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Yep, GM built and destroyed that city. It's truly quite sad Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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Flint is a crap hole. It is quite sad. Nice Sufjan reference. ![]() Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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i know there are good things and bad things about Michael Moore, but this was his first major movie and it's really amazing, and it's all about Flint in the 1980s:
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The man on that poster looks like the dude Michael Moore ate.
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Flint is what the majority of this country would be like if the GOP were allowed unchecked power over the government. Voting for the Republican Party is morally reprehensible.
That is horrible, I hope her condition improves and quickly. |
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Seconding the well wishes to your grandmother, nbelcik. I hope she'll be all right.
And I also hope that any and all politicians who were involved in creating this mess go straight to jail. This is utterly horrifying and shameful. |
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now Im horrified to drink water in Ann Arbor now. hope nbelicik's grandma's alright.
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She is doing okay and out of the hospital. She had problems with her antibiotics but she was very dehydrated on account of not drinking enough water...fuck Snyder
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Where are you guys getting this "blame the Republicans" rant for the bad water in Flint?
The entire city council are Democrats. It was a Democratic mayor of the city who brushed off complaints about the water from the residents. Democrats are running the show there. |
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Because it's the Republican governor of Michigan's fault. He circumvented local government by appointing unchecked "emergency managers" to take control of financial decisions of financially struggling cities. At the state’s direction, that emergency manager made the decision to switch from Detroit’s water system to contaminated Flint River water in theory to save $5m. Snyder’s administration knew about the public health concerns yet it did nothing. The Democrats you mention were powerless to do anything without the approval of these emergency managers. What this shows us is that government is not a business, nor should it be run like one. And now every child in Flint has lead poisoning. |
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I guess it would all start with the Michigan State Department of Environmental Quality. What was their correspondence to the EPA and the Governor?
(My Step-Dad is retired from Pennsylvania DEQ, so I know they deal in matters so trivial you'd be shocked if they would not be on top of lead levels in a major city in the State) I'm not terribly invested in the story and not gonna assign blame. If anybody wants to do the detective work see what Michigan DEQ knew and when did they know it. |
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Well that's a place to start, one is lead by a Republican Governor and the other Republicans are constantly bragging about defunding and slowly tearing apart from the inside. So yeah, a pretty good place to start. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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The Governor doesn't wake up with water quality briefings everyday. On the other hand show me he ignored warnings from DEQ and declined funding to the department to fix it then you have a point.
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But he is in charge of the department, he was in charge of the change in water source, and there is evidence that he knew and swept it under the rug... Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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The mayor, a Democrat, swept it under the rug first. How the people of Flint, Mich., ended up with contaminated drinking water |
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Who swept first? The Mayor or The Governor ?
According to the article. The mayor did and lost reelection. |
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The GOP News Thread
But who moved the water source to begin with and why? Yes the Mayor tried to keep the public from a panic after complaints and they lost reelection, but the Governor was actively sweeping after knowing full well the water was contaminated. Where is his punishment?
__________________I think calling this a Republican problem might be narrowed vision, to call this a Democrat issue is propaganda driven, this goes back to something Irvine said, you don't run a government like a business. Ultimately this came down to running the government in the wrong way and ignoring the importance of the EPA and the DEQ. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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