MERGED ---> The Fly ... Bono's tribute to himself? + The best U2 song ever!! The Fly - Page 2

Meghan · 08-02-2006, 08:04 AM

It's alright. Average I guess.

cobl04 · 08-13-2006, 07:47 AM

Chicago's was very average in my olpinion.

theu2fly · 08-23-2006, 12:27 AM

When you listen to the Fly and see it live, you think "This song is crude, it's harsh and it's cold."

A part of me, while listening to it tonight, realized that the Fly is a song about what Bono was back in the late 80s. Bono was pretty serious back in the 80s, with his rants here and there and activism. I think when U2 reinvented itself, he chose to reinvent himself.

Bono wrote this song about himself I believe...

BVS · 08-23-2006, 12:30 AM

The Fly was a reaction to who he was in the 80's but not about...

An Cat Gav · 08-23-2006, 05:51 AM

It's about Satan calling God.

If you shout... · 08-23-2006, 06:05 AM

God is dead.

An Cat Gav · 08-23-2006, 06:10 AM

No, Nitzche is dead!

If you shout... · 08-23-2006, 06:30 AM

Okay, okay.

Nietzsche is dead.

God never existed, to begin with.

And Bono used to be really fucking cool.

Also, "The Fly" is a damn great tune, regardless of what it may or may not be trying to say. Why not leave it open to the imagination, y'know?

An Cat Gav · 08-23-2006, 06:36 AM

Because theU2fly made a post about what he thought the fly was about and I made a comment about what I thought it was about, and lets face it ,we know that that is at least partly what it is about. Bono has said it himself many many times.

An Cat Gav · 08-23-2006, 06:37 AM

The Fly is my favourite song of all time so i have given its subject matter a lot of thought over the last 15 years.

An Cat Gav · 08-23-2006, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theu2fly
When you listen to the Fly and see it live, you think "This song is crude, it's harsh and it's cold."

A part of me, while listening to it tonight, realized that the Fly is a song about what Bono was back in the late 80s. Bono was pretty serious back in the 80s, with his rants here and there and activism. I think when U2 reinvented itself, he chose to reinvent himself.

Bono wrote this song about himself I believe...

But I agree with what you say too, THe whole concept of The Fly and ZOOTV was at least partly about U2 and Bono in particular reinventing himself.
Where once he would have tried to make your heart bleed with words and couplets etc but here he is using throwaway aphorisms to an equally brilliant effect.
My favourite U2 song ever

dietcokeofevil · 08-31-2006, 10:08 AM

God, Devil etc. whether or not they existed, are well out of reach of our declarations on a message board. There are people much smarter than anyone here on both sides of that argument who don't have it figured out either way.

An Cat Gav · 09-01-2006, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dietcokeofevil
God, Devil etc. whether or not they existed, are well out of reach of our declarations on a message board. There are people much smarter than anyone here on both sides of that argument who don't have it figured out either way.

For Fu#ks sake, I just said that Bono said the song was about a phonecall from the devil to God. Bono said this , so that must be what its about.
I couldnt care less if you or anyone else on here thinks God or the Devil exist.

An Cat Gav · 09-01-2006, 04:53 AM

The Fly is my favourite U2 single. I think its perfect.
However the version on the Boston DVD is almost better than the single!
I didnt think that song could possibly get any better!!

**Bonochick** · 09-01-2006, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by If you shout...
Also, "The Fly" is a damn great tune, regardless of what it may or may not be trying to say. Why not leave it open to the imagination, y'know?

Well, this forum IS for discussing lyrics...which includes lyric interpretations.

As for the debate about whether or not God and the Devil exist...that stuff is better suited for the Free Your Mind forum.

Carek1230 · 09-02-2006, 01:32 AM

Let's face it, Bono created The Fly and he enjoyed performing as this character. I love it

cobl04 · 09-02-2006, 08:37 AM

All my friends think U2 are this really pussy pop band, to put it in their words. I just give them the following instructions:

1. Shut up
2. Go and by Achtung Baby or Boston DVD
3. Play The Fly
4. Now tell me U2 are pussy pop bitch!

Earnie Shavers · 09-12-2006, 12:44 AM

I've heard him say it's a phone call from hell, but not the devil himself.
The way I think of it is exactly that. This guy has died and gone to hell. Just like when arrested, he's given his one phone call. He calls someone he loves, his partner I imagine. And as the walls are crumbling around him and his time is almost up, as he is given these last couple of minutes to send his last message to earth, he gets more and more scattered, more confused. He's switching between anger, bitterness, guilt, sorrow, switching between asking for redemption and telling everyone to f*ck off, giving his little life lessons and openly questioning everything. He's being honest, but tricky. He's admitting to all these wrongs and weaknesses, but promising he held love at the highest. I don't think it's a steady message, I think it's deliberately random. Coming from a rushed and nervous place. I literally hear the world cracking and collapsing around him, there's that panic in Edge's guitar. I think it is one of Bono's more honest songs and on Achtung Baby, considering all of it's themes of not only being betrayed, but being the betrayor, the Fly is sort of the centrepiece. I did it, I know it, I'm not going to lie, I enjoyed it, but it takes nothing away from the fact that I love you and put you first. This what humans do.

08-02-2006, 08:04 AM	#21
Meghan Refugee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: A scatter of light Posts: 1,489 Local Time: 08:45 AM	It's alright. Average I guess. __________________

08-13-2006, 07:47 AM	#22
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,235 Local Time: 09:45 AM	Chicago's was very average in my olpinion. __________________

08-23-2006, 12:27 AM	#23
theu2fly Refugee Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,258 Local Time: 10:45 PM	The Fly ... Bono's tribute to himself? When you listen to the Fly and see it live, you think "This song is crude, it's harsh and it's cold." A part of me, while listening to it tonight, realized that the Fly is a song about what Bono was back in the late 80s. Bono was pretty serious back in the 80s, with his rants here and there and activism. I think when U2 reinvented itself, he chose to reinvent himself. Bono wrote this song about himself I believe...

09-12-2006, 12:44 AM	#38
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Sydney Posts: 6,609 Local Time: 10:45 PM	I've heard him say it's a phone call from hell, but not the devil himself. The way I think of it is exactly that. This guy has died and gone to hell. Just like when arrested, he's given his one phone call. He calls someone he loves, his partner I imagine. And as the walls are crumbling around him and his time is almost up, as he is given these last couple of minutes to send his last message to earth, he gets more and more scattered, more confused. He's switching between anger, bitterness, guilt, sorrow, switching between asking for redemption and telling everyone to f*ck off, giving his little life lessons and openly questioning everything. He's being honest, but tricky. He's admitting to all these wrongs and weaknesses, but promising he held love at the highest. I don't think it's a steady message, I think it's deliberately random. Coming from a rushed and nervous place. I literally hear the world cracking and collapsing around him, there's that panic in Edge's guitar. I think it is one of Bono's more honest songs and on Achtung Baby, considering all of it's themes of not only being betrayed, but being the betrayor, the Fly is sort of the centrepiece. I did it, I know it, I'm not going to lie, I enjoyed it, but it takes nothing away from the fact that I love you and put you first. This what humans do. __________________

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08-23-2006, 12:30 AM	#24
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 05:45 PM	The Fly was a reaction to who he was in the 80's but not about...

08-23-2006, 05:51 AM	#25
An Cat Gav Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohm Sweet Ohm Posts: 4,171 Local Time: 10:45 PM	It's about Satan calling God.

08-23-2006, 06:05 AM	#26
If you shout... Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,416 Local Time: 05:45 PM	God is dead.

08-23-2006, 06:10 AM	#27
An Cat Gav Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohm Sweet Ohm Posts: 4,171 Local Time: 10:45 PM	No, Nitzche is dead!

08-23-2006, 06:30 AM	#28
If you shout... Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,416 Local Time: 05:45 PM	Okay, okay. Nietzsche is dead. God never existed, to begin with. And Bono used to be really fucking cool. Also, "The Fly" is a damn great tune, regardless of what it may or may not be trying to say. Why not leave it open to the imagination, y'know?

08-23-2006, 06:36 AM	#29
An Cat Gav Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohm Sweet Ohm Posts: 4,171 Local Time: 10:45 PM	Because theU2fly made a post about what he thought the fly was about and I made a comment about what I thought it was about, and lets face it ,we know that that is at least partly what it is about. Bono has said it himself many many times.

08-23-2006, 06:37 AM	#30
An Cat Gav Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohm Sweet Ohm Posts: 4,171 Local Time: 10:45 PM	The Fly is my favourite song of all time so i have given its subject matter a lot of thought over the last 15 years.

08-31-2006, 10:08 AM	#32
dietcokeofevil War Child Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 577 Local Time: 10:45 PM	God, Devil etc. whether or not they existed, are well out of reach of our declarations on a message board. There are people much smarter than anyone here on both sides of that argument who don't have it figured out either way.

09-01-2006, 04:53 AM	#34
An Cat Gav Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohm Sweet Ohm Posts: 4,171 Local Time: 10:45 PM	The Fly is my favourite U2 single. I think its perfect. However the version on the Boston DVD is almost better than the single! I didnt think that song could possibly get any better!!

09-02-2006, 01:32 AM	#36
Carek1230 Blue Crack Overdose Get me off the internetz! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: wishing I was somewhere else.... Posts: 125,647 Local Time: 03:45 PM	Let's face it, Bono created The Fly and he enjoyed performing as this character. I love it

09-02-2006, 08:37 AM	#37
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,235 Local Time: 09:45 AM	All my friends think U2 are this really pussy pop band, to put it in their words. I just give them the following instructions: 1. Shut up 2. Go and by Achtung Baby or Boston DVD 3. Play The Fly 4. Now tell me U2 are pussy pop bitch!