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jeevey said:
Do you not think that they expected to use those songs while in production? Maybe they didn't say, "we will now write our catchy radio hit" but in things I've read it seems like they develop a fairly clear idea of which singles will lead off before the album is wrapped.
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Oh, I think they do have those thoughts or discussions while making an album, sure. But I also don't picture Bono rubbing his hands together with a devlish grin when hearing the band make Elevation and saying "Yes, yes... a radio hit!" :lol: Maybe they just liked the instrumentation and the hooks and ran with it, you know? If it's catchy and has a chance to attracting listeners or working in a live setting, then more power to it. It's certainly not a bad thing.

jeevey said:
I haven't heard that criticism, though I have heard folks say that Edge's work on the last records was rote and safe, "dialing it in". But when they say that, they're saying that he needs to step up and start pushing the boundaries again, so I think it's frustrated love, not guitar hate.
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Could be. But I do wonder sometimes. Outside of Edge embracing power chord, shredding, and/or distortion, I'm not really sure what he could do to change it up for some listeners out there.
 
trevgreg said:
Oh, I think they do have those thoughts or discussions while making an album, sure. But I also don't picture Bono rubbing his hands together with a devlish grin when hearing the band make Elevation and saying "Yes, yes... a radio hit!" :lol: Maybe they just liked the instrumentation and the hooks and ran with it, you know? If it's catchy and has a chance to attracting listeners or working in a live setting, then more power to it. It's certainly not a bad thing.
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:lol: And I don't know if they realize that they have a potential single developing, if that realization would affect production or not.



Could be. But I do wonder sometimes. Outside of Edge embracing power chord, shredding, and/or distortion, I'm not really sure what he could do to change it up for some listeners out there.
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That's why Edge is like God. He is as he is, and he doeth as he will, and who are we to say, do this or do that? But when it works, boy does it ever work. He works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform, you might say.
 
I've accepted the fact that u2 will never top what they have accomplished in their career and I'm ok with it! If they put another album out great! I'm looking at anything extra they put out from this day forward as a bonus. God bless 'em!
 
Im in the strange position where ive got so much beer in my fridge, pantry, etc., but I really don't care I feel good enough to just go to bed and not give a flying fuck. Im not drunk, im not high, my team has a couple of QB's who can't throw the ball but they can run, and oh, our Defense plays pretty good (gives up only 7 points in 2 games).

Vertigo is no Boots, Boots is no Vertigo. According to my army medical records, I was once suspected of having vertigo. And I always wore boots, combat style, though we often talked about the war between nations. Hello hello, submarine, gasoline, satan, bomb scare, penis, vagina.

I welcome the opportunity to stop killing people. I also welcome massive solar flares and asteroids, lemmiwinks, and the earth imploding from within. Or not. I may/may not finish my stupid stories. Im not entirely sure they aren't all one in the same anyways. Flat tire and triple bypass surgery, Godspeed my friend - you're an inspiration to us all.

Oh - March 2014 - taint
 
I heard a new Moby song the other day. I hadn't given him a second thought in years. But for some reason he still thinks it makes sense for him to sing on his own songs. Although my favorite song of his (Signs of Love) he 'sings' on. If you can call it singing.

Although it appears he has a new song with Mark Lanegan on vocals. That intrigues me.
 
jeevey said:
I can certain themes in the sound that are similar- buzzy guitar tone, super catchy hook, simple structure and a really repetitive chorus; they're basically ultra-pop songs with some guitar grit. The shameless simplicity makes them really accessible on a first listen. I think that Vertigo may be the best of the bunch in terms of being absolutely irresistible- it demands to be liked and it will be liked.

While the songs are not "the same" exactly, they were all intended to be really, really catchy radio hits. Maybe Boots missed the mark partly because of the more complicated lyrics. (Lord knows it's hard to argue that Elevation's lyrics are actually "better". Boots is just harder to listen to.) Maybe it missed because Bono's voice is heading downward rather than up on the chorus and it doesn't propel you with it.
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By that argument most of U2's songs sound the same. They all have the traditional Edge delay and chime on the guitar parts.

They're catchy, sure. All use distortion guitar, sure. But does that make them sound the same? :shrug: Not at all to me. They use different effects and the songs have different structures so they aren't even closely alike.
 
I see Vertigo and Boots having similarities - the delivery of the vocals in the verses, and they both lead off with a catchy guitar riff that is also utilised by the bass. But the mixing of Boots is terrible and the chorus (is it even a chorus?) is lacking quite a bit.
As for Elevation that is different altogether. The only similarity is that it's been 3 and 4 minutes long and rocks the hell out live.
 
ChargedVT said:
But the mixing of Boots is terrible and the chorus (is it even a chorus?) is lacking quite a bit.
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I still can't figure out if the "Get on yer boots...yeah" is supposed to be the chorus, or if it's the "You don't know how beautiful you arrrrrre" bit. Doesn't matter, though. It's craptacular in almost every aspect and would've effectively ended the career of any younger rock band. It really is that bad. I'm no big fan of Vertigo, but it does what it says on the tin. If superior dad rock's your thing, Vertigo delivers in spades.
 
Boots has no chorus. It has an incredibly strange arrangement and structure. It isn't catchy at all. It's a terrible song.

Vertigo's structure is as classic as they come. It shares more in sing structure with Pride or Beautiful Day then it does boots... Verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus. It's catchy as fuck. It's a terrific song.

Boots and Vertigo are not alike. Not even close.
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
Boots has no chorus. It has an incredibly strange arrangement and structure. It isn't catchy at all. It's a terrible song.

Vertigo's structure is as classic as they come. It shares more in sing structure with Pride or Beautiful Day then it does boots... Verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus. It's catchy as fuck. It's a terrific song.

Boots and Vertigo are not alike. Not even close.
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But omg The Edge uses distortion on both songs!!!111
 
I have to admit that I do like the live version of Boots. Heard the studio version for the first time in ages last week when it came by on shuffle, and had to skip it because it made me cringe. Who the fuck thought "sexy boots" was an okay line for a song? :doh:
 
There are similarities between Boots and Vertigo: the matching guitar/bass riffs giving way to Edge throwing in some muted swipes while Bono rambles through the verses being the main one. But it's a pretty silly comparison nonetheless. As Headache said, Boots doesn't even have a chorus.
 
This is a real question, not being argumentative: what exactly makes the "get on your boots" line not a chorus? It seems to me that it's doing chorus things in chorus places, it's just not a good one.

And apologies on the conversation: whenever you guys went over this last, I wasn't here yet. I think we can mostly agree that Boots is not great. No disputes here on that.
 
Just seen this on my Facebook feed. It's from a U2 fan in Dublin, posted in the last half hour:

(Not gonna post the poor guy's name, don't actually remember how he ended up friending me or vice versa!)

Just met Dallas Shoo up at HQ. Asked how the album was coming along. "Great - some amazing songs - you'll love it!"

When's it out

"We've been told next yer"

So no release dates of tour dates?

"no - not yet"

What's i sound like? Is it Achtung Baby-esque?

(look of surprise) "no no - not at all but very very exciting"

SO is the album at post production stage at this stage?

"God no. You'd think so!!! They're still writing stuff and Edge keeps coming up with new stuff. I'm actually off to him now!!"

Thanks Dalls - talk soon

Pics to follow
 
misterboo said:

SO is the album at post production stage at this stage?

"God no. You'd think so!!! They're still writing stuff and Edge keeps coming up with new stuff. I'm actually off to him now!!"
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Somebody needs to go pry that thing out of Edge's little hands. I guess the one to do that will likely be our friend Jimmy Iovine?

Thanks for the news. Post the pics if you can!
 
So at least we know they didn't go to France to "celebrate Adam's wedding" as was reported in the media. Edge (and I'm sure the rest of the band sans Bono) seems to be in Dublin working on the album and Bono was in Omaha on Saturday. Since Edun has a show at the fashion week coming up it might well be that he's joining Ali in New York in the next days. Maybe the rest of the band can finish the album in the meantime. And maybe fans can meet them and get some more information, pictures or even demo clips :D

The only question is: Where is Danger Mouse?
 
mikal said:
Sounds like they're really lost in the music!
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Sounds like some of us are lost in "the Interference"....

At the end of the day, this album will come out when it comes out, and all the naysayers are going to eat their collective hats, have their ecstatic conniption fits, proclaim this as The "Real" 3rd Masterpiece (no, really, this time, it is!), and then go back a couple years later to saying how U2 have lost it all over again. It's the same pattern with every single U2 album going back to The Unforgettable Fire (when U2 "abandoned their roots" and went "artsy"), or the JT (when they "sold out")...or (well, you get the idea...). Now, it's just exposed on internet fan sites for the world to see and perpetuate by exponential proportions. It's a shame really. This band has given so much to everyone who has taken the time to listen. I guess they should have known they'd be listening with two faces, not just two ears. What gets me is, after all these years of success, you'd think the faith would only get stronger that this band can "bounce back" (in quotes because I really don't know what they're supposedly bouncing back from....oh yeah, a record breaking tour? And oh yeah, one of those sell out, "artsy" albums without all the singles they went for on the previous album -- which by the way, was also slammed as being their worst Grammy, "Album of the Year" ever....can they ever win? lol).
 
Can we stop with all this "woe is U2" talk? They have benefited handsomely from the fanbase, with wealth and privilege beyond our wildest dreams. A little bit of criticism on an internet board is not going to hurt their feelings, for god's sake.
 
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