The GOP News Thread - Page 5

nbelcik · 01-21-2016, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cobl04

I hear a lot of people in Flint are unemployed and underpaid.

Yep, GM built and destroyed that city. It's truly quite sad

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bobsaget77 · 01-21-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cobl04

I hear a lot of people in Flint are unemployed and underpaid.

Flint is a crap hole. It is quite sad.
Nice Sufjan reference.

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Irvine511 · 01-21-2016, 10:37 AM

i know there are good things and bad things about Michael Moore, but this was his first major movie and it's really amazing, and it's all about Flint in the 1980s:

DaveC · 01-21-2016, 12:31 PM

The man on that poster looks like the dude Michael Moore ate.

PhilsFan · 01-22-2016, 01:35 PM

Flint is what the majority of this country would be like if the GOP were allowed unchecked power over the government. Voting for the Republican Party is morally reprehensible.

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Originally Posted by nbelcik

My grandmother lives in Flint and is currently in the hospital because of pneumonia. They're testing for Legionnaires disease. I swear to god if she got it because of the water I will make it my personal mission to destroy Rick Snyder's life.

That is horrible, I hope her condition improves and quickly.

Mack_Again · 01-25-2016, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nbelcik

My grandmother lives in Flint and is currently in the hospital because of pneumonia. They're testing for Legionnaires disease. I swear to god if she got it because of the water I will make it my personal mission to destroy Rick Snyder's life.

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wow this is one of the heaviest and saddest thing I've seen for a while. (ad sure, Rick can really go to hell by now)

Moonlit_Angel · 01-26-2016, 09:51 AM

Seconding the well wishes to your grandmother, nbelcik. I hope she'll be all right.

And I also hope that any and all politicians who were involved in creating this mess go straight to jail. This is utterly horrifying and shameful.

Mack_Again · 01-26-2016, 11:40 AM

now Im horrified to drink water in Ann Arbor now. hope nbelicik's grandma's alright.

nbelcik · 01-26-2016, 10:13 PM

She is doing okay and out of the hospital. She had problems with her antibiotics but she was very dehydrated on account of not drinking enough water...fuck Snyder

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the iron horse · 01-27-2016, 05:24 PM

Where are you guys getting this "blame the Republicans" rant for the bad water in Flint?

The entire city council are Democrats.

It was a Democratic mayor of the city who brushed off complaints about the water from the residents.

Democrats are running the show there.

Irvine511 · 01-27-2016, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the iron horse

Where are you guys getting this "blame the Republicans" rant for the bad water in Flint?

The entire city council are Democrats.

It was a Democratic mayor of the city who brushed off complaints about the water from the residents.

Democrats are running the show there. They have been for years.

Look it up. It's true.

Because it's the Republican governor of Michigan's fault.

He circumvented local government by appointing unchecked "emergency managers" to take control of financial decisions of financially struggling cities. At the state’s direction, that emergency manager made the decision to switch from Detroit’s water system to contaminated Flint River water in theory to save $5m.

Snyder’s administration knew about the public health concerns yet it did nothing.

The Democrats you mention were powerless to do anything without the approval of these emergency managers.

What this shows us is that government is not a business, nor should it be run like one. And now every child in Flint has lead poisoning.

elevated_u2_fan · 01-27-2016, 05:54 PM

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now Im horrified to drink water in Ann Arbor now. hope nbelicik's grandma's alright.

umm, yeah, Ann Arbor is like on a different planet compared to Flint...

Moonlit_Angel · 01-27-2016, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nbelcik

She is doing okay and out of the hospital. She had problems with her antibiotics but she was very dehydrated on account of not drinking enough water...fuck Snyder

Ergh, yeah, I can imagine. I'm glad she's going to be okay, though

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Oregoropa · 01-27-2016, 06:04 PM

I guess it would all start with the Michigan State Department of Environmental Quality. What was their correspondence to the EPA and the Governor?

(My Step-Dad is retired from Pennsylvania DEQ, so I know they deal in matters so trivial you'd be shocked if they would not be on top of lead levels in a major city in the State)

I'm not terribly invested in the story and not gonna assign blame. If anybody wants to do the detective work see what Michigan DEQ knew and when did they know it.

BVS · 01-27-2016, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa

I guess it would all start with the Michigan State Department of Environmental Quality. What was their correspondence to the EPA and the Governor?

Well that's a place to start, one is lead by a Republican Governor and the other Republicans are constantly bragging about defunding and slowly tearing apart from the inside.

So yeah, a pretty good place to start.

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Oregoropa · 01-27-2016, 06:43 PM

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Well that's a place to start, one is lead by a Republican Governor and the other Republicans are constantly bragging about defunding and slowly tearing apart from the inside.

So yeah, a pretty good place to start.

The Governor doesn't wake up with water quality briefings everyday. On the other hand show me he ignored warnings from DEQ and declined funding to the department to fix it then you have a point.

BVS · 01-27-2016, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa

The Governor doesn't wake up with water quality briefings everyday. On the other hand show me he ignored warnings from DEQ and declined funding to the department to fix it then you have a point.

But he is in charge of the department, he was in charge of the change in water source, and there is evidence that he knew and swept it under the rug...

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the iron horse · 01-27-2016, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS

But he is in charge of the department, he was in charge of the change in water source, and there is evidence that he knew and swept it under the rug...

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The mayor, a Democrat, swept it under the rug first.

How the people of Flint, Mich., ended up with contaminated drinking water

Oregoropa · 01-27-2016, 10:42 PM

Who swept first? The Mayor or The Governor ?

According to the article. The mayor did and lost reelection.

BVS · 01-28-2016, 06:26 AM

But who moved the water source to begin with and why? Yes the Mayor tried to keep the public from a panic after complaints and they lost reelection, but the Governor was actively sweeping after knowing full well the water was contaminated. Where is his punishment?

I think calling this a Republican problem might be narrowed vision, to call this a Democrat issue is propaganda driven, this goes back to something Irvine said, you don't run a government like a business.

Ultimately this came down to running the government in the wrong way and ignoring the importance of the EPA and the DEQ.

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01-28-2016, 06:26 AM	#100
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,228 Local Time: 07:49 AM	The GOP News Thread But who moved the water source to begin with and why? Yes the Mayor tried to keep the public from a panic after complaints and they lost reelection, but the Governor was actively sweeping after knowing full well the water was contaminated. Where is his punishment? I think calling this a Republican problem might be narrowed vision, to call this a Democrat issue is propaganda driven, this goes back to something Irvine said, you don't run a government like a business. Ultimately this came down to running the government in the wrong way and ignoring the importance of the EPA and the DEQ. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference __________________

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01-21-2016, 10:37 AM	#83
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 33,243 Local Time: 09:49 AM	i know there are good things and bad things about Michael Moore, but this was his first major movie and it's really amazing, and it's all about Flint in the 1980s:

01-21-2016, 12:31 PM	#84
DaveC Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: mar-a-lago delenda est Posts: 21,575 Local Time: 09:49 AM	The man on that poster looks like the dude Michael Moore ate.

01-26-2016, 09:51 AM	#87
Moonlit_Angel Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo... Posts: 20,668 Local Time: 08:49 AM	Seconding the well wishes to your grandmother, nbelcik. I hope she'll be all right. And I also hope that any and all politicians who were involved in creating this mess go straight to jail. This is utterly horrifying and shameful.

01-26-2016, 11:40 AM	#88
Mack_Again Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: definitely Osaka Posts: 7,120 Local Time: 08:49 AM	now Im horrified to drink water in Ann Arbor now. hope nbelicik's grandma's alright.

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nbelcik Refugee Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,592 Local Time: 06:49 AM	She is doing okay and out of the hospital. She had problems with her antibiotics but she was very dehydrated on account of not drinking enough water...fuck Snyder Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference

01-27-2016, 05:24 PM	#90
the iron horse Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a glass of CheerWine Posts: 3,266 Local Time: 09:49 AM	Where are you guys getting this "blame the Republicans" rant for the bad water in Flint? The entire city council are Democrats. It was a Democratic mayor of the city who brushed off complaints about the water from the residents. Democrats are running the show there.

01-27-2016, 06:04 PM	#94
Oregoropa Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA Posts: 4,144 Local Time: 08:49 AM	I guess it would all start with the Michigan State Department of Environmental Quality. What was their correspondence to the EPA and the Governor? (My Step-Dad is retired from Pennsylvania DEQ, so I know they deal in matters so trivial you'd be shocked if they would not be on top of lead levels in a major city in the State) I'm not terribly invested in the story and not gonna assign blame. If anybody wants to do the detective work see what Michigan DEQ knew and when did they know it.

01-27-2016, 10:42 PM	#99
Oregoropa Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Polish-American Stronghold PA Posts: 4,144 Local Time: 08:49 AM	Who swept first? The Mayor or The Governor ? According to the article. The mayor did and lost reelection.