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Old 06-01-2013, 09:44 PM   #161
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I was all set to write an insanely long and sappy post about The National and the album and some bullshit about my life but am opting to spare everyone and just say that I'm still listening to this album and still loving it.
I really wish you would. I love reading those posts
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:06 AM   #162
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For me this is the weakest album of theirs lyrically, debut excepted.
I still have not listened to the debut.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:32 AM   #163
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I think it is a much stronger album, both lyrically and musically, than High Violet.

And yes, Pink Rabbits is a beautiful song. The sequencing and the atmosphere created from it is so effortless in those final four or five tracks.
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I still like high violet the best. But trouble will find me is good and I've listened to it a bunch.
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Old 06-02-2013, 06:08 AM   #165
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I think it is a much stronger album, both lyrically and musically, than High Violet.
I agree. I think the album flows beautifully and I like that the lyrics are a bit more focused than they were on the older albums. Matt did the word salad thing more on Alligator and Sad Songs and it made for lots of awesome quotes, but I think as entire pieces, most of the stories on this album really come together. High Violet was a transition of sorts into less abstract lyricism but the writing feels more colorful and personal to me on this one (and yes, there are plenty of standout lines too). All of the albums have good lyrics, but this one is up there for me.

Everyone picks out the "I do not light it up/fuck" line from Demons as a highlight, but the whole song really resonates with me. It almost hits too close to home. And when you realize that I Should Live in Salt is basically an apology from Matt to his brother for joining a band and having a life apart from him, it really cuts deep.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:18 AM   #166
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Everyone picks out the "I do not light it up/fuck" line from Demons as a highlight, but the whole song really resonates with me. It almost hits too close to home.
This is really the crux of strong lyrics, isn't it: how much something resonates or sticks with you? I can't even count how many lyrics from Trouble float around in my head everyday. I think Alligator probably is Matt's best lyrical effort in terms of those endlessly quotable lines, but Trouble is right up there as well.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:56 AM   #167
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For some reason, this bit resonates with me the most...

All the L.A. women
Fall asleep while swimming
I got paid to fish 'em out
And then one day I lost the job

And I cried a little
I got fried a little
Then she laid her eyes on mine
And she said, "Babe, you're better off"

It doesn't really mirror my life at all, but there is something universal about the emotions involved.
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Also, concerning Pink Rabbits, the line about Bona Drag brings two of my absolute favorite artists together. I was quite happy when I first noticed it.
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:26 PM   #169
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I think I've pinpointed my problem with alligator. It starts out with such a song trio of songs, a stretch of tunes that is up there as one of my favorite things they've done. Then you have looking for astronauts. And that song sucks. And then daughters and baby we'll be done become casualties as I skip (im already skippibg things, and i like friend of mine a lot so why dont i just skip to that) them to get to friend of mine, and I wind up with this giant hole that really breaks up the flow of the album.
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You know you had a permanent piece of my medium-sized American heart.

How I love that line. Otherwise, though, I think Astronauts would be the one song Alligator could stand to lose. For Trouble, I would say that song is Heavenfaced.
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Yeah, heaven faced was ok for about two listens. I still am not sold on pink rabbits, though. Hard to find and humiliation aren't as dull as I originally thought.
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Most of their albums for me have this problem with flow (except Boxer). Just when it feels like we're going somewhere, back into the ditch with something like Little Faith or Val Jester or Fireproof.
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You know you had a permanent piece of my medium-sized American heart.

How I love that line. Otherwise, though, I think Astronauts would be the one song Alligator could stand to lose. For Trouble, I would say that song is Heavenfaced.
The "it's not a fever / it's a freezer" part is a real clunker.
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Boxer was my entry point for the band, then I went back through their earlier stuff and of course have listened to the two new releases since Boxer. Boxer remains my favorite, but, to be fair, I adore all their albums outside of the debut almost equally. I guess the gap between Boxer and the others is negligible.

As for flow, I still think Trouble Will Find Me has their best song sequencing, but that's obviously a highly subjective thing.
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As for flow
'the fuck are you talking about?
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I forgot to asterisk that, fuck.
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I was all set to write an insanely long and sappy post about The National and the album and some bullshit about my life but am opting to spare everyone and just say that I'm still listening to this album and still loving it.
I think you should write this up and message it to me.
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Most of their albums for me have this problem with flow (except Boxer). Just when it feels like we're going somewhere, back into the ditch with something like Little Faith or Val Jester or Fireproof.
Both Val Jester and Fireproof serve their purpose within the respective records and work just fine. Boxer is far too anti-climactic for me to consider it the one with great sequencing. This one works the best as far as I am concerned.
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I seem to like Heavenfaced way more than most of the people in this thread.
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