Week 24

[edge3]

yes very good!The number 25 in global chart FALL OUT BOY solds 70,308 in Us only.....i think near 75k for HTDAAB is not a miracle...

Yes, It is very good that Bomb has gone up 3 spots & back into top 20 at Mediatraffic (MT) - BUT I think it would have sold about 54K. The actual MT album chart is based on points and Bomb probably got 75,000 POINTS for this week. This is because it probably returned to various worldwide charts not because it SOLD 75K. In fact it seems Bomb actually decreased in SALES from last week as there's no blue triangle next to Bomb on MT chart. I hope I'm wrong (& you're right) but that's what MT told me last week.

Here are the last few weeks of Bomb at MT (w.21 - w.23 were given to me by MT last week, w.24 - w.25 are my estimates) :

7224M + 64K (w.21) + 63K (w.22) + 60K (w.23) = 7411M + 55K (w.24) + 54K (w.25) = 7520M

 

[edge3]

Re: I think they have to consider it...

Ah, nevermind about the per capita sales. The population in Argentina is 37M, and it's 59M in the UK. I do find these statistics interesting, though, so I'll list the populations of some of the major countries where we should know U2 sales for HTDAAB, or perhaps all albums, and see just where U2 is the most popular, besides Ireland, or some trends over time, etc. Maybe edge3 can help me out here?

Well, I'll do my best : here's the 25 countries that I know of so far,
with their population size as at Mid 2004 :

Key :
Country - Population - Sales of HTDAAB in that country

Australia - 19,913,144 - 250K
Austria - 8,174,762 - 50K
Belgium - 10,348,276 - 80K
Canada - 32,507,874 - 400K
Czech Republic - 10,246,178 - 20K
Denmark - 5,413,392 - 40K
Finland - 5,214,512 - 30K
France - 60,424,213 - 355K
Germany - 82,424,609 - 400K
Greece - 10,647,529 - 25K
Hungary - 10,032,375 - 10K
Ireland - 3,969,558 - 110K
Italy - 58,057,477 - 425K
Japan - 127,333,002 - 245K
Netherlands - 16,318,199 - 150K
New Zealand - 3,993,817 - 45K
Norway - 4,574,560 - 55K
Poland - 38,626,349 - 100K
Portugal - 10,524,145 - 130K
Slovenia - 2,011,473 - 9K
Spain - 40,280,780 - 200K
Sweden - 8,986,400 - 60K
Switzerland - 7,450,867 - 80K
United Kingdom - 60,270,708 - 1070000
United States - 293,027,571 - 2705000
Total sales of HTDAAB in these 25 countries, so far - 7044M

Now, I've heard Paul M. say that U2 operates in 100 markets/countries worldwide - but it must be very difficult to know what this exact figure is. So here's another 169 countries (every country in the world?) with their population size, from the same source :

Afghanistan 28,513,677
Albania 3,544,808
Algeria 32,129,324
Andorra 69,865
Angola 10,978,552
Antigua and Barbuda 68,320
Argentina 39,144,753
Armenia 2,991,360
Azerbaijan 7,868,385
Bahamas 299,697
Bahrain 677,886
Bangladesh 141,340,476
Barbados 278,289
Belarus 10,310,520
Belize 272,945
Benin 7,250,033
Bhutan 2,185,569
Bolivia 8,724,156
Bosnia and Herzegovina 4,007,608
Botswana 1,561,973
Brazil 184,101,109
Brunei 365,251
Bulgaria 7,517,973
Burkina 13,574,820
Burundi 6,231,221
Cambodia 13,363,421
Cameroon 16,063,678
Cape Verde 415,294
Central African Republic 3,742,482
Chad 9,538,544
Chile 15,823,957
China 1,298,847,624
Colombia 42,310,775
Comoros 651,901
Congo, Republic of the 2,998,040
Congo, Democratic Republic of the (formerly Zaire) 58,317,930
Costa Rica 3,956,507
Côte d'Ivoire 17,327,724
Croatia 4,496,869
Cuba 11,308,764
Cyprus 775,927
Djibouti 466,900
Dominica 69,278
Dominican Republic 8,833,634
East Timor 1,019,252
Ecuador 13,212,742
Egypt 76,117,421
El Salvador 6,587,541
Equatorial Guinea 523,051
Eritrea 4,447,307
Estonia 1,341,664
Ethiopia 67,851,281
Fiji 880,874
Gabon Libreville 267,667 1,355,246
Gambia 1,546,848
Georgia 4,693,892
Ghana 20,757,032
Grenada 89,357
Guatemala 14,280,596
Guinea 9,246,462
Guinea-Bissau 1,388,363
Guyana 705,803
Haiti 7,656,166
Honduras 6,823,568
Iceland 293,966
India 1,065,070,607
Indonesia 238,452,952
Iran 67,503,205
Iraq 25,374,691
Israel 6,199,008
Jamaica 2,713,130
Jordan 5,611,202
Kazakhstan 15,143,704
Kenya 32,021,856
Kiribati 100,798
Korea, North 22,697,553
Korea, South 48,598,175
Kuwait 2,257,549
Kyrgyzstan 5,081,429
Laos 6,068,117
Latvia 2,306,306
Lebanon 3,777,218
Lesotho 1,865,040
Liberia 3,390,635
Libya 5,631,585
Liechtenstein 33,436
Lithuania 3,607,899
Luxembourg 462,690
Macedonia 2,071,210
Madagascar 17,501,871
Malawi 11,906,855
Malaysia 23,522,482
Maldives 339,330
Mali 11,956,788
Malta 396,851
Marshall Islands 57,738
Mauritania 2,998,563
Mauritius 1,220,481
Mexico 104,959,594
Micronesia, Federated States of 108,155
Moldova 4,446,455
Monaco 32,270
Mongolia 2,751,314
Morocco 32,209,101
Mozambique 18,811,731
Myanmar (Burma) 42,720,196
Namibia 1,954,033
Nauru 12,809
Nepal 27,070,666
Nicaragua 5,359,759
Niger 11,360,538
Nigeria 137,253,133
Oman 2,903,165
Pakistan 159,196,336
Palau 20,016
Panama 3,000,463
Papua New Guinea 5,420,280
Paraguay 6,191,368
Peru 27,544,305
Philippines 86,241,697
Qatar 840,290
Romania 22,355,551
Russia 143,782,338
Rwanda 7,954,013
Saint Kitts and Nevis 38,836
Saint Lucia 164,213
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 117,193
Samoa 177,714
San Marino 28,503
São Tomé and Príncipe 181,565
Saudi Arabia 25,795,938
Senegal 10,852,147
Serbia and Montenegro 10,825,900
Seychelles 80,832
Sierra Leone 5,883,889
Singapore 4,353,893
Slovakia 5,423,567
Solomon Islands 523,617
Somalia 8,304,601
South Africa 42,718,530
Sri Lanka 19,905,165
Sudan 39,148,162
Suriname 436,935
Swaziland 1,169,241
Syria 18,016,874
Taiwan 22,749,838
Tajikistan 7,011,556
Tanzania 36,588,225
Thailand 64,865,523
Togo 5,556,812
Tonga 110,237
Trinidad and Tobago 1,096,585
Tunisia 9,974,722
Turkey 68,893,918
Turkmenistan 4,863,169
Tuvalu 11,468
Uganda 26,404,543
Ukraine 47,732,079
United Arab Emirates 2,523,915
Uruguay 3,399,237
Uzbekistan 26,410,416
Vanuatu 202,609
Vatican City 911
Venezuela 25,017,387
Vietnam 82,689,518
Western Sahara 267,405
Yemen 20,024,867
Zambia 10,462,436
Zimbabwe 12,671,860

So, this means that HTDAAB has 'officially' sold about another 1M in these 169 countries (or an average of 5917 copies in each) if we agree with the current Mediatraffic figure of about 7520M, which covers 'nearly 95%' of worldwide album sales - that's 7044M + 1M = 8044M (est.) 'officially' sold worldwide.

However, as you, beLIEve, & others, have already mentioned I would think that HTDAAB has 'unofficially' sold another 1-2M due to illegal sales & unreported sales data - so that's 8044M + 1-2M = 9-10M (est.) 'unofficially' sold in these 194 countries.

 

[edge3]

Re: I think they have to consider it...

....also :

Ah, nevermind about the per capita sales. The population in Argentina is 37M, and it's 59M in the UK. I do find these statistics interesting, though, so I'll list the populations of some of the major countries where we should know U2 sales for HTDAAB, or perhaps all albums, and see just where U2 is the most popular, besides Ireland, or some trends over time, etc. Maybe edge3 can help me out here?

Based on the chart positions of HTDAAB U2 are arguably more popular in Belgium (7 wks at #1, 22 wks in top 10, ), Holland (4 wks at #1, 18 wks in top 10) & maybe a few other countries (like Italy, Chile etc). I'm still amazed that Bomb has maybe 'only' sold about 80K in Belgium - that's 50K less than Portugal which has the same size population, 30K less than Ireland which has less than half the population of Belgium & the equivalent of 465K in UK!!

In fact, with the same chart positions in UK as Belgium HTDAAB would have sold about 1.5M in UK by now!!

 

[roy keane]

Speaking of other countries,I am new here and I am from Serbia and Montenegro.What I can tell about sales in my country is that by decembar 31 2004 HTDAAB sold 3500 copies.This is a very weak market because of the illegal sales and therefor a very good result for U2 to sell probably 5000 original copies by now.

 

[fitz]

Danmark #27 (#19) and
Sometimes #17 (#14)

 

[fitz]

Greece back to reality #23 (#9) and the Best of 90-00 on #48

Sometimes #24 (#25)

 

[edge3]

Speaking of other countries,I am new here and I am from Serbia and Montenegro.What I can tell about sales in my country is that by decembar 31 2004 HTDAAB sold 3500 copies.This is a very weak market because of the illegal sales and therefor a very good result for U2 to sell probably 5000 original copies by now.

Hi! Welcome to the forum & thanks for this info : As I calculated, above, 5000 'official' copies is just below average for these other 169 countries, although with a population of almost 11M I did think that the figure would be higher for your country - more like 20-30K at least. Also, as a comparison, Slovenia has a population of only 2M yet HTDAAB has sold 9K there. But I honestly don't know that much about album sales in Serbia & Montenegro. So, I guess we can now take the 'official' sales total of HTDAAB to 7049M (7044M + 5K).

BTW - Am I correct in thinking that HTDAAB has sold maybe 50-100K in Russia?

 

[fitz]

Here the first dates of week 25:

Belgium #17 (#13)
Ireland #24 (#30)

 

[edge3]

Here the first dates of week 25:

Belgium #17 (#13)
Ireland #24 (#30)

Thanks fitz - I'll start a week 25 thread.

 

[roy keane]

Just to ad for a Serbia and Russia sales.Serbia has a big problem with piracy and according to stattistics only 7-10% music albums are legaly bought.As for Russia,50K is minimum.

 

[edge3]

Just to ad for a Serbia and Russia sales.Serbia has a big problem with piracy and according to stattistics only 7-10% music albums are legaly bought.As for Russia,50K is minimum.

Thanks again for this info - I guess we can now say at least 7100M 'official' sales of HTDAAB from 27 countries.

PS - Any idea on a maximum figure for Russia?

 

[fitz]

Thanks fitz - I'll start a week 25 thread.

Thanks edge3, i can't open a new thread!