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Oh, no. I'd only put it through my own hand.

But if anyone asks me why, my response will be a mysterious, anguished cry of only "WILLIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
 
Despite the "not promoting anything" line - there's a 2009 album that comes to mind but since they stopped with the singles after Crazy there is some truth to it - the decision to open with BD, or anything not coming from the latest album - regardless of how much it works, is wrong and adds fuel to the "dinosaur/nostalgia act" whiffs that U2 has felt this decade on occasions. And the mileage that UTEOTW - main set song, not opener - or Streets have compared to BD really does not help matters.

6 songs written in 2009 or 2010 plus 5 or 6 more, giving us 11 or 12 out of 22-24 songs written after 2000.

No matter what order they are in, U2 is not qualifying as a nostalgia act with set lists like these.

The nostalgia act label must be based on the whole set list. Period, end of story.

If you listen to complaints about U2 from people who are casual fans or people who just see then once, they will say that U2 didn't play much of their old stuff.

That is a fact.

I can't think of a band in U2's age group that leans on old stuff less than them.
 
"apoplectic consternation"?!

how dare he!!!

roflmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
I love "In a little while" :love: as a song, but hey, I would also like to see something new.

During ZOO TV, U2 had BALLS. BIG BALLS. I still love them to death, but you would think now that they have achieved such success, they might want to go a little crazy (if they dont go crazy tonight) with their shows and setlists.
 
Greatest Setlist Ever:

1. Return Of The Stingray Guitar
2. Beautiful Day / Singing In The Rain (snippet) / Here Comes The Sun (snippet)
3. New Year's Day
4. Get On Your Boots
5. Magnificent
6. Mysterious Ways
7. Elevation
8. Bullet The Blue Sky / Rambling (snippet) / On (snippet) / For (snippet) / T (snippet) / w (snippet) / e (snippet) / n (snippet) / t (snippet) / y (snippet) / Minutes (snippet)
9. Stuck in a Moment You Can Get Out Of
10. Grace
11. Miss Sarajevo
12. City Of Blinding Lights
13. Vertigo
14. Crazy Tonight / Discothèque (snippet)
15. Sunday Bloody Sunday
16. MLK
17. Walk On / You'll Never Walk Alone (snippet)

Encore(s):
18. One
19. Amazing Grace (snippet) / Where The Streets Have No Name
20. Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me
21. Ultra Violet (Light My Way) (printed on the original setlist, not played)
22. With Or Without You / HAHA NO SHINE LIKE STARS (snippet)
23. Moment of Surrender

No BAD No Best setlist ever!!!
 
What if they opened with DISCOTHEQUE.

I personally think it would be awesome. That riff would rev up anyone.

Just about any rocker or faster paced song would work better than Beautiful Day. Although I guess Breathe qualifies in that category and it was a mediocre opener.

Its hard to say, they need to change the opening though, I think its the worst opening they have ever done which is sad/disappointing considering the amount of material they have to work with and the stage they have.
 
Here we go:

Turin. Production rehearsals.

Our final day of rehearsals was remarkably civilised, having had a good dress rehearsal yesterday. There were some technical fixes needed, largely in getting from one song to the next, but these we sorted out. The band concentrated on the new songs as naturally these are the most likely to be under-rehearsed.

Team Content was still tweaking video sequences until the eleventh hour but this has yielded some very nice new elements. Tom Krueger shot a bold new piece for Mysterious Ways featuring a dancer (of course!) who seems to be reaching for and clawing at the band's on-screen camera images. It's clever, sensual and humorous all at the same time which is quite an achievement. Luke's reworking of the Unforgettable Fire sequence uses abstractions from CERN imagery, whilst Run Wrake has been working with the Eadweard Muybridge images of a buffalo and has produced a beautiful piece. I've long observed that even though we plan many of these things far in advance, there is still an enormous amount of the act of creation that can't fully kick in until we are on site at rehearsals. It's only then that everything become entirely clear.

We had an earlier sound curfew tonight, in exchange for an extension last night, and no-one was really in the mood to hang around unnecessarily. I had quite a few chores to finish but actually made it back to the Hotel Fabulous before the bar closed which was a first. Chat, a few drinks... here we go.
 
6 songs written in 2009 or 2010 plus 5 or 6 more, giving us 11 or 12 out of 22-24 songs written after 2000.

No matter what order they are in, U2 is not qualifying as a nostalgia act with set lists like these.

The nostalgia act label must be based on the whole set list. Period, end of story.

If you listen to complaints about U2 from people who are casual fans or people who just see then once, they will say that U2 didn't play much of their old stuff.

That is a fact.

I can't think of a band in U2's age group that leans on old stuff less than them.

That is all fine and well and I agree...but the fact is still U2 is opening with something old when they don't need to - plus the fact they're already cutting down the amount of the album this tour is actually promoting, and we're only early in leg 3*. With rumours of a new release out by the next US leg - how much of NLOTH will be left in the setlist ?

*Some might say that Bomb was down to 3 at times in Australia/Japan/NZ part of Vertigo tour, but that was under different circumstances.
 
but the fact is still U2 is opening with something old

I never knew that Return Of The Stingray Guitar was released on some past album!

Come on. Beautiful Day isn't the opener and I don't know why people keep talking as if it is. This is only the second time ever that U2 have opened full tour gigs with an unreleased track; that is what people should be underlining. The other time it happened was when Carry Me Home opened a couple back in June 1981.

Though I wholeheartedly agree with anybody who says BD is a crap choice to follow Stingray.
 
I like Stingray as an opener, but I have never been a fan of bands coming out with the full house lights on. No build up or anything. Even on Elevation I thought it would be much more exciting for them to come out in darkness, but that's just me. Opening acts and techies can come onstage in full light if they want to, not U2.
 
I like Stingray as an opener, but I have never been a fan of bands coming out with the full house lights on. No build up or anything. Even on Elevation I thought it would be much more exciting for them to come out in darkness, but that's just me. Opening acts and techies can come onstage in full light if they want to, not U2.
I agree. That's another thing I dislike in this type of shows. The way U2 goes on stage + the light effects it's too auto-celebrating before the show truly beguns. I'd rather see that happening, for instance, on an encore.
 
I think it's time for all of us to agree that the biggest mistake is that U2 is going on stage at all
they should just put on POP and Passengers with no light show, hand out some paper towels in GA, and leave it at that

I will inform Willie about this :up:
 
I never knew that Return Of The Stingray Guitar was released on some past album!

Come on. Beautiful Day isn't the opener and I don't know why people keep talking as if it is. This is only the second time ever that U2 have opened full tour gigs with an unreleased track; that is what people should be underlining. The other time it happened was when Carry Me Home opened a couple back in June 1981.

Though I wholeheartedly agree with anybody who says BD is a crap choice to follow Stingray.

Stingray isn't any more the opener than Soon was - they are just short tour intros instrumentals.

Beatiful day and Breathe are the opening song this tour, along with one-time opener Magnificent.
 
Stingray isn't any more the opener than Soon was - they are just short tour intros instrumentals.

Beatiful day and Breathe are the opening song this tour, along with one-time opener Magnificent.

I totally disagree. Stingray is a 2 minute long instrumental song that U2 actually play LIVE. Soon wasn't live at all.
Stingray is the opening song.
What if U2 started out with Bass trap and then Beautiful day? That they still open with Beautiful day? :doh:
 
I totally disagree. Stingray is a 2 minute long instrumental song that U2 actually play LIVE. Soon wasn't live at all.
Stingray is the opening song.
What if U2 started out with Bass trap and then Beautiful day? That they still open with Beautiful day? :doh:

U2 walks out on the stage during both songs. Intro music, nothing more, as indicated by the official title Return of Stingray Guitar Intro.

Bass Trap is a part of the album, and a fully realised song. U2 will never open with an instrumental, that is a moot point.
 
U2 walks out on the stage during both songs. Intro music, nothing more, as indicated by the official title Return of Stingray Guitar Intro.

Bass Trap is a part of the album, and a fully realised song. U2 will never open with an instrumental, that is a moot point.

Does "40" count as "outtro music" when the band play it and walk off, member by member?
 
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