rjhbonovox
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U2DMfan said:
Others do make legitamte points and that's very intersting to me to read.
Thats me your talking about, I know it is!
U2DMfan said:
Others do make legitamte points and that's very intersting to me to read.
U2DMfan said:there is a political problem on the forum, and like actual politics, it resides in the extremes.
You have fan #1 who literally has a nervous breakdown if anyone says ANYTHING remotely negative about U2 or the new album
You have fan #2 who is so stuck in a moment that they can't get out of, that anything U2 does will pale in comparison to their era of choice. So they literally gripe because it's not Achtung or War or what the hell ever.
I like to see good criticisms of the album or even U2, reading, responding having those discussions is fun and I think it reaffrims faith in the band and it's music. Because if you can read those things and agree or completely discount them, I think it's just reaffirming.
I think there are absolutely legitmate criticisms about the new album, about U2's direction and such, it's just that most fans who choose to take that route, pick the wrong fights. They often don't even realize their own hyprocrisy in some of those statements.
And their is a clique of them on this board who say the same things over and over and over.
Others do make legitamte points and that's very intersting to me to read.
I don't like the apologists much at all, some of them behave like brain dead zombies incapable of fathoming their precious band could do anything wrong. Any negative comment is met with the typical similie of choice, and they dismiss all negative reaction by default. They too, repeat the same things over and over.
These are the extreme minority, and as usual, they are the most vocal.
I would just say, if you want to praise the album, or detract the album, that's fine, certainly no one should stop you, as long as you aren't downright offensive to other board members.
But when the negatives actually lead to good discussion, all you have to do is not read it.
How many of you could just gloss over a post titled "the records are boring" knowing full and well that it was probably a negative post.
On the other hand, it works both ways, and I don't mean to throw stones, I am just saying I read this forum for good discussion about the band's music, I love U2, and I don't think everything they do is beyond reproach. It's just much more intersting to talk about things with an actual perspective that isn't so damn extreme.
Plus I think you deal with the occasiocal kids who just want a classic U2 of their own and the occasional old fart who just want it to be like the old days.
Just make it constructive people! I try to at least, and maybe I don't make any friends by saying such things, but this board gets redundant.
Shade said:I'm not in the habit of sticking up for things Bono says or does, but I remember the "fuck up the mainstream" speech, and have always thought Bono was pissed that the academy gave a mainstream stadium rock/pop band like U2 the "best alternative album" when it should have been reserved for actual alternative bands - like the Pumpkins - who could have benefitted from the award. And, I may be incorrect, but I thought Bono had actually tried to get the Pumpkins to open for U2 at one point.
Saracene said:I thought that once you sold tens of millions of records, played stadiums and arenas around the world and graced the glossy covers of every imaginable mainstream magazine, you're part of music establishment whatever you may say on the subject.
Axver said:
I'm just sick of you people shitting all over modern U2 because you're too - I don't know - to appreciate it. I love the band and I want to talk about my fandom with other people who appreciate them, rather than having these stupid fucking flame wars about how 'boring' or 'crap' or 'commercial' Album-of-choice is.
zoo99 said:Indra how can you have close to 3000 posts and not even heard the new album which was like ten bucks? Thats some weird shit, I'd hate to see how many posts you would have if you actually followed what the band was doing.
intedomine said:
Rather HTDAAB is not an accessible album, but instead an album that has 11 accessible songs on it.
If U2 were playing it safe, they would have written an album that appealed to their fans, not songs that appealed to their fans.
doctorwho said:if you want us to accept your views, please accept ours.
Axver said:Someone once told me that if I can't say anything nice, I shouldn't say anything at all.
I think I'll take that advice as I don't want to be banned for flaming the crap out of you.
doctorwho said:
Yes, why write for their fans when they can write for their fans?
And why make an accessible album when you can make accessible songs and put it on an album?
I'm sure you had a point here somewhere...
you make it sound like fact, but am sure more people like it than hate it,shaun vox said:so what slash rules
not ever one will like the stuff u2 are putting out now!
i dont know what kind of music you listen to and i dont want to attack you personally!
just chill and know that some people dont like shit music!!
KUEFC09U2 said:you make it sound like fact, but am sure more people like it than hate it,
and no slash dosent rule.... in fact him and guns n roses are nothing more than crap