I have been a u2 fan since I was 11 in 1997. I have seen and experienced everything they said after Pop, ATYCLB and HTDAAB. I outlined why this time appears to be different Sketches or ideas, not songs in the can, being used as intro music for the tour, or eing talked about as the first single from the already named album
Provisionally named album. And I'm sorry but you (nor me) have any idea if these songs are in the can. Is Winter in the can? Was Mercy? Hell, both Edge Bono have called the entire Unforgettable Fire album sketches. So I guess I don't see any evidence.
See Mikal's post. They have all mentioned it, and answered questions on it, and even the slow u2.com has used the name in articles. We also have all of the photos from the NLOTH book that clearly separates the sessions into two albums, one was called NLOTH, one was called Songs of Ascent even then.
Well, a couple things.. I hadn't seen other members call it that. But even then, it really doesn't mean much, does it? The Joshua Tree was supposed to be called Songs of Experience and.. Songs of Something in a double album. Or so Bono said once, right? Bono's also said a number of times that SoA was a provisional title. It's not to say I think you're wrong. Its just that it isn't an album because that's what the band members are currently calling it. Or not correcting it. A while back wasn't there an Interferencer who asked Edge about "Mercy", he recognized the name, but that doesn't mean that if that song was actually published that's what its name would be.
Native Son was never released as a single...
Neither was Every Breaking Wave.
It happened after ATYCLB as well. Your comments support my arguement. I am not saying it hasnt happened before, I am saying this time seems different.
Not sure how. My opinion is that next album hype following a recent release has all happened before without said album appearing for years. You're saying its different this time because they've provisionally named the album?
As opposed to a vague 'see you soon' after the last show of a 2 years tour, we have an album name, first single and all band members were tlaking about it only a month after NLOTH was released. There is no comparison.
We don't have a first single. We have a name of a song that's supposed to have been released as a first single by
now. EBW could certainly be the next single; hell it could be released tomorrow as such. But your opinion is no more informed than someone who's of the opinion that it's not coming for three years. Bono included, probably
If the release in the 4th quarter, they are competing with a plethora of other bands who are also trying to cash in on the xmas dollars. If they have a hit single, the album will sell regardless, and there will be less people trying to sell their wears at the same time, therefore more buyers in the market with less money they want to spend cd's at the time.
Not necessarily. Alot of it has to do with the single, I agree. But its not just the fans who they are counting on buying the disk, I don't think. it's the mothers, grandparents, spouses, etc buying the disk as an holiday buy at a big box.
As to them competing... Nah. I really don't think they have any more competition now than they did in 2004 or 2000.
That was the date I suggested! I find it strange you take the time to deconstruct my entire post and then agree with me at the end!
Oh?
I still think we can expect it in March 2010. They have months to finish it after the American leg, and given it is nearly done, Im sure they will push it in that time. Overall, I am confident of seeing SOA before the 3rd leg of the tour starts
The important point for everyone to take on board is this:
While we have seen the band talk about quick turnarounds after the last 3 albums, this time we have solid information, concrete names of albums,
Wait, what albums? "Sometime going back to the Rubin Sessions" is now an album? Edge just said that he wasn't even sure U2 would do Spiderman or it could be done by the cast. Bono has said Adam and Larry aren't sold on Spiderman.
songs and a rough timetable.
Who's timetable? The one Bono gave us is quickly passing. What songs? The only three that we're truly aware of without there being any conjecture is Kingdom and Winter (because they were heard) and EBW. Eno right now presumably, is in the studio seeing exactly what they have. So if they don't know, how can you?
The tour dates are so spread out, highly unusual for a 7-9 month break in the middle of a tour! They are obviously giving themselves the time they feel they require to finish the project.
How long has it been since they've opened with a summer tour? Twelve years? What basis do you have in saying it's highly unusual since they haven't done it in a long time. Being in your 30's and pushing 50 are many moons apart. One of the reasons I bet for the big break is to give Larry's back and Bono's voice a rest. And no, I'm not kidding. And they could certainly be working on SoA in that time. I certainly hope so. But there's aboslutely no evidence that they are going to.
Adams comments are the only ones that seem inconsistant, and that most likely indicates that he is trying to add a bit of secrecy to the project
How so?
Look, I'm not saying you are wrong. But you're drawing conclusions from things that aren't facts. Guess away, and I hope you're right!! But you are just spitballing when the only tools we have to guess at an albums release date is via trending their history and that history strongly goes against your theory.
The one thing you have working for you is Achtung/Zooropa. If I were to argue for SoA coming out within a year of NLOTH, I'd go that route.