Is this the highest priced tickets for a stadium tour?

[mo786]

Oh, well thanks for clearing that up for us... I'm sure you've calculated the average ticket price and know how much the concert is costing to put on. Do you know the setlist as well?

If other bands can put on shows for less then U2 can too - if they really want people to come to their shows they can even take less of a profit (considering they are prob richer than any artists playing there this year). There are 3 other bands doing Wembley and charging less this summer for GAs (and a lot less than £150 for seats)

I would almos imagine U2 have a lot more bargaining power with their promoters as well as they are so hot property.

The other factor is demand for the tickets, there won't be anywhere near as many people willing to pay £150 for seats for 1 gig in the UK in comparison to even 1 year ago.

IMO they have got it epically wrong, £55 for a GA is fair I guess but its no surprise they are not selling out like Vertigo tour was.

Whilst people may have been willing to pump out £60+SC for Vertigo tickets a lot less peopel are likely to pump out £55+SC in the current climate.

If they wanted recession busting prices then they should have kept all tickets in the 30-50 price range.

 

[BVS]

If other bands can put on shows for less then U2 can too - if they really want people to come to their shows they can even take less of a profit (considering they are prob richer than any artists playing there this year). There are 3 other bands doing Wembley and charging less this summer for GAs (and a lot less than £150 for seats)

I would almos imagine U2 have a lot more bargaining power with their promoters as well as they are so hot property.

The other factor is demand for the tickets, there won't be anywhere near as many people willing to pay £150 for seats for 1 gig in the UK in comparison to even 1 year ago.

IMO they have got it epically wrong, £55 for a GA is fair I guess but its no surprise they are not selling out like Vertigo tour was.

Whilst people may have been willing to pump out £60+SC for Vertigo tickets a lot less peopel are likely to pump out £55+SC in the current climate.

If they wanted recession busting prices then they should have kept all tickets in the 30-50 price range.

Once again, do you know average price vs average price? Do you know how much this production cost vs these other productions you speak of...

These are all factors that you aren't taking in consideration yet you pretend to know what's going on...

 

[mo786]

avg price v avg price?


No i don't know the specific of U2s financials but then again nor do you.... do you? I am simply basing my comments on many of the others gigs I have been to at both wembley and other UK stadium tours.

If U2 have spent a huge amount of creating a stage that has pushed the prices up then more fool them for doing so in the current climate.

I have no doubt that it will sell out, i just feel if they had mroe sensible pricing then they could have sold out 3 entire wembley shows now.

i certainly don't think they priced it this way because they HAD to for any financial pressures.

 

[thelaj]

Average price is irrelevant to punters. They see only the 4 price levels. Of course, we don't know U2's fixed costs...

Looking at ebay it seems people are willing to pay over face-value, but only for certain cities and certain seats.

 

[BVS]

avg price v avg price?


No i don't know the specific of U2s financials but then again nor do you.... do you?

I don't, that's why I'm not making judgements about how greedy they are or you are, etc...

 

[thelaj]

I also believe they have too few price levels (academically)

The best seats (next to stage) are too cheap - they are worth at least £600. But the "average £150" tickets are just not worth that to most people... they are worth £80 or £90.

 

[mo786]

You are just happier to expect U2 are offering you a fair price I presume.

The pricing is just silly and when it coems down to it if they are charging some peopel 150 to subsidise those for 30 then its not really fair for those that get the 150's because they think they won't be able to get anything else


We don;t know what the views are like but if the 150's offer the same view that you would otherwise get for £60 at most other gigs then it really is an outrage.

 

[coolian2]

The pricing is just silly and when it coems down to it if they are charging some peopel 150 to subsidise those for 30 then its not really fair for those that get the 150's because they think they won't be able to get anything else

do you fly economy class or business class? same thing happens there, and you probably don't complain about it then.

 

[mo786]

do you fly economy class or business class? same thing happens there, and you probably don't complain about it then.

well..you haven't asked me if i thought airline companies were being greedy have you...

 

[BVS]

The pricing is just silly and when it coems down to it if they are charging some peopel 150 to subsidise those for 30 then its not really fair for those that get the 150's because they think they won't be able to get anything else

Why would they think that?

We don;t know what the views are like but if the 150's offer the same view that you would otherwise get for £60 at most other gigs then it really is an outrage.

Well if you find out that the 150's are the same as a 60 at a comparable gig, then outrage all you want then... but until then the preemptive rage is just silly.

 

[BVS]

well..you haven't asked me if i thought airline companies were being greedy have you...

Anyone who makes a profit is greedy. Only the poor have hearts...

 

[mo786]

To answer your first quetsion, for the avg punter when they go and see ticketmaster and only see the expensive seats available they will think those are the only way for them to get into the gig. so they will stump up for them - not everyone is savvy enough to wait for more GAs or consider other routes.

so i should get pissed when its too late and pointless to say anything? i.e when the tickets are bought and the gigs have started?

anyway... just had a browse at the Millenium Stadium

£150 plus £13.50 service charge for a seat in U6 - right up high in the sky - are THOSE seats not meant to be the cheaper ones?!?!

BTW something tells me the cheaper seats (whilst closer to the stage) behind the stage will have a worse view - surely?

for the record, i owuld pay a lot more than £60 to see them - that doesn't mean i have to like it.

 

[coolian2]

but if you do it you lose the right to complain about it, tbh.

it's like taking a bite of a sandwich, claiming it's disgusting...then continuing to eat it while complaining more and more.

 

[BVS]

To answer your first quetsion, for the avg punter when they go and see ticketmaster and only see the expensive seats available they will think those are the only way for them to get into the gig. so they will stump up for them - not everyone is savvy enough to wait for more GAs or consider other routes.

Well that's kind of their fault isn't it... Some will buy the 150 seats because they want to, some will pass. If anyone buys it because they thought that they were forced then they aren't that bright...

so i should get pissed when its too late and pointless to say anything? i.e when the tickets are bought and the gigs have started?

No, get pissed when you have a legit reason.

 

[thelaj]

If you are looking for comparisons: I have them.

Take That (GA), Millennium Stadium Cardiff £44
Take That (Seated), Millennium Stadium Cardiff £44-£53

Take That (GA), Croke Park Dublin 69EUR
Take That (Seated), Croke Park Dublin 59EUR-79EUR

Oasis (GA), Wembley Stadium London £44
Oasis (Seated), Wembley Stadium London £44-£53

 

[BVS]

Take That vs U2

 

[thelaj]

Take That are a bigger band than U2 in the UK.

 

[thelaj]

Take That

05 June Stadium of Light
06 June Stadium of Light
08 June Richo Arena
09 June Richo Arena
10 June Richo Arena
13 June Croke Park
16 June Millennium Stadium
17 June Millennium Stadium
19 June Hampden Park
20 June Hampden Park
21 June Hampden Park
23 June Old Trafford Cricket Ground
24 June Old Trafford Cricket Ground
26 June Old Trafford Cricket Ground
27 June Old Trafford Cricket Ground
28 June Old Trafford Cricket Ground
01 July Wembley Stadium
03 July Wembley Stadium
04 July Wembley Stadium
05 July Wembley Stadium

 

[BVS]

Take That are a bigger band than U2 in the UK.

I'm just talking about my personal entertainment quality value...

Personally someone would have to pay me to see Take That...

Which is really what it comes down to...

If it's worth to me to see a band I enjoy for $95 then I'll go, if it isn't then I don't go...

 

[thelaj]

Yeah, I don't dispute what you are saying - I agree.

However, the fact is that other stadium bands are charging anything from a third to a quarter of U2's maximum ticket price, with comparable cheaper prices. They are all playing more concerts as well - maybe they won't sell out, maybe they will - but they are giving their fans a better/cheaper chance to see them. Take That bore me to tears but I admire their strategy.

U2 will rake in more revenue per show, maybe more profit (who knows?) - and one could argue at their age they can't tour that long... but the comparison is valid.

I don't ask for agreement - I just hate blind adulation or sycophantic agreement with anything (not directing this at you, or anyone else here).

Also... don't confuse willingness to pay, with ability to pay.

 

[BVS]

Yeah, I don't dispute what you are saying - I agree.

However, the fact is that other stadium bands are charging anything from a third to a quarter of U2's maximum ticket price, with comparable cheaper prices. They are all playing more concerts as well - maybe they won't sell out, maybe they will - but they are giving their fans a better/cheaper chance to see them. Take That bore me to tears but I admire their strategy.

U2 will rake in more revenue per show, maybe more profit (who knows?) - and one could argue at their age they can't tour that long... but the comparison is valid.

I don't ask for agreement - I just hate blind adulation or sycophantic agreement with anything (not directing this at you, or anyone else here).

Also... don't confuse willingness to pay, with ability to pay.

Oh, I understand...

I don't know how "big" Take That are right now or what kind of production they put on, etc...

But I understand what you are saying.

Personally, I can't think of another comparable band. If Pearl Jam put on a comparable production they would probably be the closest I can think of for an apples to apples comparison(for me), but as it stands I can't really think of any...

 

[Irishteen]

The comparison for U2 depends on how many shows they were planning on playing. If they wanted 3 shows at Wembley they screwed up prices if they wanted just one they're spot on

 

[Liesje]

U2 puts on a far more expensive show, simple as that. How much they make is not only based on how many shows, how many tickets, and the ticket prices. I'm talking about the entire production, the equipment, the technology, etc. I've never heard of Take That so maybe I should be but I'd bet money that U2 puts on a more expensive show (for them, thus for us as well).

 

[thelaj]

The comparison for U2 depends on how many shows they were planning on playing. If they wanted 3 shows at Wembley they screwed up prices if they wanted just one they're spot on

Exactly true... but is it just me who finds it a shame they wouldn't want to allow as many people as possible hear their music (as they always claim).

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When it comes to comparable artists, you need to look nationally - which is why I chose Take That and Oasis here. In the US you have artists who barely make a dent here but who are massive there.

 

[thelaj]

U2 puts on a far more expensive show, simple as that. How much they make is not only based on how many shows, how many tickets, and the ticket prices. I'm talking about the entire production, the equipment, the technology, etc. I've never heard of Take That so maybe I should be but I'd bet money that U2 puts on a more expensive show (for them, thus for us as well).

Yeah, this obviously plays a part - but I am sure most fans would be willing to forego the theatrics in return for cheaper prices.

Take That will play to about 1.2m people in the UK this year - U2 will play to roughly 350,000.

 

[mo786]

No, get pissed when you have a legit reason.

Your missing the point - whatst he point about moaning about ticket prices when its too late?

If someone logs onto ticket master and sees only expensive tickets available then they are not necessarily stupid - they just may not have experience of going to many gigs.

Bands also have the whole loyalty factor unlike with most products, hence why people will pay so much to see them, seeing U2 will probably mean more to most people than say a better plane seat.

 

[mo786]

Exactly true... but is it just me who finds it a shame they wouldn't want to allow as many people as possible hear their music (as they always claim).

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When it comes to comparable artists, you need to look nationally - which is why I chose Take That and Oasis here. In the US you have artists who barely make a dent here but who are massive there.

I very much doubt U2 only wanted to play one date in London - they will probably annouce a 2nd date sometime soon

I agree though they would probably satisfy more ans if they had cheaper tickets and sold out 3 or 4 shows (which they prob wont do with current price set up).

They will take a revnue of about 3-4million a stadium show. multiply that by all the shows they are doing and I very much doubt their stage show is that much more epensive than the likes of take that or the other bands that have played stadiums recently (certainly per show, once the thing is designed and made etc).

 

[mo786]

Coldplay are also aroudn the same price as Take That.

MUSE and Metallica were also £40 for standing IIRC.

Didn;t realise TT were doing THAT many shows - i might have to skip U2 Wembley 2 and see TT instead...

 

[eiret21]

I very much doubt U2 only wanted to play one date in London - they will probably annouce a 2nd date sometime soon

I agree though they would probably satisfy more ans if they had cheaper tickets and sold out 3 or 4 shows (which they prob wont do with current price set up).

They will take a revnue of about 3-4million a stadium show. multiply that by all the shows they are doing and I very much doubt their stage show is that much more epensive than the likes of take that or the other bands that have played stadiums recently (certainly per show, once the thing is designed and made etc).

the problem is i dont think they will seel out a 2nd wembley show at those prices

wembley 1 is still not sold out

 

[KUEFC09U2]

the problem is i dont think they will seel out a 2nd wembley show at those prices

wembley 1 is still not sold out

Wembley 1 is sold out? as i couldnt bring up ANY tickets on ticketmaster, not even singles, and see tickets shows both don valley and wembley as "sold out",