MANDATORY health insurance - Page 32

VintagePunk · 08-26-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS

Yeah, that part cracked me up. It's such a fuzzy math shit way of reporting statistics.

Yes. The implication is that hospital staff are yelling at mothers-to-be "WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR YOU! GO GIVE BIRTH IN THAT BATHROOM OVER THERE!"

INDY500 · 08-26-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by deep

If Ted Kennedy was living in England right now under their NHS he would be much better off than he is here.

Sly.

INDY500 · 08-26-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Yes. The implication is that hospital staff are yelling at mothers-to-be "WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR YOU! GO GIVE BIRTH IN THAT BATHROOM OVER THERE!"

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overstretched maternity units shut their doors to any more women in labour on 553 occasions last year.

VintagePunk · 08-26-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by INDY500

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That would be at individual hospitals. And I'm sure it wouldn't be women for whom birth was imminent. So, they'd be sent to another hospital in the area.

553 women out of how many...? And how many of those 553 made it to another hospital and gave birth without incident?

BVS · 08-26-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Yes. The implication is that hospital staff are yelling at mothers-to-be "WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR YOU! GO GIVE BIRTH IN THAT BATHROOM OVER THERE!"

Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on, but what passes as a meaningful "statistic" these days is pretty embarassing.

deep · 08-26-2009, 04:38 PM

we could go back to no government provided or private health insurance and have people being born in barns

that was good enough for ...

oh never mind, this is the public market place of ideas

INDY500 · 08-26-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by deep

we could go back to no government provided or private health insurance and have people being born in barns

that was good enough for ...

oh never mind, this is the public market place of ideas

Sorry Mary, no maternity rooms at Bethlehem General Hospital. Try down the street at Saint (to be named in a couple a hundred years).

VintagePunk · 08-26-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by INDY500

Sorry Mary, no maternity rooms at Bethlehem General Hospital. Try down the street at Saint (to be named in a couple a hundred years).

Oh, that's funny. But tell me - how many babies are put at risk every year because of the US health care system? How many expectant mothers are foregoing prenatal care? How many don't give birth under proper circumstances? Why is your infant mortality rate higher than many other western nations, including those with socialized health care?

**KhanadaRhodes** · 08-26-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS

Yeah, that part cracked me up. It's such a fuzzy math shit way of reporting statistics.

especially when any sitcom will tell you all babies are born in elevators during snow storms. with your mortal enemy as the only person there to assist.

BVS · 08-26-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KhanadaRhodes

especially when any sitcom will tell you all babies are born in elevators during snow storms. with your mortal enemy as the only person there to assist.

If Zack Morris can do it, anyone can do it...

HyperU2 · 08-26-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Oh, that's funny. But tell me - how many babies are put at risk every year because of the US health care system? How many expectant mothers are foregoing prenatal care? How many don't give birth under proper circumstances? Why is your infant mortality rate higher than many other western nations, including those with socialized health care?

It's higher by about 1 death.

Irvine511 · 08-26-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Oh, that's funny. But tell me - how many babies are put at risk every year because of the US health care system? How many expectant mothers are foregoing prenatal care? How many don't give birth under proper circumstances? Why is your infant mortality rate higher than many other western nations, including those with socialized health care?

our diversity -- in every sense of that word -- that does not have an equal in other Western nations.

i'm for serial.

Irvine511 · 08-26-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperU2

It's higher by about 1 death.

so our health care only sucks a little bit more than others?

or did you mean that, yes, it is higher in the US, despite claims that our magical free market health care falls short of other nations with evil socialist health care?

HyperU2 · 08-26-2009, 05:45 PM

I meant who really gives a shit about 1?

**KhanadaRhodes** · 08-26-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperU2

I meant who really gives a shit about 1?

the parents?

HyperU2 · 08-26-2009, 05:46 PM

They should probably have been more concerned with prenatal care then.

BVS · 08-26-2009, 05:47 PM

Wow... another one.

**KhanadaRhodes** · 08-26-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperU2

They should probably have been more concerned with prenatal care then.

it isn't always that simple. sometimes miscarriages happen and babies die even if the mother took excellent care of herself throughout the entire stage of pregnancy. the world isn't just black and white, good and bad. but i really don't feel like getting into this with you.

coolian2 · 08-26-2009, 05:52 PM

there is one we could have done without. not pointing fingers, just saying....

martha · 08-26-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperU2

They should probably have been more concerned with prenatal care then.

I know. Assholes. Fuck 'em.

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deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 04:09 AM	we could go back to no government provided or private health insurance and have people being born in barns that was good enough for ... oh never mind, this is the public market place of ideas

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HyperU2 War Child Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Carlisle PA Posts: 818 Local Time: 06:09 AM	I meant who really gives a shit about 1?

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HyperU2 War Child Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Carlisle PA Posts: 818 Local Time: 06:09 AM	They should probably have been more concerned with prenatal care then.

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BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 06:09 AM	Wow... another one.

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coolian2 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hamilton (No longer STD capital of NZ) Posts: 42,934 Local Time: 12:09 AM	there is one we could have done without. not pointing fingers, just saying....