You said "WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CARRY OUT SUCH ABSOLUTES!!!" oh yes we do. If your not into Vengance and someone cuts infront of you while driving. Dont honk your horn or flip him or her off in vengance. Say Peace Brother or Sister.
nbcrusader said:
After all, Tookie and other death row inmates have carried out absolutes on their own.
nbcrusader said:
Why would we allow any form of punishment if there is a possibility of an error? Isn't that just as disturbing?
trevster2k said:But how do we know for certain that he was guilty for the crimes he was convicted of? We don't. The courts in 1981 found him guilty based on testimony from accomplices who benefited from their testimony. But if that's good enough for you, so be it.
AliEnvy said:
So killing guity people is not murder?
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Prison sentence can be stopped at any time. Death can't.
Justin24 said:You said "WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CARRY OUT SUCH ABSOLUTES!!!" oh yes we do. If your not into Vengance and someone cuts infront of you while driving. Dont honk your horn or flip him or her off in vengance. Say Peace Brother or Sister.
nbcrusader said:
But to the extent we are allowing a government to "play god" and deny someone their liberty, I believe it is fully reasonable to keep capital punishment as the punishment of last resort. Yes, the government should be able to carry out such "absolutes". After all, Tookie and other death row inmates have carried out absolutes on their own.
Justin24 said:Fine executing an Innocent person is Wrong (I am sure your happy to hear that huh) But not executing a guilty person (with all the DNA test done and other proof) is wrong.
That means the person who killed you child, husband, wife, friend, is in jail for the rest of his life, being fed, clothed, gets to work out, have visits. The only visit that you can take to see the victim is the cemetary.
nbcrusader said:
I think that is a disservice to the district attorney's office. I'm not sure we should trash their integrity so quickly. For 24 years, Tookie and his attorneys had the opportunity to challenge the factual basis for the case. Multiple courts found all such challenges lacking.
Justin24 said:BonoVox, where do you live?? state ? Country?? Come over here to Hunter's point and start teaching the kids here why being in a gang is wrong.
nbcrusader said:
Deprived liberty cannot be returned.
Justin24 said:Why should I have to.
MsGiggles said:
does it matter to you either way what I think?
Justin24 said:I am not falling off the debate. He chose to create a monster (the crips) he chose to go and robb and kill those people. He should know the consiquenses of his actions. You cant be that stupid to know you might be executed.
trevster2k said:
Yes, but I was making a point. Supporters consider the death penalty to be absolute justice for a guilty man and not an act of violence or murder. I am saying that by killing an innocent life, the state is no better than the murderers they claim deserve death.
Justin24 said:So you would rather torture a murderer by keeping him alive in prison.
Justin24 said:Does it say anywhere in the Bible, Koran, Torah, that executing a convicted person can not be executed.
Justin24 said:What made you a person who is Anti-Death Penalty?
Justin24 said:The prophets who are speaking to god said this, this is a suggestion.