing towards those who are in power. so if the economy continues to swing upwards, bush will be re-elected... if it takes another downturn, he won't be. and then michael moore can say that it was the voice of america finally striking down the ficticious bush administration. and if he gets re-elected, he can say he's just a comedian and you shouldn't take him serious. and so it goes... and so it goes...
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