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Old 08-23-2010, 11:48 AM   #21
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at 23 i got hired a couple days before i even graduated. i graduated in august 2008, and moved from pittsburgh to st thomas virgin islands, having never been there before, in september and started work 2 days after i arrived. i had no problem with it whatsoever, other than finding a place to rent so short notice. this july i bought a condo. is that grown-up enough?

i guess im one of the lucky ones. a lot of people i know are like the article says. times are rough.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:50 PM   #22
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What I do see a lot in my age group is people who think they deserve so much right away and forget how long our parents worked and scrimped and save to "build" their homes, families, and financial security. These days there is an attitude of entitlement. So many people my age have made such huge mistakes for no reason, like this guy I know who didn't have any worries b/c his parents paid for college still ended up with huge CC debt because he wanted a nice house and all new stuff because supposedly that is just what you "get" for graduating from college, getting married, and having a job. Most of us can't live like that, we have to get our hands dirty and work our asses off to afford that sort of lifestyle. My late step-grandpa is sort of an inspiration to me in this regard. He did not come from money at all, was a blue collar worker (plumber) his entire life, was not without his own family drama (kids being unstable and needing his help financially) but he worked really hard and stashed his savings so he was able to enjoy his retirement (even then he did not spend frivolously) and help out his kids/grandkids and others in need.
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:05 PM   #23
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Yes I do think SOME, and I want to emphasize SOME, people that age have been so spoiled by their parents that they do have a sense of entitlement. Especially with the way the economy is now it just doesn't work that way. They want to charge whatever they want on credit and live a kind of lifestyle that's way beyond their means. Of course in many cases that's exactly what their parents do.
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:16 PM   #24
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It's not always people that have been spoiled though, at least not by today's definition, but people who just haven't learned what it means to actually WORK for something, make choices/sacrifices, deal with pressures and roadblocks.

There are plenty of people that have a learned helplessness because they were spoiled and sheltered and thus have very little to no life skills, but I think there's really more people in the middle that were raised decently and are not stupid people but have to make a mistake in order to get it right.
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:06 PM   #25
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It's tough to settle down. I don't know how people do it, let alone 20-somethings.

All, if not most, 20-somethings want to go clubbing every night and hook up with as many people as they can. They don't want to leave the high school/college mentality of partying. They don't want to be tied down in a marriage, having kids, worrying about the bills and having to pay for a mortgage.

I am 37 and single. I have never had a girlfriend. I still live at home with my widowed mom. I am college-educated and employed, but I don't make enough money to live on my own, let alone support a family.
I will never get married because of two things: I am physically ugly and I don't make enough money. I am a total loser, but that is besides the point.
The point is, 20-somethings want to party and have fun as long as they can.
I used to think that women who reach the age of 25 begin to start thinking about marriage and having kids. But now, I think those women want to play the field, have casual sex and live independent lives, not worrying about having to get married and have kids. Just read those Maxim magazines. You will see that most 20-something women are pretty much like that now.
I know a guy of 37 who has always lived at home except for a very brief spell where he shared a house (with two women), has been doing the same, not very well paying job for years with little or no promotional prospects, did not go to college and although nowhere close to being married is quite successful with women. His most recent G.F. was 23 and he ditched her, incidentally, not the other way around. I wouldn't say he is particularly good-looking either. In fact is on the puny side, though it probably helps with younger women that he looks a good bit younger than 37.

Fella, it's time for change. Start with ditching the Maxim magazine collection.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:52 PM   #27
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From the monogamy thread:

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There is always:

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Capitalism is great, there's a supplier for every demand.
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There is already a dating site for unattractive people

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i think a large number of those in their late 20s/early 30s are seeing these things happen because of the economy, the increased emphasis on more and more higher education and the implications of that (hard to find a job if you don't have them, hard to stay out of debt if you do)...

i also think that those in their early 20s and teens are being more and more coddled and over-protected by parents who refuse to cut the cord... and that's only getting worse each passing year.
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True, that. I work for a college, students are moving in now, and already the "helicoptering" is reaching new extremes, already have had breakdowns of bawling mothers and the freshmen are not even here yet...
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True, that. I work for a college, students are moving in now, and already the "helicoptering" is reaching new extremes, already have had breakdowns of bawling mothers and the freshmen are not even here yet...
helicopter parents are definitely one thing that i don't miss from working in higher ed. i never mastered the art of calmly talking to them, anyway.

it's so bizarre to me. my parents rented an suv to help me move my crap (which i thought was over the top!), dropped me off, and went back on the highway.
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I turn 20 in a couple of months. Should I wait till then to post in this thread?
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well it's too late now
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I think they're just used to having everything done for them, so now that they have to go out and do something on their own, they don't know how, so they do nothing.
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I guess it's a life stage that some 20-year olds pass through.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:54 AM   #37
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I would say yes and no. No because my generation seems to believe that life should be fun and we can live until we're 90 or 100, so why rush to grow up? But I would say yes because some 20-somethings are dragging their asses around when it comes to being independent, and not because they are too busy having fun. They really do seem to be babied by their parents and still have adolescent minds.


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I agree with your yes and no.. I believe that it is really good for 20 somethings to enjoy life on their own before entering marriage and children. I keep telling my kids to not even think about that stuff until they are over 25. I also think that with this economy it is very hard to be out on your own and see no problem living at home while advancing career wise.. and saving money for the future. It should not be a free ride by the parents, 20 somethings should pay their way no matter where they are if they are not going to school and they should participate in running the household.

I do see/hear about some 20 somethings dragging their asses around about being independent and being babied by their parents. I just went through an experience training a girl that just graduated college with some internship experience and she was totally clueless in so many ways. She was asked to not text during working hours and complained that she should be able to if she got her work done. (hello.. tell manager you have nothing to do.. anything else?) She also did not use her knowledge in accounting for herself, but constantly requested that I find her entry errors, etc. I absolutely know there are tons of 20 somethings that do not fit this mold... but I do think there are a lot of 20 somethings that need to learn more the hard way and not have parents guide them so much or take responsibility for themselves.

(I need to heed these thoughts carefully as my daughter goes through her senior year and into her future... my son went into the air force so that limited my parenting responsibilities as he nears his 20's.)
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i wouldn't say there's anything wrong with not growing up. i suppose as long as there's some motivation to do adult things (meaning not just being content to sit in your parents' basement all day, all that stereotypical stuff) it's fine. with cost of living being the way it is i'm sure most single people find it's easier and cheaper to live at home for a while. i will say i still struggle to determine what it is i want to do when i grow up, and i just turned 27. i don't use it as an excuse to never try anything, but just that i honestly don't know. and that seems to be true for an increasing number of people out there.
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i don't use it as an excuse to never try anything, but just that i honestly don't know. and that seems to be true for an increasing number of people out there.
I read somewhere that people who are 30 and under are more concerned with finding a job that suits their personality and needs rather than simply for paying the bills and making a living.

I agree and disagree with that sentiment. On one hand, I really do believe you should find a job that does reflect your personality or you'll be miserable. I also believe your job should define one of the reasons why you're on this earth. But at the same time some people never know what they want in life or take a real long time to figure it out. So in that case, you would have to settle for something that pays the bills and puts a roof over your head. Doing so sucks, I'm sure, but that's a fact of life.
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See I disagree, Pearl. I have no problems with people who live to work and have reached a high level of academics and/or very successful careers, but to me to make money doing something I love just takes all the fun out of it for me, it becomes an obligation. I work hard to pay my bills, keep my household fed and comfortable, and have enough on the side for some vacationing and to afford doing the things I really love doing. Is that "settling"? I love training dogs and intend to train German Shepherd dogs to a very high level of work and sport, but even the top winning stud dogs in the world are a dime a dozen. You do not make money this way and if you do, then among those that truly love the breed and the training you are considered an asshole and a sell-out that's taking people for a ride. I know *exactly* what I want in life and am currently doing it without spending a decade in school or working 80+ hours a week. I am stable financially, I live comfortably within my means, I have great credit, I'm 25 and have worked the same job for almost 8 years so I have passed technical certifications, have a long list of great references, and have built a network for new opportunities within my field.
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