The Temple Bar - Making a pre-emptive strike... UYMFA

[UberBeaver]

You gotta know your audience, RITE?

I really don't have anything against Republicans, per se. I don't like the Christian Right agendas that they court and I don't like the greed that's associated with them. Other than that, I'm cool with them. Some conservatism is a good thing. You need balance.

 

[U2democrat]

Balance, good

Extremes, bad.

 

[the rockin edge]

I'm starting to get REALLY pissed off at the Clinton campaign.

no shit. she disgusts me.

 

[UberBeaver]

Cause she's a woman?

 

[U2democrat]

That's what she would say. But no.

It's ok for her to play the "woman getting bullied by big bad men" card, but it's not ok for Obama to play the race card (which he has not done, she's just trying to make it look like he has).

 

[the rockin edge]

Cause she's a woman?

um no.

cos she's campaigning like Karl Rove and the very party she says she's going to bring change from.

 

[U2democrat]

um no.

cos she's campaigning like Karl Rove and the very party she says she's going to bring change from.

EXACTLY!!!!


My Facebook status right now is
Laura thinks that the Clintons are using tactics that would make Karl Rove proud. Yeah I said it.

 

[UberBeaver]

Welcome, my son. Welcoooooome tooooo the Machine.

 

[U2democrat]

This is why I ve been saying she cannot bring change, because of her machine. It's not so different from the last 8 years.

Let's hope Obama can be the wrench thrown in to stop it, but I won't hold my breath.

As much as I despise these tactics, they work, which has me worried.

 

[the rockin edge]

EXACTLY!!!!


My Facebook status right now is
Laura thinks that the Clintons are using tactics that would make Karl Rove proud. Yeah I said it.

yeah, we are wise beyond our years

Hillary Clinton...smell the bullshit!

 

[the rockin edge]

Welcome, my son. Welcoooooome tooooo the Machine.

such a good song.

 

[redhotswami]

that crawford thread was the best thing that happened to eykiw in a loooong time.

 

[U2democrat]

We can only hope that Obama can expose her BS and take her down at the debate tomorrow night.


But then poor wittle Hillary will be bullied by a mean ol' man again!

 

[U2democrat]

that crawford thread was the best thing that happened to eykiw in a loooong time.

Too true.

 

[UberBeaver]

This is why I ve been saying she cannot bring change, because of her machine. It's not so different from the last 8 years.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

 

[U2democrat]

Another excellent song.

Don't let it be true

 

[the rockin edge]

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

another one

We can only hope that Obama can expose her BS and take her down at the debate tomorrow night.


But then poor wittle Hillary will be bullied by a mean ol' man again!

that's the real bullshit, there is no reason that a woman running for president should be treated any differently than a man. president is president. all this "emotion" shit is getting her out of the tough q&a.

people feel sorry for the lone woman in a debate? give me a freakin break.

 

[U2democrat]

She herself says that she has ALL this experience, she's taken the hits before so there's nothing she can't handle.

Then all of a sudden the pressure seems to be getting to her? I don't buy it.

 

[the rockin edge]

She herself says that she has ALL this experience, she's taken the hits before so there's nothing she can't handle.

Then all of a sudden the pressure seems to be getting to her? I don't buy it.

i was watching some political show on pbs (the only news i can stand usually) and they said there was no way she was faking it, because she wasnt trained as an actor! more bullshit, she's trained as a washington politician. whats the big diff?

 

[U2democrat]

Really!

I know and work with politicians, they can definitely turn it on and off. (At least the good ones can). And she's good.

 

[the rockin edge]

you? work with politicians?

 

[U2democrat]

Shocking


Anyway, look at how SHE is dividing DEMOCRATS, how the Hell is she supposed to unite people in the general, and then as president?!?!?!

 

[the rockin edge]

she wont. she can't. it's smore bullshit!

 

[U2democrat]

What I don't get is why so many people, people that I actually like, are falling for her tricks??

 

[the rockin edge]

i've said it before, and i'll say it again: people are dumb, stupidity and naivety are common place. the world is about to end. WAKE UP PEOPLE.




i think we scared the rest of the bar away with political talk.

 

[UberBeaver]

I know and work with politicians, they can definitely turn it on and off. (At least the good ones can). And she's good.

You're the best - AROUND. No one can ever keep you down. You're the best - AROUND. No one can ever keep you down.

 

[U2democrat]

That's fine. I need to vent before I explode...and we havent even gotten into it with the Republicans yet

 

[the rockin edge]

im not going to debate in fym cos i dont feel like being called a sexist pig.

 

[U2democrat]

I don't want to be accused of being young and ignorant.

 

[the rockin edge]

people call you ignorant? thats a crock lol.

im not involved in politics but i watch stuff on the channels with the least bias i can find and try to stay informed and i read lots of stuff online. im also not an idiot (or so people tell me )