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Old 03-21-2010, 10:40 PM   #381
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as Frum pointed out, Rush is thrilled. more anger! let's focus all our rage at those faggots and n*ggers in Congress!
True - he thrived during the Clinton years with the rest of us.
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Rush + viagra + young Costa Rican girls (or boys?) = the good life.
viagra + young Costa Rican girls (or boys) should not be a privilege. It should be a right. Social justice now.

If I knew how the markets would react I'd be on the phone with my portfolio manager first thing in the morning. And no, I'm not filthy rich, I just take personal responsibility for my own retirement. I don't trust Social Security to provide for me anymore than I will Obamacare.
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What really happened here today?


Some Dems grew a pair. The GOP have been given way too wide a berth.

For a party out of power, they have been controlling quite a bit.

Obama and the Dems should toughen up and move some damn legislation and lead.
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on a serious note, never, ever doubt the persistence and tenacity of the Big O. you can disagree all you want, and that's fine, but he's made of steel, all professorial affects aside.
sure he deserves credit, but I would give even more to Pelosi.
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viagra + young Costa Rican girls (or boys) should not be a privilege. It should be a right. Social justice now.
Was Viagra coverage included in the bill just passed?
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only if we get the same coverage as congress.
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Does anyone think that a year or two from now,
when someone opens their mail and their Health Insurance premium goes up from $400 a month to $635 a month.

They will call or write their Congressman and demand that something be done, because they now see a government connection?
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on a serious note, never, ever doubt the persistence and tenacity of the Big O. you can disagree all you want, and that's fine, but he's made of steel, all professorial affects aside.
Except that he vowed a "laser-like focus on jobs" back in January.
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Except that he vowed a "laser-like focus on jobs" back in January.


he can multitask.

and the economy is going to be better in November.

first, he prevents a second Great Depression with the stimulus, and also manages to pull it back from the brink.

then, he extends health care to 32 million Americans despite the most rabid opposition since ... civil rights? (no surprise there)

as ever: what can't O do?

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Does anyone think that a year or two from now,
when someone opens their mail and their Health Insurance premium goes up from $400 a month to $635 a month.

They will call or write their Congressman and demand that something be done, because they now see a government connection?


my premiums have been going up an average of 33% a year without any government help.

thankfully, i had my accident after i became a paying member of BCBS, otherwise, i might be uninsurable.
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The amount of absolute butthurt I've witnessed via my Facebook friends' status updates has been astounding. You'd think Obama just... killed a baby.
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my premiums have been going up an average of 33% a year without any government help.

thankfully, i had my accident after i became a paying member of BCBS, otherwise, i might be uninsurable.
that is just it
the Ins Companies can do what ever they want, and have been
people that argue for them in 2010? I don't get it.

But, with a National Health Bill people will expect congress to have some control.
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he can multitask.
Multitasking and laser-like focus are oxymorons.

Multitasking is being president and commander-in-chief plus running the banks, home mortgage companies and car companies ingested by the government since Obama's inauguration. To which we can soon add the student loan program and our nation's health care system.
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as ever: what can't O do?
No Olympics for Chicago. No climate treaty.

Has he lowered the sea levels yet? How about created anything other than government jobs?
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The amount of absolute butthurt I've witnessed via my Facebook friends' status updates has been astounding. You'd think Obama just... killed a baby.
Start de-friending, or at least start feed blocking.

That's what I'd do to you, frankly. Wait.
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I've watched most of this debate on C-Span today.

There are a couple of real fringe, whack jobs in Congress. pandering to the paranoid masses out there.
I guess they were not done, yet.


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Reporters in the House chamber said the “baby killer” shout seemed to come from a group of lawmakers that included Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.), but he said it wasn’t him. “I don't think it’s appropriate at all," Campbell told POLITICO.

Campbell said the voice came from the floor – from someone who was behind him and to the left. "Some people know who it is but won't say,” he added.

Later, he told reporters that he thought the voice belonged to one of the Texas Republicans seated behind him. "The people who know won't give it up," he told reporters. "I'm not casting dispersions on that state."

Texas Republican Rep. Joe Barton said he heard the shout but wouldn't say who was responsible.

"I can make a guess," Barton told reporters.

House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.), who was in the chair at the time, said he saw a Republican lawmaker shout out “baby killer” – but he wouldn’t say who it was, either.

"I think members have a right to make an idiot of themselves once without being exposed," he said.

House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who was subjected to an anti-gay epithet from a protestor Saturday, said the "baby killer" shout showed the close alignment between the GOP and some of its most extreme allies in the health care fight.

"The difference between some of the Republicans and some of their raucous followers appears to be, unfortunately, diminishing," Frank said. "Obviously, that's not the whole party, but there's a disturbing tendency to forget about civility."


Read more: Bart Stupak called 'baby killer' on House floor - Jake Sherman and Meredith Shiner - POLITICO.com
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someone called it soviet style heathcare.

question for the historians, because i seriously don't know. at what point was everyone in the soviet union provided government supported healthcare?
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someone called it soviet style heathcare.

question for the historians, because i seriously don't know. at what point was everyone in the soviet union provided government supported healthcare?
That was the whole point of socialism - I imagine there were instances where some people didn't get covered, but the one of the concepts of the Soviet Union was health care for all.

However, there were no insurance companies, no private hospitals, just the state, which is a huge difference.

Many European countries (including my own) has a government-owned, government-run health care system, with a private option for those who want it (and can afford it). If "Obamacare" is "Soviet style" then I guess I'm living in North Korea...

Just want to share my enthusiasm for this bill, even though I live in Denmark and this has nothing to do with me, I genuinely believe that all Americans will benefit from this legislation. A big congratulations to Obama and Pelosi and every U.S. citizen from me.
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No Olympics for Chicago. No climate treaty.
And I'll be quick to note that unless you're joking, I don't think anything could have gotten the Olympics to Chicago, and if Obama couldn't push through a climate treaty, I don't think anyone could.

(Or maybe Copenhagen and President Obama just don't mix very well.)
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That was the whole point of socialism - I imagine there were instances where some people didn't get covered, but the one of the concepts of the Soviet Union was health care for all.

However, there were no insurance companies, no private hospitals, just the state, which is a huge difference.

Many European countries (including my own) has a government-owned, government-run health care system, with a private option for those who want it (and can afford it). If "Obamacare" is "Soviet style" then I guess I'm living in North Korea...
i knew what the point of socialism was i've just never studied the necessary history to know if the slightly busted ass soviet union ever pulled it together. your second paragraph addresses my question perfectly, thanks

and it sounds like the healthcare system in my country. the public option isn't ideal, but it's a damn sight better than being bankrupted should i get cancer through no fault of my own.
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So, have the gays started rounding up the Christians yet? Isn't that what was supposed to happen the minute this thing passed?
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