2010-2011 NBA Thread Take 2 - Page 14

Imperor · 03-08-2011, 03:09 PM

To be fair, Headache, the kid is watching a team that has four players doing nothing off the ball. Give him a break.

Headache in a Suitcase · 03-08-2011, 03:12 PM

That's like saying that you don't pay attention to, know about nor care about 80% of the game, and then saying that that doesn't mean you don't know the game.

You enjoy it... that's great. I enjoy playoff and olympic hockey. I don't assume to know shit about it other than the absolute basics. I'm getting into soccer, trying to learn the rules and all, but don't pretend to think I know what the hell is going on all over the field.

Headache in a Suitcase · 03-08-2011, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imperor

To be fair, Headache, the kid is watching a team that has four players doing nothing off the ball. Give him a break.

True enough

PhilsFan · 03-08-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Just because I dont enjoy watching off the ball doesn't mean I don't know what's going on.

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Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

No, it pretty much does.

Yeah, it's sort of like saying you never watch the blocking and route running in football.

Headache in a Suitcase · 03-08-2011, 03:30 PM

Seriously... I don't pretend to know football or baseball as much as someone who devotes their entire life to those sports, but as a fan I certainly try to pick up on the various nuances of each sport.

There are actually many similarities between defensive football concepts and defensive basketball concepts.

LuckyNumber7 · 03-08-2011, 05:45 PM

I've learned enough basketball from playing it on a regular basis. I'm not an expert, but I know what goes on away from the ball.

LuckyNumber7 · 03-08-2011, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

Seriously... I don't pretend to know football or baseball as much as someone who devotes their entire life to those sports, but as a fan I certainly try to pick up on the various nuances of each sport.

There are actually many similarities between defensive football concepts and defensive basketball concepts.

There's also many similarities between hockey and basketball defensive concepts. And obviously many differences as well.

Got Philk? · 03-08-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I've learned enough basketball from playing it on a regular basis. I'm not an expert, but I know what goes on away from the ball.

Are you 6'3" and 250 pounds? I am. Most of my contact happens when I'm away from the ball. Then...when I get the ball, even more significant contact happens as I back into the guy and he pushes me back...when I shoot, I almost always get hit somewhere on my body.

I set screens for my teammates more than anything...which means a lot of guys run in to me.

I box out for every rebound...my favorite is when I block out 2 guys, because a teammate doesn't get his. That is fun.

Pretty much, i'm that annoying undersized post player who bugs the shit out of people but helps a team win.

I know a lot of guys though who do not play this way. That would be less contact, I would assume.

Headache in a Suitcase · 03-08-2011, 08:48 PM

undersized post players unite

Now if you excuse me I have to go put some bacitracin on the cuts on my arm I got from today's round of low contact calisthenics.

gump · 03-08-2011, 08:53 PM

Meanwhile, let's watch Portland beat the ever static Heat.

Imperor · 03-08-2011, 08:56 PM

Getcha Kleenex ready.

gump · 03-08-2011, 09:02 PM

Let's take a minute to ponder over this:

Cleveland Cavaliers 2009-2010 record: 61-21
Miami Heat 2010-2011 record: 43-21

Headache in a Suitcase · 03-08-2011, 09:02 PM

Reporter asks heat players if they'll ever win again. Lebron and wade respond "maybe... we'll see."

Imperor · 03-08-2011, 09:06 PM

Stop hating, Gump. If they win 30 of these last 18 games, they're still going to hit 73 W's like so many predicted before the season. Man, will your face be red when that happens.

LuckyNumber7 · 03-08-2011, 10:03 PM

Chris Bosh is officially the biggest pussy in the league. He never used to play this way in Toronto. Now he's just good for nothing with a bunch of off target jump shots.

gump · 03-08-2011, 10:04 PM

I wonder what Zack Greinke thinks of the argument that basketball is not a contact sport.

Headache in a Suitcase · 03-09-2011, 05:57 AM

Its lebron and wade... not bosh. Bosh is a complimentary player, and a big at that. He can't create his own shots. He needs someone else to get him looks in the right position to score. In that miami "offense" every one just stands around and watches lebron and diane dribble the shit out of the ball. That leads to stagnation. The guys off the ball never get any shots in any sort of rhythm, which is vital to shot making. Not bulling your way to the rim because you're stronger and more athletic than everyone else, actual shot making.

The heat, much llike the cavs before them, have no sense of synergy whatsoever. Follow the common denominator and you'll have your answer.

How is it that the knicks and magic can get major overhauls, the bulls can play long stretches of time missing key players to injury... yet all have "clicked" offensively, yet the fancy shmansy miami shmeat want us to believe that it still "takes time" and they're "figuring things out."

Please... it's lebron. If he can put his giant fuck ego aside and learn that there's a whole game going on off the ball that he's yet to even discover, then the whole league is in deep trouble. Until that point, this is what you'll get. Dominate the weak on sheer talent, shit the bed against teams that are actually good.

Jordan only became jordan when he gave in to phil jackson and started to trust in his teammates more.

The book is out on miami. Collapse on penetration, hard close outs on stand still shooters. Lebron and diane will look to drive on kick outs more than anything, so be under control against them. Bosh wanders aimlessly cause he has no role in this offense, but he can make the mid range so make him put it on the floor. Rotate hard, step in and take charges on penetration. Try not to giggle when lebron attempts to post up.

CTU2fan · 03-09-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

Try not to giggle when lebron attempts to post up.

The thing is, he should be able to post up against any 3 guarding him, and beat any 4 who tries off the dribble (or make the pass to Bosh since it's probably his man guarding Lebron). But he never does it...I'm not sure if he can't, or doesn't want to, or isn't willing to work on some post moves.

I know I'm about 1000x more comfortable with the Celtics facing the Heat in the ECF vs. facing the Bulls. Between the Lebron stuff and Wade likely pulling 3 hammies chasing Ray Allen around, I like that matchup for Boston.

BoMac · 03-09-2011, 01:02 PM

Report: Bosh uncomfortable with role in Miami's offence

Hewson · 03-09-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

Report: Bosh uncomfortable with role in Miami's offence

What did the dude expect when signing on with 2 of the biggest huns in NBA history?

03-08-2011, 03:09 PM	#261
Imperor Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 9,045 Local Time: 10:45 PM	To be fair, Headache, the kid is watching a team that has four players doing nothing off the ball. Give him a break. __________________

03-08-2011, 03:12 PM	#262
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,607 Local Time: 12:45 AM	That's like saying that you don't pay attention to, know about nor care about 80% of the game, and then saying that that doesn't mean you don't know the game. You enjoy it... that's great. I enjoy playoff and olympic hockey. I don't assume to know shit about it other than the absolute basics. I'm getting into soccer, trying to learn the rules and all, but don't pretend to think I know what the hell is going on all over the field. __________________

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03-08-2011, 03:30 PM	#265
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,607 Local Time: 12:45 AM	Seriously... I don't pretend to know football or baseball as much as someone who devotes their entire life to those sports, but as a fan I certainly try to pick up on the various nuances of each sport. There are actually many similarities between defensive football concepts and defensive basketball concepts.

03-08-2011, 05:45 PM	#266
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 18,914 Local Time: 12:45 AM	I've learned enough basketball from playing it on a regular basis. I'm not an expert, but I know what goes on away from the ball.

03-08-2011, 08:48 PM	#269
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,607 Local Time: 12:45 AM	undersized post players unite Now if you excuse me I have to go put some bacitracin on the cuts on my arm I got from today's round of low contact calisthenics.

03-08-2011, 08:53 PM	#270
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,049 Local Time: 12:45 AM	Meanwhile, let's watch Portland beat the ever static Heat.

03-08-2011, 08:56 PM	#271
Imperor Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 9,045 Local Time: 10:45 PM	Getcha Kleenex ready.

03-08-2011, 09:02 PM	#272
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,049 Local Time: 12:45 AM	Let's take a minute to ponder over this: Cleveland Cavaliers 2009-2010 record: 61-21 Miami Heat 2010-2011 record: 43-21

03-08-2011, 09:02 PM	#273
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,607 Local Time: 12:45 AM	Reporter asks heat players if they'll ever win again. Lebron and wade respond "maybe... we'll see."

03-08-2011, 09:06 PM	#274
Imperor Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 9,045 Local Time: 10:45 PM	Stop hating, Gump. If they win 30 of these last 18 games, they're still going to hit 73 W's like so many predicted before the season. Man, will your face be red when that happens.

03-08-2011, 10:03 PM	#275
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 18,914 Local Time: 12:45 AM	Chris Bosh is officially the biggest pussy in the league. He never used to play this way in Toronto. Now he's just good for nothing with a bunch of off target jump shots.

03-08-2011, 10:04 PM	#276
gump ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 10,049 Local Time: 12:45 AM	I wonder what Zack Greinke thinks of the argument that basketball is not a contact sport.

03-09-2011, 05:57 AM	#277
Headache in a Suitcase Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: This forum just ain't what it was pre-2007 but I still post here Posts: 69,607 Local Time: 12:45 AM	Its lebron and wade... not bosh. Bosh is a complimentary player, and a big at that. He can't create his own shots. He needs someone else to get him looks in the right position to score. In that miami "offense" every one just stands around and watches lebron and diane dribble the shit out of the ball. That leads to stagnation. The guys off the ball never get any shots in any sort of rhythm, which is vital to shot making. Not bulling your way to the rim because you're stronger and more athletic than everyone else, actual shot making. The heat, much llike the cavs before them, have no sense of synergy whatsoever. Follow the common denominator and you'll have your answer. How is it that the knicks and magic can get major overhauls, the bulls can play long stretches of time missing key players to injury... yet all have "clicked" offensively, yet the fancy shmansy miami shmeat want us to believe that it still "takes time" and they're "figuring things out." Please... it's lebron. If he can put his giant fuck ego aside and learn that there's a whole game going on off the ball that he's yet to even discover, then the whole league is in deep trouble. Until that point, this is what you'll get. Dominate the weak on sheer talent, shit the bed against teams that are actually good. Jordan only became jordan when he gave in to phil jackson and started to trust in his teammates more. The book is out on miami. Collapse on penetration, hard close outs on stand still shooters. Lebron and diane will look to drive on kick outs more than anything, so be under control against them. Bosh wanders aimlessly cause he has no role in this offense, but he can make the mid range so make him put it on the floor. Rotate hard, step in and take charges on penetration. Try not to giggle when lebron attempts to post up.