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Old 03-16-2020, 08:29 PM   #501
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The Governor of Connecticut still cannot get 200 nurses on quarantine tested. Think about that for a second.

Meanwhile in my wife’s hometown in Brazil - Brazil, a country run by a lunatic - you can dial a public health care number and people will bring a testing kit to your home.
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Clearly there's a difference between lunatic and moron
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Clearly there's a difference between lunatic and moron
I mean, Bolsonaro is both, but yes.

It turns out that having a public health care system makes you less dependent on morons when shit like this happens.
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Interesting how independent conservatives have gone quiet now that Trump has declared this thing, ya know, not fake.
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Did you know that this is just Q setting up for the storm? I do, now. I wish I didn't, but I do.
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Great initiative by Raul Krauthausen, one of the most prominent German activists for the rights of disabled, and others: https://www.facebook.com/raul.krauth...10065939011597

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Hi, it's us. The #riskgroup. You thought we'd be chainsmoking morbidly sick or at least old? Not at all. None of us is retired and we like going to clubs, bars and concerts as much as you do. What we don't want is to die. But exactly this is not so unlikely if you don't just stay home over the next couple of weeks and reduce your radius of social interation for a while. Just whatever they health minister proposes.

In Italy it's already too late: Doctors have to make the decision who to ventilate - and who'll die. Why? Well, among other reasons because people kept getting each other infected for too long.

Oh right, we wanted to introduce ourselves. Denis, Amelie and Oli are the #TetraPack: They are paralysed below the cervical spine and can't cough properly - the virus could kill them. Kati suffers from spina bifida and has a lung capacity of half a liter - you can imagine how useful that is in case of a severe infection. Raul and Leonard have the brittle-bone disease - same story. Laura suffers from a muscle condition for which the virus also poses the threat of death - as it is for the lungs of Jan, who is quadriplegic.

But these are all no reasons to die - we think. I hope you too. So please follow the advise and save lives - ours, but also those of many other risk groups. Persons with preconditions, or those with chronic diseases. You are also far from 60 years of age and in a risk group? Put a face to it. Post it, talk about it, and get support. Use the hashtag. Join the band. Because: Dying will have to happen later. Much later. Rock and roll, your #riskgroup.
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If any of this is true, what an eye opener. Calling the NFL and Dana White in the midst of this crisis and the stock market crashing . And you know things are truly fucked up if Tucker Carlson is flying to Mar A Lago to try to convince the President to take this seriously. In no world would Don Lemon be trying to convince Hillary Clinton to take this seriously. Jared should have nothing to do with this, go home and quarantine.

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“There’s No Boogeyman He Can Attack”: Angry at Kushner, Trump Awakens to the COVID-19 Danger
GABRIEL SHERMAN
MARCH 16, 2020 6:07 PM

Last Thursday, as the stock market was on the way to losing nearly 2,400 points—its biggest single-day plunge since the 1987 Black Monday crash—Donald Trump was worrying about the fate of the football season. NFL players aren’t scheduled to report to training camp for months, but according to a source, Trump feared that the league might preemptively announce it was following the NBA and NHL and suspend or delay operations due to the coronavirus. So Trump called NFL owners to see if any action was on the horizon. “Trump begged them not to cancel the season,” a source briefed on the call said.


Trump’s concern for the NFL’s well-being was a stark reversal given that he spent the first two years of his presidency attacking the league and its kneeling players. It reflected Trump’s magical thinking that he could manage the coronavirus pandemic by convincing people life would remain normal and sports would be played. (Last week, Trump also spoke with Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White and advised him not to cancel UFC events.) “Trump thinks this is a media problem,” a Republican close to the White House told me. Treating COVID-19 as a public-relations crisis put Trump at odds with the medical community, including the White House’s chief coronavirus adviser, Dr. Anthony Fauci. During an interview on Meet the Press this weekend, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases urged the United States to move toward a national lockdown similar to the actions taken by Italy and Spain. “I think we should really be overly aggressive and get criticized for overreacting,” Fauci said.

With the markets in free fall despite emergency action by the Fed over the weekend, Trump is waking up to the reality that’s been clear to everyone: Coronavirus poses a once-in-a-hundred-years threat to the country. “In the last 48 hours he has understood the magnitude of what’s going on,” a former West Wing official told me. As Trump processes the stakes facing the country—and his presidency—he’s also lashing out at advisers, whom he blames for the White House’s inept and flat-footed response. Sources say a principal target of his anger is Jared Kushner. “I have never heard so many people inside the White House openly discuss how pissed Trump is at Jared,” the former West Wing official said.


Sources told me Trump is regretting that Kushner swooped into the coronavirus response last week. Kushner, according to sources, encouraged Trump to treat the emergency as a P.R. problem when Fauci and others were calling for aggressive action. “This was Jared saying the world needs me to solve another problem,” a former White House official said. One source briefed on the internal conversations told me that Kushner advised Trump not to call a national emergency during his Oval Office address on March 11 because “it would tank the markets.” The markets cratered anyway, and Trump announced the national emergency on Friday. “They had to clean that up on Friday,” another former West Wing official said. Trump was also said to be angry that Kushner oversold Google’s coronavirus testing website when in fact the tech giant had a fledgling effort. Trump got slammed in the press for promoting the phantom Google product. “Jared told Trump that Google was doing an entire website that would be up in 72 hours and had 1,100 people working on it 24/7. That’s just a lie,” the source briefed on the internal conversations told me.

Reached for comment, a White House official said: “This is just another false story focused on rumors about palace intrigue instead of the actual aggressive measures President Trump has implemented to keep the American people safe and healthy.”


One reason the president’s attitude may be changing is that coronavirus showed up at his doorstep, literally: Mar-a-Lago is now a hot spot. Last weekend, Trump interacted with a Brazilian government official who tested positive for COVID-19. The appearance of coronavirus inside the president’s bubble jolted the president’s inner circle that up until that point treated the virus more like a Democratic plot. With coronavirus lurking on the property, about a hundred guests sipped cocktails by the pool at a 50th birthday party for Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, former Fox News personality Kimberly Guilfoyle. RNC chairwoman Ronna McDaniel announced after attending the party that she was self-quarantining after experiencing flu-like symptoms. Another turning point was an intervention by Guilfoyle’s former colleague Tucker Carlson. A source who attended the party told me Carlson went to Mar-a-Lago to confront Trump directly about his failure to take the virus seriously.

Now that Trump is engaged and the crisis is accelerating—the Dow dropped nearly 3,000 points on Monday—Republicans fear he is operating without a playbook at a time when one is desperately needed. On Sunday night, with no unified message coming from the government, rumors swirled online that Trump would imminently announce a national lockdown (the White House tweeted that the rumor was false). But several former White House officials told me they believed the rumor to be true. “This is not what he likes to do,” a former West Wing official said. “There’s no boogeyman he can attack.” On Monday, Trump reportedly told governors they’re on their own. “Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment—try getting it yourselves,” Trump said on a conference call, according to the New York Times.


Every hour seems to bring about a future that would have been unimaginable only days ago. Ohio might be postponing Tuesday’s primary. Would Trump try to delay the election? In another news conference on Monday afternoon, he announced federal guidelines banning gatherings of 10 or more people, auguring the rumored national lockdown. Republicans fear a lockdown could compound the crisis if Trump is cooped up in the White House with nothing to watch but the news. “What’s he going to do, watch reruns of the Masters from 2017? He’s just going to watch TV and tweet and it’s going to get worse,” the former official said.
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Interesting how independent conservatives have gone quiet now that Trump has declared this thing, ya know, not fake.
I don't really know what an independent conservative is, but my woman on my other forum isn't one. Her latest theory is that "they" have tried other things (to get rid of Trump) and it hasn't worked.
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Why are dipshits like deblasio making announcements that shelter in place may come in 48 hours? All that will do is make people leave.

Just shut the shit down.
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https://twitter.com/debi_orchard/sta...529271297?s=19

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Is this real??

I don't understand people.
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I would bet money it’s not real, given other publications are showing images of empty beaches. But who knows.
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KD got the Rona
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There’s the power of time though... the prior image shown was from over a week ago, and this one was from at least three days ago.

Yes, it’s still bad, but a lot has happened since then. Don’t discount the idea that even reputable news outlets like CBS are trying to make you click on something and get you riled up.
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Yeah I read an article in the Atlantic today predicting the US hospital system would soon look like a WW1 battlefield. I get this is serious but come on.
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I've seen the FL crowded beach pictures, supposedly it's Spring break college students in Clearwater. And they think it's funny to hashtag boomer killer on Twitter. Not a good look for those doing either.
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I don't really know what an independent conservative is, but my woman on my other forum isn't one. Her latest theory is that "they" have tried other things (to get rid of Trump) and it hasn't worked.
I, as one of the aforementioned independent conservatives, only respond when something is worth responding too.

I never said it was fake, I agreed with social distancing, just felt that” tens of thousands may die” a huge overreaction, and still do. I know, what I actually said, factual information , etc is rarely important around here.

But maybe you weren’t talking about me.

An independent conservative is not a Republican. Most Republicans aren’t nearly as conservative as they claim to be
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I never said it was fake, I agreed with social distancing, just felt that” tens of thousands may die” a huge overreaction, and still do.
I would just suggest we're looking at a very, very severe situation with hospital capacity and mainly with our senior citizens. Starting in the next few weeks.
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I, as one of the aforementioned independent conservatives, only respond when something is worth responding too.

I never said it was fake, I agreed with social distancing, just felt that” tens of thousands may die” a huge overreaction, and still do. I know, what I actually said, factual information , etc is rarely important around here.

But maybe you weren’t talking about me.

An independent conservative is not a Republican. Most Republicans aren’t nearly as conservative as they claim to be
No I wasn't talking about you, and I wasn't talking about the other U2 forum that makes fun of posters here. It's an entirely different forum.

By the time this is over, whenever that is, it is possible that tens of thousands could die. Don't know if you're talking US or worldwide, as you know it is worldwide. When you consider how many can't even get tested yet, and how many are high risk elderly and immunocompromised. Like my Dad, he's both. I care about him and so many people like him. They're people, not numbers. Or pawns for wackadoodle conspiracy theorists. Again, not talking about you. If you read further back you'll see who I was talking about.

Not to mention that Covid 19 could return with a vengeance in the fall, if it ever goes away. And a vaccine is at least a year away.
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