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Old 10-14-2008, 02:11 PM   #441
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Purpleoscar called U2 socialist, so it must be true.
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Nor did I ever claim it was. However, when you say this:



Then I think pointing out the makeup of this forum is more than appropriate.
Did it ever occur to you that the makeup of the forum is impacted by how the political majority treat and debate those from the opposite side of the fence? We have people in here that go out of their way to characterize or indirectly mock other people in the forum because of their views. That type of behavior definitely will reduce the number of people from the otherside of the political fence who would be willing to come in and discuss issues.

Its rather difficult to have a debate on certain political issues if there is no one from the otherside of the political spectrum.
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Purpleoscar called U2 socialist, so it must be true.
$300,000,000 dollars! U2's profit from just the sale of tickets on the Vertigo Tour. By the way, the profit was not divided equally among the band and U2's organization. Thats what the 5 members of the band walked away with just from the sale of tickets on that tour alone.

They just recently moved much of the bands finances into the Netherlands to avoid paying taxes on it.
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$300,000,000 dollars! U2's profit from just the sale of tickets on the Vertigo Tour. By the way, the profit was not divided equally among the band and U2's organization. Thats what the 5 members of the band walked away with just from the sale of tickets on that tour alone.

They just recently moved much of the bands finances into the Netherlands to avoid paying taxes on it.
So only Conservatives are allowed to profit from their work...?

From my understanding, they moved their business interests to The Netherlands, the income they generate internationally. They still pay personal income taxes in Ireland.
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Sting, you conveniently overlook the fact that 1/4 of U2 - Adam - is not religious at all.
I know that has been said in the past, but it does not seem to have ever really influenced the bands writing. In addition, Adam claimed that GOD was walking through the room on the Elevation Tour. So, these days, who really knows what Adam believes.


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And you overlook the fact that U2's brand of religion is a much more open-minded, inclusive, and non-judgemental than much of the American brand of Christianity. They've never passed judgement on anyone. They spent an entire decade of their existence putting out music that questioned faith rather than celebrated it. Their brand of Christianity is hardly the same as the American right-wing brand.
I think that your beliefs about American Christianity and American Christians are rather narrow, and mistaken. I would not describe the 90s as a time that U2 turned on Christianity. Just because a couple of songs seem to question faith does not mean that spent an entire decade questioning faith.

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Furthermore, you overlook the fact that when Bono was meeting with Bush those few times between 2002 and 2005, that it was reported that it made his bandmates, Edge in particular, very uncomfortable because he(Edge) HATED Bush.
Do you have a qoute of Edge saying that he "hated" Bush and even if he did, is that alone proof that someone is a liberal? In addition, you just said above that U2 never passed judgement on anyone. Open minded, inclusive, non-judgemental.
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Sting brought it up. .
No I didn't. The first person to bring "U2's beliefs" into the thread was Diemen.

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Considering we're on a board for a band that espouses generally liberal beliefs itself, yes, maybe it's not an accident.
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$300,000,000 dollars! U2's profit from just the sale of tickets on the Vertigo Tour. By the way, the profit was not divided equally among the band and U2's organization. Thats what the 5 members of the band walked away with just from the sale of tickets on that tour alone.

They just recently moved much of the bands finances into the Netherlands to avoid paying taxes on it.
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$300,000,000 dollars! U2's profit from just the sale of tickets on the Vertigo Tour. By the way, the profit was not divided equally among the band and U2's organization. Thats what the 5 members of the band walked away with just from the sale of tickets on that tour alone.

They just recently moved much of the bands finances into the Netherlands to avoid paying taxes on it.
Where did you get 300M PROFIT from ? Seems awfully high. Sure it's not Gross ?
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Where did you get 300M PROFIT from ? Seems awfully high. Sure it's not Gross ?

GROSS was nearly $400 million dollars, actually $389 million to be exact. Stadium show all expenses, promotion, set up cost about $1.2 million per show, the arena's were $400,000. So with 53 stadium shows and 78 arena shows, the cost of the tour is just under $100 million dollars. Plus, were not even talking about the profits from merchandise, albums sales, songs played on the radio, etc.
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GROSS was nearly $400 million dollars, actually $389 million to be exact. Stadium show all expenses, promotion, set up cost about $1.2 million per show, the arena's were $400,000. So with 53 stadium shows and 78 arena shows, the cost of the tour is just under $100 million dollars. Plus, were not even talking about the profits from merchandise, albums sales, songs played on the radio, etc.
Where did you get the info ? Just curious.
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I find it funny that diamond can say that his values are "peace, love, and honesty" and then turn around and say he's voting for McCain. Because McCain isn't really for any of those things, especially not the last one.
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it seems that there's a thread for those who want to assert that U2 are conservatives.
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U2 po... sorry, US politics have become very interesting just recently here.
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Where did you get the info ? Just curious.
The GROSS info comes from Billboard magazine's boxscore column. Each week, Amusement Business reports the top grossing shows around the world in Billboards Boxcore column. Also, Billboards year end reports and articles on the concert industry have reported the total gross figure.

The Cost info for the Vertigo Tour came from the Irish Times paper the week they played Croke Park back in 2005. There is also specific cost info for shows on ZOO TV and POPMART in Carter Alan's book "Outside Is America".

Contrary to popular belief in some circles, U2's POPMART tour grossed $171 million dollars and the band walked away with a $100 million dollar profit from that tour.
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What has Obama done that could POSSIBLY be Hague worthy?
This is the dumbest thread detour yet and that's saying something. Christ on a bicycle!
or Buddha on a bull!





really........


maybe SB wants to get a rise out of us libs/progressives?
tho prob he's totally serious.


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Oh and just to clarify, it's neither.



Considering that if ( and people have done this ) cut out all the references to Jesus's message of "helping the poor" The New Testament --
you end up with a "Swiss Chess" Holy Publication!!!

but most Republicans/Conservatives/ and Conservative Democrats < I won't forget them, either> try to wiggle their way out of that one!

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Ah, the good ol' Virginia GOP. They're going to get a rude awakening on my birthday...November 5th. When the rest of the country has moved on they'll be left in the dust wondering what happened.
I SSOOooooooo HOPE SO U2dem!!!

I'm thrilled to be acquainted with someone who's actually experiencing this possible shift in Virginia politics from the liberal/progressive side of the Polity!!!
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S Lila64!


I actually come here b/c due to various circumstances i can't easily get in touch w several friends who I can discuss progressive politics with--

.....and I'mm soooo both and partly quietly confident that Obama & Biden WILL BE the Next President & Vice-President of our USA that I need a place to jump in and post once in a while, and not able to read every post b/c of time spent on other threads (tho I'm actually spending more time here in FYM right now ) & art-making happy duties* on these 'puters!


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*is a duty a duty IF you're HAPPY ABOUT DOING IT? ; )


ANYway I help blow off steam & angst here!
tho sometimes I aaarrrggg being here, too!

I do actually have a serious political/social topic to throw in on a new thread, BUT I have to type it up early, and I'm still working out the least verbage knowing that I DO go one at times !

Hopefully by the end of this geeral M-F workday week.
I've worked also as a freelancer, so I KNOW what a various hours/days work week <and weekends> looks like, too!
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