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Old 10-19-2016, 12:26 PM   #861
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I am talking about the conservatives in FYM. Ten years ago, there was as close to a balanced forum as I have ever seen. Not anymore.


Nationally, if the Wikileaks emails are to be believed, DEMS encouraged the news outlets to pump up Trump and Carson in the primaries. Talk about "Russia" interfering with the election.....amazing how 88% of the press political donations went to the Clinton campaign and $14,000 to Trump. So when I see memos encouraging the press to pump up Trump, I no longer wonder how he got there, she wanted him there.
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIV: May This Entertainment Never End

10 years ago we also had virulent homophobes posting here.
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You know it's a Dodgers logo. Has to be.

I won't be watching live for the reverse reason.
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10 years ago we also had virulent homophobes posting here.
If by this statement you mean evangelicals who for the most part, never expressed anything other than their opinions about various topics, then I guess so..... I would not call that homophobic.

I think the only reason I lasted as long as I did in here was because I support gay marriage, yet remain conservative on many issues. I would submit that most who had the opposing view, were not assholes to anyone who was gay. Those that were were run out of dodge by both sides of the fence.

Something changed.....Still have not found a place that I enjoyed more than the debating that used to happen in here.
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Yeah, I don't remember FYM ever being balanced. Certainly there were more conservative posters back then, but it was always a majority liberal forum in my memory. I remember Sting routinely derogatorily calling us 'Little San Francisco'.

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Nationally, if the Wikileaks emails are to be believed, DEMS encouraged the news outlets to pump up Trump and Carson in the primaries. Talk about "Russia" interfering with the election.....amazing how 88% of the press political donations went to the Clinton campaign and $14,000 to Trump. So when I see memos encouraging the press to pump up Trump, I no longer wonder how he got there, she wanted him there.
I think it's safe to assume that at the beginning of every presidential process, the frontrunner has preferred general election opponents. Like if you won the NFC championship game, were in the superbowl, and were watching the AFC championship game to see who you'd be playing, you'd have a preference.

A candidate can say to the press, 'hey it would help me if you covered this person', but that doesn't mean the press has to do it. Ultimately it's on the press to decide how much integrity they are or aren't going to operate with.
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If by this statement you mean evangelicals who for the most part, never expressed anything other than their opinions about various topics, then I guess so..... I would not call that homophobic.
I should clarify. There were some people who had issues with homosexuality but tried to be respectful in their discussions. There were quite a few who made no such attempts and equated homosexuals with rapists, child predators, and people who engaged in bestiality and incest, among other things. They may have been run out eventually, but several of them hung around for a long time.



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Something changed.....Still have not found a place that I enjoyed more than the debating that used to happen in here.

Lots of people moved on naturally, particularly yolland, who I have no problem admitting was better at handling forum issues than I am.
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You know it's a Dodgers logo. Has to be.

I won't be watching live for the reverse reason.
You know it!

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Going today, and very likely going tomorrow as well. If the ship is going to sink again, at least I can be there with them for it this time.
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I am extremely disappointed with this whole election. It is a disgrace that we no longer have a media that presents the news in an unbiased manner. It is a disgrace that Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. It is a disgrace that Hillary is the Democratic nominee. It is disappointing that I have more accurate news from #Anonymous than from our own media. It is a disgrace that in a year with all of the issues - immigration, common core, police and black lives in peril, debt, poverty, the insanely high prices of college, individual debt, housing affordability........... This is what we are left with ...... TOPICS THAT GIVE THE MEDIA RATINGS...... nothing more........ I am thankful to be on the down slope of my life, because this place is going straight down the drain like the Democratic Mobile dumped it yesterday.

AS for FYM..... how many people with conservative ideas left..... and why? Maybe the forum is reflective of society, nobody really enjoys the debate and everyone believes they have the answer so why engage. Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and Newt Gignrich were successful because despite their differences, they were able to find common ground. Maybe its more fun to hang with people who are of like mind?

Anyway - I am voting Gary Johnson. I don't agree with everything he stands for, but he does seem to have some integrity. Bill Weld was a good Republican in Massachusetts, but the national party ran him out for not being conservative enough. Anyways.....back into my box.
You and I have not crossed paths but I know from conversations with others here that you are a respected member of the forum from way back. I mean you no ill will.

That said, Gary Johnson is a fucking moron who has zero intellectual curiosity and horrendous understanding of practically any of the responsibilities of the Oval Office, and voting for him is nearly as reckless and irresponsible as voting for Donald Trump.
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Deeeeeeebate!


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Really boring.

Turns out nobody cares about the issues.
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIV: May This Entertainment Never End

"We have some bad hombres here" - Donald Trump on immigration.


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Is he saying bigly??
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I'll watch the highlights later on.
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Trump is not sniffing and is surprisingly somewhat coherent. Hillary has to look down at her notes for every question, but is giving better answers.
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So Trump won't promise to respect the outcome.
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I wish Hillary had asked the moderator to translate whatever gibberish Trump just answered on Syria. It just doesn't make sense.
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