equality blooms with spring, pt. II

[martha]

Originally Posted by AEON

Is this a univeral law? (something that always, or almost always, happens)

It seems to be so, yes.

To answer the second question I didn't quote, I don't know, but it appears to be so.





(See how I answered the question, even a few days after it was asked?)

[diamond]

There are a lot more bigots in the real world than here, that's true.

“Showing a bit of respect for cultural values with which you disagree is not a bad thing. Don’t call people bigots and fools just because you disagree with them.’’-Barney Frank.

By definition Barney then is more tolerable than many of his supporters here.




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[BVS]

Originally Posted by diamond

By definition Barney is more tolerable than you.




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[diamond]

Originally Posted by BVS

He doesn't go around calling people who disagree with him "bigots" like you and a few others have.

So he's more tolerable and to say the least maybe a bit wiser than you?


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[AEON]

Originally Posted by martha

(See how I answered the question, even a few days after it was asked?)

Martha, I thought you would appreciate this part of a sketch from Monty Python:

Originally Posted by Monty Python

(Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
M: What?
Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!
M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!
Q: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.
M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
Q: Not at all.
M: Thank You.
(Under his breath) Stupid git!!

(Walk down the corridor)
M: (Knock)
A: Come in.
M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven't.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't
A: I did!
M: You didn't!
A: I'm telling you I did!
M: You did not!!
A: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
M: Oh, just the five minutes.
A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not.
A: Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
M: No you did not.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't.
A: Did.
M: Oh look, this isn't an argument.
A: Yes it is.
M: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
A: No it isn't.
M: It is!
A: It is not.
M: Look, you just contradicted me.
A: I did not.
M: Oh you did!!
A: No, no, no.
M: You did just then.
A: Nonsense!
M: Oh, this is futile!
A: No it isn't.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
(short pause)
A: No it isn't.
M: It is.
A: Not at all.
M: Now look.
A: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
M: What?
A: That's it. Good morning.
M: I was just getting interested.
A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
M: That was never five minutes!
A: I'm afraid it was.
M: It wasn't.
Pause
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
M: What?!
A: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
A: (Hums)
M: Look, this is ridiculous.
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
M: Oh, all right.
(pays money)
A: Thank you.
short pause
M: Well?
A: Well what?
M: That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
A: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
M: I just paid!
A: No you didn't.
M: I DID!
A: No you didn't.
M: Look, I don't want to argue about that.
A: Well, you didn't pay.
M: Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
A: No you haven't.
M: Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
M: Oh I've had enough of this.
A: No you haven't.
M: Oh Shut up.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by diamond

He doesn't go around calling people who disagree with him "bigots" like you and a few others have.

So he's more tolerable and to say the least maybe a bit wiser than you?


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First of all when I posted that you didn't have the quotes, so it didn't make sense.

And secondly, he didn't say anything about not calling out true bigots. I haven't called anyone a bigot in this thread, so I'm sure what you are trying to get at by all this "more tolerable, wiser" bullshit.

Maybe you should take a break for awhile, if you haven't noticed you haven't brought much of anything lately except for unwarranted insults. You are much more <> than you are Dave these days.

Just a suggestion

[diamond]

true bigots

ha ha in the past you labeled many people as such-that don't agree with you.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by diamond

true bigots

Do you think they exist?

[diamond]

Originally Posted by BVS

Do you think they exist?

I try not to judge people and label people, but only understand from what paradigm they're dealing from-like Barney Frank.

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[BVS]

Originally Posted by diamond

I try not to judge people and label people, but only understand from what paradigm they're dealing from-like Barney Frank.

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Just a few examples of your non-judgement and not labeling people:

to say the least maybe a bit wiser than you

in the real world, people would eat you alive.

Not after generations of brain washed complicity

That would make you coward

something you wouldn't comprehend nor appreciate.

suggestions brought to you by a very normal and very Gay male.

And this was just from the last week of FYM postings.

[diamond]

and I condemned no one when putting all of those quotes in context.



I should mention you did break a forum rules by lifting quotes from other threads and pasting them in this thread-but rules are made to be broken and redefined right?

And Barney Frank seems to be a bit is wiser than you, you need to get over that one.


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[BVS]

Judging and labeling(which is what you said) doesn't = "condemn".

Wisdom...

[phillyfan26]

AEON, while I disagree strongly with your position and think much of your logic doesn't hold up, I do appreciate the general politeness with which your present them and thought you seem to put into them.

Diamond, on the other hand, you're just trying to piss people off by being condescending. Can you try to participate in the discussion by contributing to it instead of trying to sidetrack it with things like "Barney Frank," "I'm being called a bigot," and "buzzwords"?

[diamond]

[phillyfan26]

Awww. That makes it better.

Throw your diamonds in the sky if you feel the vibe!

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by diamond

I try not to judge people and label people

priceless!

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by diamond

[diamond]

[WCF]

So uh, is there a discussion going on in this thread or are we all just going to keep belittling each other for a couple more pages?

[martha]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Originally Posted by WCF

So uh, is there a discussion going on in this thread or are we all just going to keep belittling each other for a couple more pages?

If this is belittling, can I have some more?