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I?m not blaming the US Army. I?m blaming Saddam and Bush. The soldiers wouldn?t have been there if the US administration wouldn?t have enforced attacking Iraq.
:sulawesigirl4 said:
with malign intent will ignore them. (correct)
For those same civilians, however, unversed in combat, fleeing for their lives and doubtless terrified, a foreign military checkpoint is an unwelcome and alien obstacle. Misunderstandings are inevitable and, in conditions of war, so are fatalities..(not correct).
What do mean by that? No one disputed this story, did they? This is not the story that we were discussing originally, so I don't know what you mean. The other incident, involving the killing of 7 women and some children, has not been shown to be a suicide bombing, has it? Did I miss something?diamond said::Truth reveals itself at the end of the day...
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Michael Griffiths said:
What do mean by that? No one disputed this story, did they? This is not the story that we were discussing originally, so I don't know what you mean. The other incident, involving the killing of 7 women and some children, has not been shown to be a suicide bombing, has it? Did I miss something?
Ah, another case of pure speculation then. Thanks for clarifying.diamond said:
(edited my preceding post....)
Other than the children in the van, I do not think these ppl were in the orig story were quite the "hapless victims"
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Pure speculation? Not exactly. A popular Shiite cleric said he actually saw the people forced into the car, and the driver was under duress - his family had been threatened if he did not commit the act.Michael Griffiths said:
Ah, another case of pure speculation then. Thanks for clarifying.
80sU2isBest said:
Pure speculation? Not exactly. A popular Shiite cleric said he actually saw the people forced into the car, and the driver was under duress - his family had been threatened if he did not commit the act.
Diamond's post was pure speculation. He made no reference to the Shiite cleric's story. Therefore, your defense doesn't deny my statement. It only adds crediblity to Diamond's conclusion, but in order to show that his conclusion wasn't based on pure speculation, Diamond would have had to have used such information in the premises of that conclusion, which he did not do.80sU2isBest said:
Pure speculation? Not exactly. A popular Shiite cleric said he actually saw the people forced into the car, and the driver was under duress - his family had been threatened if he did not commit the act.
" Imagine how the soldiers that had to do that feel about it. I pray that they deal with it ok and that they don't have to do it again."
Ah, if the world was only as black and white as adding 2+2, how simple it would all be - hey Diamond?diamond said:Basic math usually came easy for me as a child.
This is very much like adding 2+2.
No offense Michael and Klaus..
but will you fellas please just
"Do the math"?
thank u
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U2luv said:I really feel for the people who died in that roadblock incident. I also feel that the military did the right thing in firing on the van given the circumstances. According to all reports there are signs all over the place there telling people that they must stop or else. They didn't stop even in spite of warning shots. How were the soldiers supposed to know it wasn't a car bomb again? Aslo according to reports, the driver(?) was forced to drive through the roadblock at threat of his family's lives. People shouldn't be getting angry at the soldiers for it. For those that are angry, can you honestly say that you would not have fired under the same circumstances?
Imagine how the soldiers that had to do that feel about it. I pray that they deal with it ok and that they don't have to do it again.
Klaus said:Arun V:
I thought that was obvious and comon sense that it's a warcrime what the Iraqi government does
But i'm still surprised that it's enough for some here that Bush is less evil than Saddam. I'm sorry, i have higher expectations to the US President
Klaus