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An homage to Morrissey, very nice.
U2 to Perform First Concerts at MSG Sphere in Las Vegas
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I also wonder if they will play the SOS versions of any of these. I would think the AB songs will be the originals but with the non-AB songs, will they opt for the [much] more stripped down versions from SOS for a "B-stage" type break in the show?
I would think it's a strong possibility and in some instances may afford them a "just the 3 of them" moment.
assuming that tickets are eventually going to go on sale - i present Headache's guide to choosing a Vegas hotel.
Hotels Closest To The Sphere
The MSG Sphere is located directly behind the Venetian and Palazzo hotels (they're technically two hotels, but they're connected)
-Venetian / Palazzo
-Wynn / Encore
-Harrah's
-The Linq
-T:I
-Mirage (soon to be Hard Rock)
Hotels That Are Further Away But Still Within a 20 minute Walk
-Cromwell
-Caesars Palace
-Horseshoe (formerly Bally's)
-Bellagio
-Cosmopolitan
-Paris
-Planet Hollywood
everything else is either a longer walk, Uber or bus ride away.
regarding price...
Highest of High End
-Wynn / Encore
High End
-Venetian / Palazzo
-Bellagio
-Cosmopolitan
-Aria
-Resorts World
-Waldorf Astoria
-Four Seasons
-Delano
Upper Mid Tier
-Mirage
-Cromwell
-Paris
-Planet Hollywood
-Park MGM
-Mandalay Bay
-MGM Grand
Lower Mid Tier
-Harrah's
-Horseshoe
-New York New York
-Luxor
Cheaper But Actually Not Bad - The Vegas Equivalent Of A Courtyard Marriott
-The Linq
-Sahara
Meh
-Tropicana
-Excalibur
-The Strat
-Westgate
Good God Never Ever Stay Here
-Circus Circus
-Oyo
-Casino Royale
You May Get Stabbed By A Meth Head If You Stay Here
TravelLodge
Don't Stay Here, But The Casino Is Actually Fun As Shit (with low limits)
-Ellis Island
High End That's Supposed To Be Open By The Fall (but was also supposed to be open 10 years ago so who knows)
Fontainebleau
Places On The Strip Where You Can Either Book Direct or find a Decently Priced AirBNB
-Vdara (part of City Center complex - Aria is closest casino)
-Signature at MGM Grand
-Elara (behind Planet Hollywood)
Location of the Pre Show TalkU2 Gathering
-Trump
Mid Tier But Isolated So You'll Need A Cab/Car To Get Anywhere - 10 minutes
-Palms
-Virgin
Meh But Isolated So You'll Need A Cab/Car To Get Anywhere - 10 minutes
-The Orleans
Trash But Isolated So You'll Need A Cab/Car To Get Anywhere So Good God Don't Stay Here - 10 minutes
-Rio
Really Nice But Way Far Off Strip - A Solid 30 Minute Cab Ride
-Red Rocks
-South Point
-Green Valley
Downtown (Fremont Street)
Pretty much every hotel down there would rank from Meh to Mid Tier - with the exception of Circa - which is a year old and prices trend between Upper Mid Tier and low High End, depending on the weekend. They also have one of the biggest sportsbooks in town, for those who care of such things (not to mention a giant TV screen by their pool to watch sportsball games).
Fremont Street has lower limit gambling, cheaper restaurants (including some really nice and less expensive steakhouses) and is a never ending party. If you do stay Downtown, try to get a room facing away from the canopy if you're a lite sleeper.
The best low limit blackjack game in town is at El Cortez - $10 3:2 single deck.
What About The Residence Inn Marriott?
There are plenty of, ya know, regular hotels... your Marriotts, Hiltons, etc. They're fine - but they're all off strip - so you're not really going to be able to walk anywhere. The costs will be similar to Strip hotels, and even if you find one that's cheaper? You're cabbing to everything - so when you take that into account you're probably better off staying on Strip.
Resort Fees
Depending on the hotel - you're going to get resort fees tacked on. Expect them to be between $30 and $50 per day, depending on the level of hotel. Even when accounting for resort fees - you're still paying less than you will in most major metro areas like New York, LA, Miami, etc.
Parking
Parking is free for hotel guests at most hotels, but isn't free for non guests anymore (it used to be all free).
Where To Eat
-Wherever Bono's going... jk jk jk
Not going to touch high end, steak houses, etc. - do your own research... but
Places Where You'll Find A Lot of Decently Priced Restaurants / Bars
-The Linq Promenade (in between The Linq and Flamingo)
-The Park (in between Park MGM and NYNY)
-Miracle Mile Shops (attached to Planet Hollywood)
-Downtown / Fremont Street
-Eataly (inside Park MGM)
-Fashion Show Mall
Places Where You'll Find A Lot of Restaurants But They're Going To Be A Little Higher Priced, but still not bad
-Grand Canal Shops (attached to Venetian / Palazzo
-Forum Shops (attached to Caesars)
Hidden Gem
-The Arts District... located just north of The Strat, in between The Strip and Downtown. There's about a half dozen breweries that have opened over the past 5+ years (and counting). Able Baker is the fucking best.
Random Tips
Sign Up For Rewards
The majority of hotels on The Strip are associated with either MGM or Caesars. You can sign up for a Reards Card for MGM or Caesars online. Do that. Even just having a base level card with zero play will get you cheaper rooms than you would if you don't have a card. If you actually have any play on it (including local associated casinos and/or mobile sportsball betting) you're going to get even better offers, and occasionally comps (but no comps on weekend dates if you don't play a lot)
MyVegas Apps
MyVegas is an app that has fake slots. It's associated with MGM. As you play you collect "VIP points," which can be redeemed for discounts on food and hotel rooms. If you play a lot you can redeem for free rooms (but typically not Friday/Saturday).
Objects In The Rearview Mirror Are Further Away Than They Appear
The properties on The Strip are huge - and because they're huge they look like they're pretty close. They're not. From The Bellagio Fountains to The Sphere is a mile and a half walk. Bring your comfy shoes.
Get A Bus Pass
All access bus pass is $8 bucks for 24 hours - $20 bucks for a 3 day pass. Will let you ride on any RTC bus. The Deuce bus goes up and down The Strip all the way up to Downtown and back. There's a stop on each super block, and you can expect a bus to be there every 15 minutes or so.
Fun Facts
-There are no open container laws on The Strip or Downtown (just no glass). Fun!
-They have the weed now - just don't do it in the hotels or you're going to get a nice, hefty fee tacked on at checkout.
-Harry Reid (formerly McCarran) has slot machines in the aiport. Allegedly the ones by baggage claim are loose, while the ones by the gates are tight. Urban legend, of course.
Hotels Closest To The Sphere
The MSG Sphere is located directly behind the Venetian and Palazzo hotels (they're technically two hotels, but they're connected)
-Venetian / Palazzo
-Wynn / Encore
-Harrah's
-The Linq
-T:I
-Mirage (soon to be Hard Rock)
Hotels That Are Further Away But Still Within a 20 minute Walk
-Cromwell
-Caesars Palace
-Horseshoe (formerly Bally's)
-Bellagio
-Cosmopolitan
-Paris
-Planet Hollywood
everything else is either a longer walk, Uber or bus ride away.
regarding price...
Highest of High End
-Wynn / Encore
High End
-Venetian / Palazzo
-Bellagio
-Cosmopolitan
-Aria
-Resorts World
-Waldorf Astoria
-Four Seasons
-Delano
Upper Mid Tier
-Mirage
-Cromwell
-Paris
-Planet Hollywood
-Park MGM
-Mandalay Bay
-MGM Grand
Lower Mid Tier
-Harrah's
-Horseshoe
-New York New York
-Luxor
Cheaper But Actually Not Bad - The Vegas Equivalent Of A Courtyard Marriott
-The Linq
-Sahara
Meh
-Tropicana
-Excalibur
-The Strat
-Westgate
Good God Never Ever Stay Here
-Circus Circus
-Oyo
-Casino Royale
You May Get Stabbed By A Meth Head If You Stay Here
TravelLodge
Don't Stay Here, But The Casino Is Actually Fun As Shit (with low limits)
-Ellis Island
High End That's Supposed To Be Open By The Fall (but was also supposed to be open 10 years ago so who knows)
Fontainebleau
Places On The Strip Where You Can Either Book Direct or find a Decently Priced AirBNB
-Vdara (part of City Center complex - Aria is closest casino)
-Signature at MGM Grand
-Elara (behind Planet Hollywood)
Location of the Pre Show TalkU2 Gathering
-Trump
Mid Tier But Isolated So You'll Need A Cab/Car To Get Anywhere - 10 minutes
-Palms
-Virgin
Meh But Isolated So You'll Need A Cab/Car To Get Anywhere - 10 minutes
-The Orleans
Trash But Isolated So You'll Need A Cab/Car To Get Anywhere So Good God Don't Stay Here - 10 minutes
-Rio
Really Nice But Way Far Off Strip - A Solid 30 Minute Cab Ride
-Red Rocks
-South Point
-Green Valley
Downtown (Fremont Street)
Pretty much every hotel down there would rank from Meh to Mid Tier - with the exception of Circa - which is a year old and prices trend between Upper Mid Tier and low High End, depending on the weekend. They also have one of the biggest sportsbooks in town, for those who care of such things (not to mention a giant TV screen by their pool to watch sportsball games).
Fremont Street has lower limit gambling, cheaper restaurants (including some really nice and less expensive steakhouses) and is a never ending party. If you do stay Downtown, try to get a room facing away from the canopy if you're a lite sleeper.
The best low limit blackjack game in town is at El Cortez - $10 3:2 single deck.
What About The Residence Inn Marriott?
There are plenty of, ya know, regular hotels... your Marriotts, Hiltons, etc. They're fine - but they're all off strip - so you're not really going to be able to walk anywhere. The costs will be similar to Strip hotels, and even if you find one that's cheaper? You're cabbing to everything - so when you take that into account you're probably better off staying on Strip.
Resort Fees
Depending on the hotel - you're going to get resort fees tacked on. Expect them to be between $30 and $50 per day, depending on the level of hotel. Even when accounting for resort fees - you're still paying less than you will in most major metro areas like New York, LA, Miami, etc.
Parking
Parking is free for hotel guests at most hotels, but isn't free for non guests anymore (it used to be all free).
Where To Eat
-Wherever Bono's going... jk jk jk
Not going to touch high end, steak houses, etc. - do your own research... but
Places Where You'll Find A Lot of Decently Priced Restaurants / Bars
-The Linq Promenade (in between The Linq and Flamingo)
-The Park (in between Park MGM and NYNY)
-Miracle Mile Shops (attached to Planet Hollywood)
-Downtown / Fremont Street
-Eataly (inside Park MGM)
-Fashion Show Mall
Places Where You'll Find A Lot of Restaurants But They're Going To Be A Little Higher Priced, but still not bad
-Grand Canal Shops (attached to Venetian / Palazzo
-Forum Shops (attached to Caesars)
Hidden Gem
-The Arts District... located just north of The Strat, in between The Strip and Downtown. There's about a half dozen breweries that have opened over the past 5+ years (and counting). Able Baker is the fucking best.
Random Tips
Sign Up For Rewards
The majority of hotels on The Strip are associated with either MGM or Caesars. You can sign up for a Reards Card for MGM or Caesars online. Do that. Even just having a base level card with zero play will get you cheaper rooms than you would if you don't have a card. If you actually have any play on it (including local associated casinos and/or mobile sportsball betting) you're going to get even better offers, and occasionally comps (but no comps on weekend dates if you don't play a lot)
MyVegas Apps
MyVegas is an app that has fake slots. It's associated with MGM. As you play you collect "VIP points," which can be redeemed for discounts on food and hotel rooms. If you play a lot you can redeem for free rooms (but typically not Friday/Saturday).
Objects In The Rearview Mirror Are Further Away Than They Appear
The properties on The Strip are huge - and because they're huge they look like they're pretty close. They're not. From The Bellagio Fountains to The Sphere is a mile and a half walk. Bring your comfy shoes.
Get A Bus Pass
All access bus pass is $8 bucks for 24 hours - $20 bucks for a 3 day pass. Will let you ride on any RTC bus. The Deuce bus goes up and down The Strip all the way up to Downtown and back. There's a stop on each super block, and you can expect a bus to be there every 15 minutes or so.
Fun Facts
-There are no open container laws on The Strip or Downtown (just no glass). Fun!
-They have the weed now - just don't do it in the hotels or you're going to get a nice, hefty fee tacked on at checkout.
-Harry Reid (formerly McCarran) has slot machines in the aiport. Allegedly the ones by baggage claim are loose, while the ones by the gates are tight. Urban legend, of course.
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DaveC
Blue Crack Addict
skip all that and stay in Primm! the loveliest little resort town west of the Mississippi.
i said do your own research on high end places, sir
Hewson
Blue Crack Supplier
I haven't been to Vegas since before my kid (who's now a freshman in college) was born, so the feedback is appreciated. My sister and brother-in-law make an annual trek (the things you can do when you don't have kids), so she'll be a good resource for me as well.
I have always rented a car before (as you stated you could park anywhere for free or valet for a few bucks tip back then), as I always like having the availability of a car, but we'll see this time with the change in parking costs and the likelihood we won't be doing any off strip stuff (We did the Hoover Dam last time I was there).
I'm interested to see how much things have changed in the past 2 decades, let's get those presales going so I can officially know if the trip will be a reality or not.
I have always rented a car before (as you stated you could park anywhere for free or valet for a few bucks tip back then), as I always like having the availability of a car, but we'll see this time with the change in parking costs and the likelihood we won't be doing any off strip stuff (We did the Hoover Dam last time I was there).
I'm interested to see how much things have changed in the past 2 decades, let's get those presales going so I can officially know if the trip will be a reality or not.
what are we here for if not to lend a hand to the fellow morally corrupt rubes.
DukeDalton
The Fly
Midnight is where the day begins
oh - another thing. don't book through Hotels.com or Kayak or shit like that. book direct. you're rarely going to get a better deal on the other sites. buying through secondary sites also limits your ability to get a refund - and if you have any intention of gambling, you have zero ability get your room comp'd on the backend if you book through these secondary sites.
again - if anyone tells you "oh you should definetly book through Kayak or Hotels.com"? they don't have a clue as to what they're talking about. don't listen to them.
case in point.
i just did a random search for November 3rd to 5th.
Kayak Prices
-Paris - $329/night
-Horseshoe - $249/night
-Flamingo - $166/night
-Planet Hollywood - $209/night
-Linq - $176/night
Caesars (booking direct)
-Paris - $271/night
-Horseshoe - $205/night
-Flamingo - $152/night
-Planet Hollywood - $183/night
-Linq - $144/night
and these are base level prices as i'm not logged in to my rewards account. after logging in these are my rates (mind you i didn't give CET much play last year - if i did the rates would likely be even lower)
-Paris - $258/night
-Horseshoe - $159/night
-Flamingo - $119/night
-Planet Hollywood - $165/night
-Linq - $104/night
compare these prices to the Courtyard Marriot in midtown Manhattan for the same weekend and you might breath a sigh of relief as to how much this may cost you.
-Courtyard NY 5th Avenue - $427/night
-Fairfield Inn 5th Avenue / $659/night
-Residence Inn Times Square - $495/night
so be thankful this is at the MSG venue in Vegas and not in New York. Vegas CAN be very expensive, but it doesn't have to be.
again - if anyone tells you "oh you should definetly book through Kayak or Hotels.com"? they don't have a clue as to what they're talking about. don't listen to them.
case in point.
i just did a random search for November 3rd to 5th.
Kayak Prices
-Paris - $329/night
-Horseshoe - $249/night
-Flamingo - $166/night
-Planet Hollywood - $209/night
-Linq - $176/night
Caesars (booking direct)
-Paris - $271/night
-Horseshoe - $205/night
-Flamingo - $152/night
-Planet Hollywood - $183/night
-Linq - $144/night
and these are base level prices as i'm not logged in to my rewards account. after logging in these are my rates (mind you i didn't give CET much play last year - if i did the rates would likely be even lower)
-Paris - $258/night
-Horseshoe - $159/night
-Flamingo - $119/night
-Planet Hollywood - $165/night
-Linq - $104/night
compare these prices to the Courtyard Marriot in midtown Manhattan for the same weekend and you might breath a sigh of relief as to how much this may cost you.
-Courtyard NY 5th Avenue - $427/night
-Fairfield Inn 5th Avenue / $659/night
-Residence Inn Times Square - $495/night
so be thankful this is at the MSG venue in Vegas and not in New York. Vegas CAN be very expensive, but it doesn't have to be.
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LuckyNumber7
Blue Crack Addict
The purpose of Hotels.com is if you don’t commit to one particular hotel brand, their rewards program will make the hotel the same price (10% off). From there, you have the ability to target cheaper hotels by your disloyalty.
It doesn’t really work because the best they can offer you is what the hotel offers you. But it’s actually pretty valuable if you are going places where hotels are hard to find or if you want to augment rewards into aparthotels.
Whenever I travel, it’s a game you gotta play. Vegas is definitely not the place to play that game.
DukeDalton
The Fly
I was promised white tigers!
Hewson
Blue Crack Supplier
trevgreg
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Thanks Headache!
If I wanted to do two shows, it’s almost cheaper for me to take a direct flight in and out for each, where I’m at. Not opposed to staying for a night depending on demand though. I’ve stayed at Paris in the past and that wasn’t too bad.
If I wanted to do two shows, it’s almost cheaper for me to take a direct flight in and out for each, where I’m at. Not opposed to staying for a night depending on demand though. I’ve stayed at Paris in the past and that wasn’t too bad.
assuming that the shows are friday and saturday, not sure that's going to work for you logistically.
DaveC
Blue Crack Addict
can confirm. last time in vegas i stayed at the flamingo and booked their cheapest room, but was upgraded to a much larger and nicer strip-view room just for agreeing to sign up for a Caesar's account when i checked in. i didn't have to gamble a penny and never used the card once the entire weekend. no chance of getting that if i had booked through expedia/kayak/whatever. Vegas is the one place where it makes a real difference to book directly.
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zoocarolina
Refugee
Didn’t see Treasure Island on your list. I’ve got a free cancellation room booked there from 10/5-10/8 if I can get tickets and they play Fri/Sat night that weekend and thinking it’s probably a 15 minute walk or so to the Sphere I believe since it’s right across the street from the Venetian.
It's on my first list - T:I
zoocarolina
Refugee
trevgreg
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Yeah, I figure it’ll be a lot of winging it once the actual dates come out. Hopefully it’s not too hectic to secure anything, flights and/or hotel wise, once that happens. But we’ll see!
ascender_RS
Refugee
Edge's interview with Neil McCormick is out today - not exactly an in depth piece.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/interviews/edge-going-difficult-break-u2/
Sounds like the Sphere dates were supposed to be last year; once they commit to something they won't back out; Larry's surgery due this year (?); they ain't breaking up anytime soon; next album will be guitar-lead but not sounding like AC/DC; he's working on lots of ideas that will need the band.
I think that's pretty much it. So in short, no idea what they're currently up to
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/interviews/edge-going-difficult-break-u2/
Sounds like the Sphere dates were supposed to be last year; once they commit to something they won't back out; Larry's surgery due this year (?); they ain't breaking up anytime soon; next album will be guitar-lead but not sounding like AC/DC; he's working on lots of ideas that will need the band.
I think that's pretty much it. So in short, no idea what they're currently up to
Edge's interview with Neil McCormick is out today - not exactly an in depth piece.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/interviews/edge-going-difficult-break-u2/
Sounds like the Sphere dates were supposed to be last year; once they commit to something they won't back out; Larry's surgery due this year (?); they ain't breaking up anytime soon; next album will be guitar-lead but not sounding like AC/DC; he's working on lots of ideas that will need the band.
I think that's pretty much it. So in short, no idea what they're currently up to
Some quotes from the article:
Despite the new album and an upcoming run of live concerts, U2 fan sites have been rife with rumours that this is the beginning of the end for the band. When they embark on a residency in Las Vegas later this year (for which dates are still to be announced), they will be without one of their founding members, Larry Mullen, who will be undergoing surgery, then taking time off to recover. “I have lots of bits falling off, elbows, knees, neck,” he told The Washington Post in December, explaining the physical toll that a life of drumming has taken. “There’s [been] some damage along the way.”
Edge insists that “no one is more disappointed than us that Larry won’t be joining us in Vegas”. The dates were originally scheduled for 2021, to inaugurate a purpose-built venue – the $1.7 billion MSG Sphere – and mark the 30th anniversary of U2’s album Achtung Baby, before everything was thrown into dis*array by the Covid pandemic. Postponing again was out of the question. “We made a commitment,” says Edge. “In the history of U2, you can count the shows we’ve missed on the fingers of one hand.”
Mullen’s temporary replacement for Vegas will be Bram van den Berg, of Dutch band Krezip. “We’re lucky to have him. He’s a powerhouse,” says Edge. “The people who are going to miss Larry the most, I think, will be Bono, Adam and myself. It’ll be strange to turn around and not see him behind us after all these years. But the shows will be amazing.”
If someone can screenshot it that would be great otherwise I'll take your word for it
Bram van den Berg, of Dutch band Krezip.
Did anyone on this whole site heard of him before? I can't even remember his name and I it's right above this sentence.
They went out of their way to give a no name an opportunity which is cool and not outshine Larry.
They could have easily gone with all star drummers who would love to play with them.
In fact, part of me thinks they made the name up and it's just a fake name for Larry Robot Arms to come back and play.
Did anyone on this whole site heard of him before? I can't even remember his name and I it's right above this sentence.
They went out of their way to give a no name an opportunity which is cool and not outshine Larry.
They could have easily gone with all star drummers who would love to play with them.
In fact, part of me thinks they made the name up and it's just a fake name for Larry Robot Arms to come back and play.
ascender_RS
Refugee
So even after that article, some U2 fans are losing their $hit by clearly not understanding the meaning of words and McCormick has had to post some quotes not used in the finished article, just to show U2 aren’t actually splitting up after all.
That's because a lot of U2 fans are drama queens
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