Atease is the coldplay of Radiohead fan sites
The national sound like coldplay. Everyone sounds like coldplay. Except coldplay. They sound like u2
I once saw someone at Atease (yes, I visit there every once in a while) call The National the "Barritone Coldplay". I LOL'd.
Good post and I agree with you on most part. There are some U2 songs I wasn't that keen on when I first heard them and that I do love now....but 90% of the time those were totally opposite of Ordinary Love. Those were 'challenging' songs, not very easy listeners. I rank some of them as favourite by now. However, Ordinary Love is just not the type of song I like when it comes down to U2. I listened about 10 times and it's still as boring as the first time, I'll try it again within a few days, but I know the answer already....
The national sound like coldplay. Everyone sounds like coldplay. Except coldplay. They sound like u2
Why does The National need to have given The Fly for him to like them more than U2? He was making two separate points.
(And The National has been better than U2 since Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers, and has been my favorite band over U2 for over three years. It's not outrageous for him to think so.)
If that's what you got out of my conversation then you missed my point ENTIRELY... Or you're just doing your normal strawman case. Either way, I'm bored.I have other artists that I love and, even though that's bizarre to you,
Why should they need to challange themselves now though?, surely they should just be doing what they want at this stage in their lives?
The thing about The National is Matt almost always has something insightful or witty to say, whereas Bono hasn't in at least 15 years. Diversity in songs isn't just about instrumentation.
They should WANT to challenge themselves. Great artists do that.
They should WANT to challenge themselves. Great artists do that.
How do we know they're not challenging themselves?
With THIS song? No way I get a sense of that. Hopefully the actual album is nothing like this...and my fears will be eased.
It's so strange - that U2 seems to be trying SO HARD to be relevant - the actual opposite is happening.
With THIS song? No way I get a sense of that.
Hopefully the actual album is nothing like this...and my fears will be eased.
If that's what you got out of my conversation then you missed my point ENTIRELY... Or you're just doing your normal strawman case. Either way, I'm bored.
You're bored? I have something to for you to fix it... Instead of diverting attentions by discussing why me and other fans do not treat our other idols the same way we do to U2, you and others should be discussing for instance why has Bono become a parodic caricature of his satiric Zoo Tv alter-egos or why has the band progressively been losing substance, artistic vision among other things without using age as an excuse. Just my tip for you not to be so bored. (Sorry if that strategy of comparison with the other black sheeps' idols, here and on the "Ordinary Song" specific thread, didn't work )
But you gave it a chance. That's good!
I didn't like Ordinary Love at all upon the first listen (which was the movie recording). Hearing it a few times on good speakers made me appreciate it a LOT more.
I agree that it will never rank amongst my favorite songs or even favorite U2 songs. It is reminiscent of Electrical Storm and WITS, IMO. Both slower love songs that were more or less used to help promote something. Neither song was horrible, but neither was great. Ordinary Love seems to compliment those two well.
Sure, my opinion hasn't changed since I heard the 1 minute trailer, but I always listen to a new U2 song multiple times. Electrical Storm is great, even though they had troubles performing the song, it was a nice surprise they played it @ 360.
I was there in Milan when they played it, I had tears, it's one of the songs I really love and I never expected them to play it live. They messed it up partly, though the beginning was good, but I guess they couldn't really figure out how to play it properly and didn't bother any more. Shame they dropped it so early. Sometimes I just wish they would try harder when it comes to adding new live songs to the set and not just give up so quickly.
Oh Interf! Sure as hell ain't boring anymore around here!
If only they had kept Drowning Man from the rehearsals too.
This type of quote gets my back up a little why should you have "fears"? If you don't like it then you don't like it,
I certainly think that U2 thought "Boots" was going to be a hit. We can dig it up, but I recall them spending extra time on the "hits" section of NLOTH (which ironically, is generally considered the weakest part of the album).Putting out singles like "Get On Your Boots" and "Ordinary Love" hardly tells me the band is really fighting all that hard for relevance.
I think it is because they are trying "so hard," that we are having these delays.The lack of new material over the past 5 years also undercuts and idea that they're trying "so hard" to be relevant.
More importantly, who cares if he has fears? He can post 1000x how much he may hate the new album. But if I like it, I like it. His comments won't sway me one way or the other.
Also, I'm not sure what type of "challenge" people want form U2. AB had hints of JT and R&H in it. JT had hints of War in it. Pop had hints of AB and JT in it. ATYCLB had hints of Zooropa in it. All of this means that U2 will play around with their own sound to varying degrees - but ultimately, it still is U2.
I think it is because they are trying "so hard," that we are having these delays.