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The Times, October 30, 2004

Chris Ayres

THE new album by the rock veterans U2 is called How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb. An alternative could have been How To Kill The Compact Disc And Make Two Billion Dollars.

That may be what the Dublin quartet have achieved since Tuesday by signing an unprecedented joint marketing and licensing deal with Apple, the Silicon Valley firm behind the iTunes online music shop and the iPod digital music player.

Shares in Apple climbed vertiginously close to an all-time high yesterday after a week of excitement on Wall Street about the deal. That means Bono, The Edge, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen Jnr effectively added $2billion (£1.1billion) to the stock market value of the company.

It also makes their online music deal by far the most lucrative signed by any rock band in history.

The deal will see Apple release a black, U2-branded edition of the iPod player and offer an exclusive 400-track “digital box set” of all the band’s albums. The U2 iPod is expected to be released in Britain in the middle of next month. The new U2 album, meanwhile, will be in the shops on November 23.

Asked if the Apple deal meant the beginning of the end of the CD, Paul McGuinness, the band’s manager, said: “Oh yes, but it’s happening anyway. Having said that, the entire legal downloading business is still only 3per cent of the total. And the digital box set is only really available to those with broadband, or high-speed, internet. It’ll be pretty pointless with dial-up.”

There are fears, however, that the commercial venture could backfire on a group known for their Christian-inspired lyrics and outspoken views on everything from Aids in Africa to Third World debt.

Some fans feel cheated that the band is getting so corporate. Apple’s latest iPod advertising campaign, meanwhile, features U2 performing their new single, Vertigo — in what could be construed as the band’s first commercial endorsement. The Vertigo video was broadcast exclusively for 24-hours on America Online’s Music First View service. On the Slashdot website, one fan called the $349 U2 iPod “the most expensive U2 album yet ”.

U2’s deal with Apple is yet another knee to the groin of the traditional music industry, which suffered a steep 7.1per cent decline in CD sales last year. The band’s total CD sales, including such classics as The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby, stand at 120million. According to Apple, more than 5.7million iPods — critically lauded as the “Walkman of the 21st Century”, despite battery lifespan problems — have been sold since they were released in 2002. Although rival players have been released, Apple still has nearly two thirds of the market. Meanwhile, the launch of iTunes last year as the first legal music downloading website helped to double the value of online song sales to $270million (£147million). Online sales are forecast to reach $9billion (£5billion) by 2005. Rivals, including Bill Gates’s Microsoft Corporation, have tried to take business away from Apple, but so far with limited success.

The black U2 iPod will come with a $50 (£27) voucher for the digital box set, which will be sold via the iTunes service for $149 (£81).

Mr McGuinness said the deal was no different from any of U2’s other promotional activities. “We’ve always done ‘co-op’ advertising, which means we share the cost of advertising with music retailers, be it iTunes or Tower Records,” he said yesterday. “Apple didn’t pay us to be in the Vertigo ad. It would be a lot different if we were selling Coca-Cola. As for the black U2 iPod, it can be seen as just another piece of U2 merchandise.” He added that the money made by the iPod would not be going to charity.

Mr McGuiness said: “That’s something we wouldn’t discuss anyway.”

© The Times, 2004.

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I think U2's relationship with Apple is going to be really good for us fans. They'll probably be putting on all kinds of stuff on there.

Live concerts anyone? The possibilities are endless really.
 
I'm not keen on "death of the cd" talk...I much prefer to go out to a shop to buy music than get it online..its much more enjoyable.
 
how many U2 fans feel cheated? maybe a few dozen out of a few million? i think whoever wrote this relied on reaction from forums like interference too much.. we're only the most hardcore fans
 
I for one feel like U2 are trying to give everyone the most choices with their music. This is all I see. You can keep buying the cds OR the digital box set. No one is being taken hostage here. Music will always be faced with the same problem (if you can even call it a problem). That there will ALWAYS be a new way of listening to music.

What I really like, that no one seems to be acknowledging, is that U2 are offering this cool limited edition set with the cd, the dvd, and a book. At the same time that U2 decide to get all intangible with Apple, they offer a pretty tangible way to enjoy the new album. This really appeals to me.
 
sue4u2 said:
The Times, October 30, 2004

U2’s deal with Apple is yet another knee to the groin of the traditional music industry, which suffered a steep 7.1per cent decline in CD sales last year.

© The Times, 2004.


As if it's U2's fault that everybody is downloading...believe me, the music industry is thrilled to have a new U2 album coming to the marketplace...this will be good for everyone's bottom line.
 
I'm really excited about u2 and Apple working together - the idea of u2 putting out quality (non bootlegged) copies of live shows/rarities/b-sides on itunes appeals to me - and people you do not need an ipod to use itms to download your own CDs.
Pearl Jam has over ten live albums exculsively on itms now - I think U2 will follow
 
My belief is the iPod thing has the potential to be positive for all fans, both newbies and old-timers. However, I've seen scant evidence so far that it is anything more than a money grab. If U2 ends up offering us the chance to download some rarities, live material and unreleased material on an individual basis without having to buy songs we already own, that will be wonderful. So would lowered ticket prices. However, until that happens, this whole iPod thing not only bores me, but annoys the hell out of me.
 
When U2 signed with Island Records in the late 70's...were they selling out? now they only are getting a deal to sell their stuff on a different medium, and of course they will get loads of money, they are the best band in the world.
 
I love this new venture. I took issue with some of the things said in the article, the end of the CD part was a bit dramatic I thought.
It was late (early in the morning) when I ran across it and noticed the CD remark. I don't have a problem with this at all. I just thought it was a little different.
Sorry didn't mean to stir it all up again...:uhoh:
 
wow, that's absofuckinglutely amazing!
you go boys!

I still like cds but what the hell do I know?!

make a commitment to empowering the people to download their own choices, give the monopolists a little more competition.

Hubby who knows more about these things than I do says he feels the ipod is the only product that has really taken off for apple lately, and lord knows the crap bigbrother world of ms needs to be kept on its toes, so play to its strength and show what power U2 a 'mere' albeit delectable rockband can have; what a lovely double-whammy!

The cost is stinky, but hell exchange of money is what an economy is all about, right?

cheers all!
 
U2 does not have MTV to promote their music anymore and VH1 is hardly the way to go either. I think the deal with Apple is the way to go for them.
 
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