GibsonGirl
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Oh, I agree with you Zooty, it's just some of the replies that are putting me right to sleep.
doctorwho said:
Earnie's post, IMO, essentially feels that the last two albums are too, well, "pop". He feels they lack the depth of prior work. Feel free to correct me Earnie, but that's the message I received from your post.
Zootlesque said:
I agree!
But what do you think about Earnie's post? The guy makes an excellent post and the people defending the 00s suddenly disappear. No comments 'for' or 'against'.
Zootlesque said:
What? The Edge said that? No way! He doesn't even play much guitar on ATYCLB. How can it be his 2nd favorite?
I disagree. What's so obvious? There have been threads criticizing 00s U2 ever since ATYCLB was released! And believe me I know. Because I had a different id here before Mar 05.
I think there are too many of these threads criticizing their recent work because enough people feel so on this board! Did you ever think of that? And don't say that it's probably people who like other bands and that they're just popping up here to dis U2. You don't know that and neither do I. All I know is that there's a handful of people here who feel the same way as I do... and they're not any less of a fan than the 00s defenders! And I also believe that there is no smoke without fire.
Earnie Shavers said:
Try telling me you can listen to that song without wanting to burst outside into the sunshine to hug the first stranger you come across. Try.
Earnie Shavers said:
The simple thing is that something else has been completely stripped out of it for half of the fans. What I'm calling the 'spirit' of it, for us. Miracle Drug makes one person in here cry, makes me yawn. Makes STING2 jump around and declare it the best thing in over a decade, makes me cringe and wonder what the hell happened to the U2 that used to write all that great inspired music, from Boy to Pop. It's not a note to note thing, which we get bogged down it. It's when I listen to the whole CD and get to the last note of Yahweh and think "Well, that did absolutely nothing for me. Why? It's U2 for fucks sake!!! I should feel something... "
Zootlesque said:
VG, I'm not very religious. I'm more spiritual and believe in one God. So the answer is no.
VertigoGal said:
end this silliness and come get your describe on...
Zootlesque said:
It was such a euphoric moment hearing it for the first time!
U2girl said:
Yes, the ONLY reason people like ATYCLB and Bomb is because they sold a lot and won Grammys.
Nothing to do with making up their own minds and actually liking what they heard on the albums.
Of course, some opinions here are more equal than others.
Earnie Shavers: Meanwhile, Unos, Dos, Tres, Skip track
Vertigogal: have you guys ever tried debating religion with someone? just curious...
thrillme said:
Is that sarcasm?
STING2 said:
Edge did say that at the time of release.
Earnie Shavers said:
There is no way you can get through Beautiful Day without turning the volume up four times: When it begins, naturally. The first chorus. The last "Touch me..." which goes into number 4; "What you don't have..."
Axver said:
And there's countless examples of bands (including U2) releasing an album that, at the time, they thought to be great, but a few years down the track, their opinion changed.
allbecauseofu2 said:i think i know what needs to be done.
rjhbonovox said:The last 2 albums are ok but by U2's previous standards are crap. Too much thinking about how many copies there gonna sell than whether they really believe in the music their making. Kinda reminds me of David Bowies Lets Dance album era, which he now says was crap and he only made the album cos of his desire to sell shitloads of albums, which worked. Its funny though cos it took David Bowie about 10 years to realise Lets Dance was crap where as I knew when I first heard it. A bit like after hearing U2's last 2 albums, although it took me a few times more after hearing them to realise what ordinary music their now making. Music for today but long forgotten tomorrow.
Axver said:
So what? Of course he's going to say that. It's called promoting the album. He's not going to say "well, you know, it's actually not that good ..." because that's not how you get people to buy your disc!
And there's countless examples of bands (including U2) releasing an album that, at the time, they thought to be great, but a few years down the track, their opinion changed.
STING2 said:Notice, they never attempted to rank Zooropa or POP in statements they made during the promotion period for those albums.
STING2 said:Notice, they never attempted to rank Zooropa or POP in statements they made during the promotion period for those albums.
STING2 said:No one will be forgetting these albums any time soon and they are right behind Achtung Baby and Joshua Tree in terms of quality.
financeguy said:Respectively:
(1) Yes, they will
(2) No, they're not.
financeguy said:
In those days, U2 didn't need to tell themselves, or the marketplace, that they were shit hot.
They just knew it.
When a band starts telling themselves they're the best in the world, you know they're starting to lose their mojo.
If you shout... said:
Yes they have. Do your homework.
There was a time (we call it 1996-1997) when Bono referred to the Holy Trinity as Achtung Baby, Zooropa, and Pop. This was even on television...a pity less than seventeen people watched.
I'm not trying to be crazy or nothin', and I don't think I have much else to say. But you're spectacularly wrong, either way. I don't know if I'm proving or disproving anybody, but that particular comment is a-not-okay.