I just got back from Best Buy and the newer pic of U2 on the cliff was up over "Best Cds of the 80's".
Classic stuff.
I just got back from Best Buy and the newer pic of U2 on the cliff was up over "Best Cds of the 80's".
so the vox (i call brianvox "the vox" because all the cool kids do)... why have you never answered why your claim about the Q review from your "inside source" was completely wrong?
I don't believe q is out yet.
the review from the q was quoted in some other online publication... they're gonna call it the 2's "best the album yet"
the source in the vox's the head is the stupid.
Thanks. Its Mr. The Vox to you.
I have a rant too. Not totally related but somewhat related.
The idea that music has to be commercially unsuccessful or not promoted to be artistically good or embraced by critics is bollocks and its this idea that has killed rock music. The bands that make good accessible music get crucified by critics for making stadium ready rock. The bands that make songs that no one gives a shit for get praise and then people wonder why rock is dying.
Thanks. Its Mr. The Vox to you.
no no... the vox. all the cool kids call you the vox.
People seem to be missing my point:
- That big hollywood blockbuster that comes out on July 4th? Do you think it's finished on May 4th and then just sits in a can for 2 months? No, they're working on it right up to the last minute.
Everybody seems to forget that Radiohead had no record deal when they released In Rainbows, then signed a contract and released a physical copy anyway. Still in shops.
I assure you, and I say this from working in the movie industry. The movie sits in the can for months. They DO NOT get to work on it up until the last minute.
Exactly, why do you think when the big movie star is on Leno or Letterman promoting their movie that just came out they are always asked the question "what are you working on now?" well I'll tell you why, because they've wrapped up the current one months ago.
Where are you getting this information from? Many movies sit for a couple of months, even including post production. And then many have release date changes. But why are you comparing movies to albums? Once a movie is done the work is done, once an album is done the work just begins...People seem to be missing my point:
- That big hollywood blockbuster that comes out on July 4th? Do you think it's finished on May 4th and then just sits in a can for 2 months? No, they're working on it right up to the last minute. Same with video games, and most other forms of entertainment these days. Only TV (which has a set distribution schedule), books (which are dying as a business enterprise precisely because they cling to the old ways) and some musical acts are stuck pre-1995.
But you're basing this on what YOU want and not the band. Maybe they need the time to just decompress they are close to giving up their lives for a year and a half or more. And yes, U2 still want to promote, so it all still has to coincide with the release date. This is not just a U2 thing, every band does this...- Yes, there are a whole bunch of things that the band/machine can be doing now...none of which involves working on the actual album or is preventing it from being released. Art? The NLOTH cover was released Jan 15th. Rehearsals? Has to wait until the album is done anyway. Tour prep? Willie's been quoted as having been working on the plans since last spring, all the way through early recording (a typical U2 practice back as far as ZooTV). Promotion? Do you really think anything has happened in the last week--or will in the next week--that would reach a broader audience than the story "U2 says f-it, album is done, it's up on iTunes tonight at midnight"? They aren't just going to drop it off in the bargain bin at Sam's Club and not tell anyone...it would be the biggest story in all media--consumer and straight news, not just music media--if it happened.
Why don't you give me an example of a band that finished the album and put it out the next week...This entire process is filled with things that are traditionally done in the gap between album completion and physical distribution. Because, decades ago, the technology of that process mandated that there was a gap there. But the technology has changed. And following the same traditions now is as senseless as waiting until tomorrow morning's newspaper to find out what the weather was like today, because it's traditional to get your news from the physical newspaper.
The exact same digital files that'll be on the discs that come out March 3rd (or Feb 25th in Japan, etc.) are done and available right now. I would like to buy them. They only thing preventing me is the "traditional" gap between completion and distribution, which doesn't have to be there anymore.
I work in the industry too...the only movies that sit in a can are those that are A) pushed back to a more favorable window (for award season, or to avoid another tentpole movie landing the same weekend); B) not believed in by the current leadership at the studio (greenlit under prior management, tested poorly, needing re-shoots, etc.); C) not a big, blockbuster, tentpole movie.
The distribution systems is also completely different: there's no theater that we all need to gather at to experience the new album at the quality level the artists desire; no window of time to be booked amongst other releases for the same physical space; no 50-75% financial drop-off in ticket sales after that first opening weekend...
The exact same digital files that'll be on the discs that come out March 3rd (or Feb 25th in Japan, etc.) are done and available right now. I would like to buy them. They only thing preventing me is the "traditional" gap between completion and distribution, which doesn't have to be there anymore.
Why don't you give me an example of a band that finished the album and put it out the next week...
Except that would leave no time for "PROMOTION"