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Not at all actually.U2Man said:hey, are they gonna beat the stones?
Stones Roll By U2 For Top Grossing Tour Ever
Billboard, November 24, 2006
Ray Waddell
Though they'll surely live to fight another day, U2's brief stint holding the title of top-grossing tour ever is over. That distinction now returns to the Rolling Stones, whose A Bigger Bang tour is now the top-grossing tour in history.
From March 28, 2005, to March 2, 2006, U2's Vertigo tour rang up grosses of more than $333 million. That put U2 ahead of the Stones' $320 million Voodoo Lounge tour of 1994-95, and the band's 10 stadium makeup shows this month will take the total to 121 shows and a gross of about $377 million.
But the Stones' numbers from their global A Bigger Bang tour shatter that mark. Since the fall of 2005, the band has grossed a staggering $437 million and drawn 3.5 million people to 110 shows. In addition, an estimated crowd of 2 million saw the band perform at Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro back in February. The tour, like every Stones trek since 1989, is produced by Michael Cohl under the Concert Productions International banner, with Live Nation.
Though no one's commenting officially, talk is that the Stones will stretch the tour into 2007, meaning a final mark of more than $500 million is easily in range.
OpperGoeroe said:
Not at all actually.
Mirrorball06 said:Sting 2,
Great threat for the Vertigo tour box offices!! But have you got the same figures for the Elevation tour and/or Popmart tour if possible?
STING2 said:
Sure do, but the I don't have the precise figures for Elevation but GROSS is rounded within 1 million and and attendence is within 100,000. The GROSS figure is more or less an exact figure printed in Billboard Magazine. The Attendance figure is an estimate because there were a few shows that did not get posted in the boxscore columns so their figures had to be estimated. But the GROSS figure is a precise figure all though it is rounded. The POPMART figures are precise figures from Amusement Business.
POPMART TOUR
GROSS: $171,677,024
ATTENDANCE: 3,935,936
SHOWS: 93
ELEVATION TOUR
GROSS: $143 million
ATTENDANCE: 2.3 million
SHOWS: 113
Mirrorball06 said:
Thanks!!
Are there accurate numbers for the gross of the 1st legs for Popmart and Elevation?
adrball said:I went to all 3 shows, and there was definately a large proportion of the top tier seats that were not used on the third night where they were on the first two.
U2FanPeter said:206,568 over 3 shows is 68,856 per Sydney performance. I don't think I heard any predictions over 70,000 per.
Axver said:
Yeah, I'd just like to chime in on this. I'm surprised the third show is listed as a sell-out but I suppose they did sell every ticket put on sale after all. I took careful note of the crowd both nights I saw U2: the second and third shows. At the second show, the entire uppermost level was packed to the back. At the third show, the crowd on the uppermost level stopped about halfway up. There were empty sections on both sides, though not significantly noticeable. Probably 5,000-10,000 less than at the previous two shows. I suppose they just deliberately did not sell the worst seats.
Of course, that's just a straight division by three, which doesn't quite hold true due to what I've just said about the third night's attendance being visibly lower. I think the first two shows must have been a tad past 70,000 per night.
Axver said:
Yeah, I'd just like to chime in on this. I'm surprised the third show is listed as a sell-out but I suppose they did sell every ticket put on sale after all. I took careful note of the crowd both nights I saw U2: the second and third shows. At the second show, the entire uppermost level was packed to the back. At the third show, the crowd on the uppermost level stopped about halfway up. There were empty sections on both sides, though not significantly noticeable. Probably 5,000-10,000 less than at the previous two shows. I suppose they just deliberately did not sell the worst seats.
U2FanPeter said:
U2's management held back tickets, the exact same seats they sold 48 and 72 hours earlier, because they care for fans sightlines?
04072511 said:So 4.6 Million, just behind Zoo TV.
U2FanPeter said:STING2, do you have the boxscore numbers for Janet Jacksons's Feb 16th 2002 show at Aloha stadium? It was the final date of her 2001-2 tour, was an HBO special and a sold out show of over 40,000 people. Just wondering how it compares to u2.
http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2992532540054037085lwaaXE
Was Saitama 2 not sold out?
Here is a photo of Saitama 2 during streets:
http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2642934560054037085WNyKUG
(Photos actually from interferencer 4U2PLAY opening night in Japan)
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U2girl said:I have a question about touring: what would Popmart's 60 USD and Zoo TV's 35 USD tickets cost today, adjusted for inflation?
STING2 said:
Mr. Waddell has his figures wrong. For the two tours to date based on figures released to date, this is how things stack up:
VERTIGO TOUR
GROSS: $372,247,430
ATTENDANCE: 4,427,587
SHOWS: 125
A BIGGER BANG TOUR
GROSS: $387,137,364
ATTENDANCE: 3,170,432
SHOWS: 98
There are still 6 U2 shows yet to be reported and 17 Rolling Stones shows. The Stones will obviously GROSS more, but more people attended the Vertigo Tour.
The real differences between this tours and what puts the VERTIGO TOUR on top, is that ever Vertigo show to date has soldout, while only a little more than half of the Rolling Stones shows soldout. U2 could easily add more shows all across the world because there is so much unmet demand, where as the Stones have been playing to half empty stadiums on the last leg of their tour in North America. Nearly all of the Stones shows in Europe did NOT sellout and some were cancelled do to poor ticket sales. In contrast, every U2 VERTIGO show in Europe soldout in minutes or hours, and than band could have gone back to Europe this summer for another 32 shows adding another $150 million gross total to their sum, which alone would have put them ahead of anything the Stones will finally finish with.
Sure, the Stones could extend their tour into 2007 and attempt to play some markets that perhaps they have not hit yet or have not played since the tour started in 2005, but with so many shows not soldout, its obvious that their tour has ran its course and their only reason for continued touring is to move the stats a little more.
It would make far more sense for the Vertigo Tour to continue given that nearly every show soldout within minutes or hours of going on sale and so many people in Europe and North America were left without tickets.
So when the final figures come in, in the next few weeks, just remember the above facts.
Mirrorball06 said:Thanks for the information Sting2!!
One more question, Are they any gross figures for the 2 American legs for the Unforgettable fire tour?
Mirrorball06 said:
If still anyone have these figures... that would be great.
STING2 said:
The final results and totals for the Rolling Stones "A Bigger Bang Tour" have now come in.
A BIGGER BANG TOUR
GROSS: $440,982,715.5
ATTENDANCE: 3,623,450
SHOWS: 113
VERTIGO TOUR
GROSS: $389,047,636
ATTENDANCE: 4,615,035
SHOWS: 131
Every show on the Vertigo Tour soldout, while about 3 dozen shows on the Bigger Bang tour did not sellout, mainly outside the USA. The Stones were forced cancel shows in Germany, France, and Hawaii in part because of low ticket sales. About 1 million more people paid to see the Vertigo Tour than paid to see the A Bigger Bang Tour.
Tour promoter, Arthur Fogal, had this to say about the Vertigo Tour, "I sometimes try and visualize, what would be the universe?" "In other words, what if you could just play and play and play? We sold over four-and-a-half million tickets on this tour, but we still underplayed basically everywhere we've gone."
alexvox said:Nov. 18-19, 2005 U2, Institute Philips Arena Atlanta, Ga. $3 500 572 40 320 40 320 2 2 $160, $49.50
I think it results in a total attendance of: 4 619 021
(Billboard annonced 4 619 021 - "U2: From joshua trees to palm trees")