Why shouldn't there be anything about homosexuality in children's books? We promote heterosexuality enough, I see no reason why there shouldn't be books showing gay people. I mean I'm not saying let's print a million books on it but if someone writes the book and a school wants it, why not?
I just think it's not the best place for it, that's all. I mean, a lot of kids, when they see it, are just going to think 'oh that's cool, this girl has two mums' and not see teh entire reasoning behind it. My mum just told me about my sister, who brought home a book last year (she's 10) about a girl who had two mums, and it was her favourite book, just because the
idea of having two mums seemed great to her because well, most little girls love their mum, having two would be awesome! It was the same when on Play School here last year, they showed a girl with two mums. There was a huge uproar. 'How can we expose our kids, blah blah blah.'
Those adverts and a lot of the stuff that I've read in this thread just makes me sad...seriously some people are unbelievable. How does gay marriage affect straight couples at all? I'm straight, I'll probably get married someday, does it matter to me if gay marriage is legal or not? Nope, I can still marry the opposite sex so I'm happy and gays can marry the same sex so they're happy, win-win no?
I don't get the tradition argument either; tradition can be wrong, we've outlawed tradition so many times in different parts of the world, but unequal marriage is somehow different?
Straight people will still marry, have children, get divorced, commit adultery whether or not gays marry so why does it matter? It's never going to affect me personally so give them the right.
I agree with all this. The tradition argument is so poor. In the end, the benefits of it would far outweigh the negatives.
What I think most shocking about Prop 8 is that it wasn't a case of 'not allowing gay people to marry in the first place' but 'taking that right away from people when they already had it.' It's an absolute example of people losing their social freedoms - this doesn't just affect gay people wishing to marry, it affects anyone who appreciates any sort of civil freedom. It shows that things people consider to be set in stone freedoms may face limitation in the future. It's depressing that, just when America seems to be making progress by electing an African American president, it takes a big step backwards too.
I don't get this -- this state made a law, allowing it yes? So why then go back and change that law? That's ridiculous, and as you say, shocking that it's a case of taking a right away.
I'm only a senior in high school, and the arguments here for Prop. 8 are just appalling. Many seniors are already old enough to vote, and many I knew voted yes. Why? The first reason is religious belief, which is a terrible reason to vote down gay rights. We have separation of church and state for a reason. Hell if your going to impose your religious beliefs on other people. The second reason is that many people are simply ignorant; they believe gays are disgusting and don't want to see them around. I also say this is a terrible reason to vote down gay rights.
I'm just finishing Year 12 as well, so I spose I'm a 'senior', and the same thing happens over here. I've got soo many friends who would be totally against allowing gay marriage, simply for that reason you've stated - that gays are disgusting. That is a terrible reason. One of my mates in particular would be very strongly against it. And I say why? He says well because it's wrong. It's disgusting. "It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." Well, no. It's not wrong, or disgusting.
We're not even taught straight marriage in school; what, are they going to start teaching gay marriage simply for the sake of being controversial?
Which is why I thought that second ad was ridiculous.
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Er .... you sure about that?
I'd be curious to hear the opinions of people who voted for prop 8, and others elsewhere who have a problem with homosexuality. Does it simply come down to a belief that homosexuality is a choice?
Whenever someone says it's "morally wrong," I assume they think that people choose to be homosexual and choose to do something "morally wrong."
My parents are two of those people.
Poor choice of words. I didn't mean to imply that they're choosing to do something morally wrong.
It's funny, it's never really brought up here in Australia, and I can't see it being legalised anytime soon.