I’ve learned the right needs to “shut the hell up” around here so I will respectfully bow out of the politics on these forums. Clearly we’re not wanted around these parts.
Spare me the "we're not wanted" persecution schtick, please. You had no problem telling posters not to "pull that crap" earlier, so if you can throw out something snarky like that, then you can surely deal with my comment.
For the record, though, I was referring mainly to the GOP and the right-wing news pundits as the kinds of people who needed to shut the hell up. It was their party that got us into this mess in the first place, with no exit plan or strategy in place. It was their party that derailed whatever our mission was supposed to be in Afghanistan with that little jaunt to Iraq. Y'know, the one they got us into based on a bunch of lies? And many a right-wing pundit happily joined in on spreading those lies and pushing for that war.
It was also their party that called those of us who were critical of any or all aspects of the war "unpatriotic", "anti-American" (remember the whole "Love it or leave it!" mantra? I sure do), and who accused us of not supporting the troops.
And it was Trump who signed a deal with the Taliban, and released Taliban prisoners who were part of the recent takeover. And many of his supporters, and members of the GOP/right-wing media, didn't seem to make a single peep about that at the time, and constantly keep refusing to acknowledge that point whenever it gets brought up.
So yeah. No, I don't want to hear from anyone on the right who supported and spouted any of the above. If there is anyone on the right who
didn't agree with any of the above, and said so, and did their part to try and be critical of the GOP's actions and words in the process, I will happily listen to them.
Otherwise, yes, they do need to shut the hell up on this issue, and no, I won't apologize for saying so. I'm tired of coddling and trying to listen to people who didn't fucking listen to those of us who were critical and warning others of these problems years ago. Those same people who didn't listen to us are now sitting here wringing their hands going, "How could this have happened, I don't understand?!?!" and refusing to take any responsibility for their role in supporting and aiding in this mess. Why should I care about or take seriously anything they have to say on this issue as a result?