Alisaura
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I have no idea what a surd is (or I've repressed the memory), but !!major_panic said:Maths Teacher: "What you have there is a surd in a surd in a surd."
Student: "That's absurd!"
I have no idea what a surd is (or I've repressed the memory), but !!major_panic said:Maths Teacher: "What you have there is a surd in a surd in a surd."
Student: "That's absurd!"
The Sad Punk said:
I'm not completely certain on this, since I haven't read much about the subject, but there is the possibility that Mary was not a virgin at all, and it's simply from an accidental mistranslation of New Testament Greek that we have this interpretation.
However, I always take theories like this with a grain of salt.
Axver said:
I agree entirely. I was especially disappointed by Larry during The Fly last tour. It was the best version of The Fly ever, but Larry's drumming was made of epic phail. I tried to headbang, but he was far too boring. I headbanged anyway as Edge was rocking the fuck out, but had to imagine more drumming there to make it worthwhile ...
Alisaura said:
The only problem I have with the "atheist" thing is that choosing to NOT believe in God is just as strong a statement (to me) as believing in God is. A Christian believes there is a God - an atheist believes, just as strongly (again, this is my understanding), that there is NO God.
Axver said:
Actually, I believe this is quite true and gaining academic consensus. The original talks about a "young girl" - there is no need to read "virgin" into that, and going by societal norms, there is NO WAY after marrying Joseph that Mary would have stayed a virgin, as the marriage would not have been valid.
But the Catholic church right now doesn't seem too concerned with that sort of thing.
Axver said:
Actually, I believe this is quite true and gaining academic consensus. The original talks about a "young girl" - there is no need to read "virgin" into that, and going by societal norms, there is NO WAY after marrying Joseph that Mary would have stayed a virgin, as the marriage would not have been valid.
But the Catholic church right now doesn't seem too concerned with that sort of thing.
From what I've heard, there are loads of "accidental" mis-translations.... the very fact that someone has sat down and picked and chosen from loads of contemporaneous texts about what is Bible-worthy and what is blasphemy, makes me doubt a lot of those sort of things in the Bible. I mean, in a literal historical sense, as well as a religious one. The fact that I doubt the existence of God and all that doesn't stop me from accepting that some of the events in the Bible may well have actually happened, in some form.The Sad Punk said:I'm not completely certain on this, since I haven't read much about the subject, but there is the possibility that Mary was not a virgin at all, and it's simply from an accidental mistranslation of New Testament Greek that we have this interpretation.
However, I always take theories like this with a grain of salt.
Axver said:But it's getting too late for me to really analyse and articulate this in too much depth!
The Sad Punk said:That sounds fantastic. I consider myself lucky to have a couple of other amateur theologists as friends. It's basically the only thing we talk about after enough drinks, then I start rambling about Islamic reformation and why homophobia is so outdated in society, etc.
I'll have to make sure there's time for it and know where to stay in Melbourne, since most likely my brother will be coming with me.
I'm not a big wine drinker these days, though, other than fortified. Bad experiences with it and such. Since it'll probably be winter, I'll bring some gin along for tasting or some winter-type Belgian beers - that is, unless the heatwave is still going then!
Mind you, the nibbles must include the following:
- high quality feta
- quality tzatziki
- sun-dried tomato dip
- Camembert
- a shitload of Jatz.
I guess you have to trust someone to let them put their hand that close to your balls...?major_panic said:I remember reading that and going a giant WTF?!.
You should all check out the Brick Testament by the way - it includes some absolutely hilarious takes on the Torah laws!
Alisaura said:
From what I've heard, there are loads of "accidental" mis-translations.... the very fact that someone has sat down and picked and chosen from loads of contemporaneous texts about what is Bible-worthy and what is blasphemy, makes me doubt a lot of those sort of things in the Bible. I mean, in a literal historical sense, as well as a religious one.
Axver said:
This sounds made of ExtraSuperWin. Especially with Ali sitting in and the foods you and the Maj. have added subsequent to the quoted post. I really can't wait to do this.
Varitek said:hi thread. looks like i'm missing an interesting conversation but i didn't sleep enough last night so i can't think
Axver said:I'm jealous! I have one friend who is similarly theologically placed to me, but much less interested in it. So we can rant about religion's failings together, but we can't sit down and analyse theological claims or anything like that. In many cases, he follows my lead, which I'm not all too comfortable with.
This sounds made of ExtraSuperWin. Especially with Ali sitting in and the foods you and the Maj. have added subsequent to the quoted post. I really can't wait to do this.
And when you're in Melbourne, I think you'll be introducing me to some new booze. I really have almost solely stuck with wine ...
For some reason I find "apatheists" and "ignostics" to be amusing... never heard those terms before.Axver said:What you've described there is a strong atheist. I don't think I could ever be one of those. Weak atheism and agnosticism cross over, though not all weak atheists are agnostics (some are apatheists, some are ignostics, etc.) and I think you could probably make the case that not all agnostics are necessarily weak atheists. But it's getting too late for me to really analyse and articulate this in too much depth!
The Sad Punk said:Oh, it'd be a wonderful honour to introduce you to more alcohol! You'll get a hard start by not having Coronas as your preferred beer (it is a sign of Man's failure that the most popular beer internationally is from Mexico rather than central Europe), that drinking rum and coke is a bad, boganesque habit, and that UDLs should be consumed only by adolescent girls.
major_panic said:the Left Behind series. You should see how my lecturers get when someone mentions those "books", one of them will immediately pull out heaps of scriptures disproving the Rapture and spend the next 45 minutes completely shredding the theory apart. Brilliant, brilliant man.
Varitek said:am i correct in my recollection that regina o'numb is a little batty, or is it just that i'm associating her with jamila?
Alisaura said:
I've bookmarked that to read later... love the classification system!
Axver said:
Oh wow, that sounds like it's made of SuperWin.
Actually, let me tell you a story. This is something few people know, though it's all on the Internet so anybody could've found it out. I, uh, got into Christianity through Left Behind. Two of my friends pushed Christianity onto me when I was depressed (they did take advantage of me, but I believe they had their hearts in the right place), and one thing they gave me to read was Left Behind. I at the time was 13 and knew nothing of Christianity, so I thought that was normal! It wasn't until I was 15 that I actually took to Christianity properly, though. I originally was Axver on the Left Behind Message Board, the first forum I ever used (it closed down in mid-2003, or at least the free forum did).
Within about two months of having the Internet, sitting in on the LBMB, and not to forget Bible reading as well, I realised there was a lot more to Christianity than a bunch of people agreeing on things, and that the Left Behind and all of its theology was spurious garbage with no basis in Scripture. The less said about my introduction to Christianity, the better! I quickly moved onto bigger and better things than baseless pop theology.
..... don't wanna know.Varitek said:dear u2,
please leak some new material so i don't have to read about the edge's rectum t-shirts
love,
varitek
Axver said:
Oh wow, that sounds like it's made of SuperWin.
Actually, let me tell you a story. This is something few people know, though it's all on the Internet so anybody could've found it out. I, uh, got into Christianity through Left Behind. Two of my friends pushed Christianity onto me when I was depressed (they did take advantage of me, but I believe they had their hearts in the right place), and one thing they gave me to read was Left Behind. I at the time was 13 and knew nothing of Christianity, so I thought that was normal! It wasn't until I was 15 that I actually took to Christianity properly, though. I originally was Axver on the Left Behind Message Board, the first forum I ever used (it closed down in mid-2003, or at least the free forum did).
Within about two months of having the Internet, sitting in on the LBMB, and not to forget Bible reading as well, I realised there was a lot more to Christianity than a bunch of people agreeing on things, and that the Left Behind and all of its theology was spurious garbage with no basis in Scripture. The less said about my introduction to Christianity, the better! I quickly moved onto bigger and better things than baseless pop theology.
Axver said:
Oh wow, that sounds like it's made of SuperWin.
Actually, let me tell you a story. This is something few people know, though it's all on the Internet so anybody could've found it out. I, uh, got into Christianity through Left Behind. Two of my friends pushed Christianity onto me when I was depressed (they did take advantage of me, but I believe they had their hearts in the right place), and one thing they gave me to read was Left Behind. I at the time was 13 and knew nothing of Christianity, so I thought that was normal! It wasn't until I was 15 that I actually took to Christianity properly, though. I originally was Axver on the Left Behind Message Board, the first forum I ever used (it closed down in mid-2003, or at least the free forum did).
Within about two months of having the Internet, sitting in on the LBMB, and not to forget Bible reading as well, I realised there was a lot more to Christianity than a bunch of people agreeing on things, and that the Left Behind and all of its theology was spurious garbage with no basis in Scripture. The less said about my introduction to Christianity, the better! I quickly moved onto bigger and better things than baseless pop theology.
Alisaura said:Seeya Maj.!
Was there supposed to be a meet-up on Sunday?
Alisaura said:
..... don't wanna know.
Hi Varitek
I'm starting to think about heading out (again)...