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Old 09-30-2011, 04:07 PM   #141
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During a campaign event in Iowa Friday, Gingrich dismissed same-sex marriage as a "temporary aberration," reports Jason Clayworth for The Des Moines Register.

is he talking about SSM, or one of his three marriages?
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one of his three marriages?

I guess that would be a no- even serving divorce papers on his cancer stricken wife.

All kinds of aberrations are allowed in straight marriages-well, just cause they're straight marriages.

And of course any and all aberrations in Newt's marriages were because of his love of country zeal which forced him to have affairs. aka America boners.
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Why is that deserving of a thumbs up? Why the hard-on for making the rich richer?
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and all that means, apparently, is keeping taxes low on rich all people.
Did you not notice I stuck the word rich and replaced it with all?

I want taxes low for everyone. So should you.
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killing the environment, giving us all cancer
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Did you not notice I stuck the word rich and replaced it with all?

I want taxes low for everyone. So should you.
I did notice. My post stands. Why should I want really rich people to pay the same tax rate as me or my even poorer neighbor? What good does that do any of us?
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The problem is this whole buffett rule is just posturing. It won't accomplish anything. The majority of these big wigs make very little actual "income." The majority of their wealth is in long term investments, which are taxed at a much, much lower rate.

So the country is screaming for a higher income tax rate for the super rich, when the reality is that wont really effect the super rich because the majority of their money is in long term investments.

They won't play around with capital gains tax out of the fear that people will pull their money from the stock market.

So we're fucked.
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They won't play around with capital gains tax out of the fear that people will pull their money from the stock market.

So we're fucked.
That isn't their motivation. If it were then Canadians, who are currently in a situation about 20x better than the Americans would not be investing in the stock market at all. 50% of capital gains in Canada are taxable at your respective income tax rate. There are other examples in the world as well.

The real reason is the lobby preventing this.

Just like the lobby preventing the very sensible financial speculation or financial transaction tax, proposed by such communists like Sarkozy and Merkel.
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Fair enough... but they still won't touch it, and sell this phony income tax increase instead.
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The only thing that is phony is pretending it's going to solve everything.

We could use an extra 800 billion in tax revenue that was in place the last time the budget was actually balanced. And BEFORE all these Baby Boomers start retiring. And BEFORE we had to finance two wars. And BEFORE bailouts and...you get the idea.

Federal revenues average about 18% (to GDP) over the last 30 years.
It was at 20% when the budget was actually balanced last in FY 2000/2001.
Revenues were lower in 2003 and 2004 than they are now in 2011.
Those Bush tax cuts directly affected/added to the deficit.
The outrageous spending under Obama has quadrupled it.
They are both part of the problem.

The bottom line is, revenues need to be higher than recent historical average (18%) because expenses are going up. We got to 20% under the Clinton rates, we can't get back there without them. There's nothing phony about simple math.

But yeah, the reliance on taxing the rich, as if it is the biggest key to the whole puzzle is phony and political. We need to increase revenues somehow. Cutting spending is also a HUGE piece of the puzzle.

We could be cutting spending NOW if the Democrats weren't using that to leverage those tax cuts...aside from never wanting to cut anything.
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The only thing that is phony is pretending it's going to solve everything

has anyone, anywhere, suggested this? everyone, including and especially the president, has agreed that revenue increases must be coupled with spending cuts, which is exactly what has been proposed. the only people who seem to be inflexible are the GOP -- in their refusal to raise any taxes, anywhere, as well as their refusal to cut defense spending.

while politics is certainly at play for both sides, it's phony, to me, to pretend that there's any sort of equivalence in intransigence and divorce form reality between the two parties.
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The only people that are inflexible are the GOP?
What does President Obama have to say about that?

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Now, I realize there are some in my party who don’t think we should make any changes at all to Medicare and Medicaid, and I understand their concerns. But here’s the truth: Millions of Americans rely on Medicare in their retirement. And millions more will do so in the future. They pay for this benefit during their working years. They earn it. But with an aging population and rising health care costs, we are spending too fast to sustain the program. And if we don’t gradually reform the system while protecting current beneficiaries, it won’t be there when future retirees need it. We have to reform Medicare to strengthen it.
He's not just saying that to give Republicans ammo against Democrats.
He knows there are non-serous Democrats in Congress that (effectively) don't want to cut anything substantial - from where it needs to come from (Medicare and Medicaid).

Obama, to his credit, is attempting to get serious about it.

FTR, I didn't draw any equivalence or at least I didn't want to. I'm just saying that both sides are responsible for the problem. But yeah, one is certainly more egregious with their intransigent Tax Religion.

Let's just wait and see what kind of serious cuts the Democrats come up with on that committee and if they can get them done before the automatic cuts kick in. And hell...maybe it is a case where the Republicans are just stonewalling them no matter what and nothing will get done. Wouldn't surprise anyone of us. So, we shall see.
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Herman Cain: Name of Rick Perry's hunting camp shows 'insensitivity' - latimes.com

Cain is all done, not really news. It is just official now.

Some kids painted a rock, big deal. No need to go all Al Sharpton, and play the race card.
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Obesity debate rages on talk of Christie White House bid | Reuters



this is one to watch, (if you get the jumbo popcorn, you get a free refilll)
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isn't it less his obesity and more his fairly serious asthma that have put him in the hospital several times?
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I would think obesity aggravates asthma. I posted something about this in the food police thread. If he was female, forget about it. It'd be over before it started.

And apparently NJ has a higher unemployment rate than the national rate.
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sounds like even the GOP base is sick of idiot devil clowns from Texas?

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Some not-so-encouraging numbers for Texas Gov. Rick Perry in two new polls -- he has taken a drastic fall in the numbers while businessman Herman Cain gobbles up all that lost support.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll out Tuesday shows businessman Herman Cain has tied Perry for second place behind front-runner Mitt Romney. Romney is at 25 percent while Cain and Perry each get 16 percent.

But the trajectory is an indicator of the men's fortunes. The Texas governor has fallen 13 percentage points since the last poll, while Cain has risen 12 in the last month.

As for the rest of the pack, Texas Rep. Ron Paul reaches double digits with 11 percent, while former House speaker Newt Gingrich and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann are holding at 7 percent. Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum is at 2 percent, while former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman is holding at 1 percent.

The telephone poll from Sept. 29-Oct. 2 of 1,002 adults also showed that Perry, who performed poorly in recent debates and whose immigration positions are at odds with most of the GOP base, has seen his support among self-identified Tea Party backers drop from 45 --10 percent in one month -- in September he had a 3 to 1 advantage over any other candidate.

Conservatives who answered the poll also dropped their support for Perry from 39 percent to 19 percent in one month. The Texas governor's debate performances have reverberated on the campaign trail. He's found himself repeatedly answering questions about his support for a policy giving in-state tuition rates to children of illegal immigrants, after being challenged on the debate stage.

Cain, on the other hand, whose strong performance in the debates was followed by a series of big showings in straw polls, has surged from 5 percent to 30 percent among Tea Party backers, taking him to the top of the heap. The charismatic businessman has been pushing his catchy "9-9-9" economic plan, which calls for overhauling the tax code and instituting a 9 percent corporate tax, income tax and national sales tax.

Asked about the poll results, Cain, who appeared on Fox News Tuesday morning, said he hadn't seen the results, but he wasn't totally surprised.

"We hadn't seen that yet, but that is great news. It says that the flavor of the week might have some substance. Black walnut isn't a flavor of the week," said Cain, who was referring to himself, but also his favorite ice cream.

A separate poll out Monday in the state of Florida -- where the turn of fortunes originated following the Fox News/Google debate of Sept. 22 -- also shows a major shift in the balance.

Cain is now running in second place in Florida, surging nearly 19 points since the debate and the Florida Republican Party's Presidency 5 straw poll to 24 percent. Meantime, Perry's support has dropped nearly 16 points to 9 percent, fourth place. Romney's support stays steady, but grew by 3 points to 28 percent.

According to a survey of likely Florida voters conducted by War Room Logistics, a Republican polling firm, and issued by The Miami Herald, Perry had been tied as a Florida front-runner with Romney at about 25 percent on Sept. 20, but now trails Newt Gingrich, who's in the third spot at 10 percent.

According to the poll of 1,331 likely voters taken Sept. 30, Romney remains the best general-election candidate against President Obama. Romney trails Obama 42 percent to 48 percent, the smallest margin for the GOP candidates. Against all the other Republican candidates, Obama earns more than 50 percent.

The War Room Logistics surveys have been unlike any other in Florida because they are based on a sample of likely voters, instead of just registered voters. Around now, it’s more common (and cheaper) to poll registered voters because the campaigns aren’t in full swing and it’s a little tougher to estimate the likely voter population.

However, since the numbers have swung so wildly in just 10 days, it's a safe bet to say this is anyone's game right now.

Read more: Perry Slides In Two New Polls | Fox News
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