djerdap said:Not bands this big.
you think radiohead's still big
djerdap said:Not bands this big.
ahittle said:
Good points. But we owe nothing to the CD. Music is as popular as ever, but the CD is almost over.
And what's wrong with convenience? Illegal downloading is one thing, but the consumers want a safe, affordable, fair, legal, expeditious way of getting music. If it means dismantling the traditionally corrupt, artist-screwing major labels, so be it.
Yeah, so you have a big band acting like a small band, it's still not that inovative. They could have found out that info with a mailing list or a myspace account as well.djerdap said:
Not bands this big.
Even for those who get the album for free, some of their online details will be known to the band - that's a road to a marketing campaign, especially involving the concerts.
djerdap said:
Prince gave his album for free in the UK with a magazine in July... and sold out 21 consecutive shows in London afterwards. Not to mention the chance to seriously jeopardize the greedy system of record labels that exists today. So I would say it is quite smart.
djerdap said:Using die hards to cover their losses? There is hardly any chance that the number of die hards buying the 80-buck edition will make up for thousands of people who will get the album for free or for a low price.
djerdap said:Using die hards to cover their losses? There is hardly any chance that the number of die hards buying the 80-buck edition will make up for thousands of people who will get the album for free or for a low price.
gareth brown said:
the actual CDs/LPs are being made to order in the discbox and anyone who pre-orders them gets them in December and downloads it with everyone else.
It's not really pathetic, it's been four years since Radiohead put out their last record and maybe they just want everyone to hear it sooner rather than wait potentially months to sort out stuff with a new record label and promoting it etc etc.
Essentially they just want their fans to hear this new music, bypassing leaks and so on and pretty much offering it for FREE if people are that scabby...
I myself would take a physical album in the form of the LPs/CDs hands-down but there's no need to get so worked up over it...you just wait about two months as they're made to order and so on and it's a pretty snap announcement! Stop going on like you're part of a dying breed of people who see sense and are NORMAL and "traditional" as it's just going to end up sounding elitist!! [edit - haha, oh wait...i've just seen your post in the other thread...] Like it or not [i personally hate it] CD sales are dropping and a huge amount of people are downloading music instead simply for convenience's sake!
At the end of the day Radiohead's new album is coming out in TEN DAYS. We're finally getting to hear the music and if that means downloading it while we wait for boxsets to arrive two months later then I am more than happy to wait!
It's just experimenting with new methods of releasing music and since they're not on a label, who cares? I'm not saying it's smart and innovative and so on since tons of bands have done stuff like this but you know, as long as we don't have to wait til March to get our hands on it when the album's already totally done and dusted then fine...
djerdap said:
Not bands this big.
Headache in a Suitcase said:
you think radiohead's still big
65980 said:If a band gave one track away free, as a kind of 'teaser', on the Net, would that impact sales later on?
gareth brown said:
I myself would take a physical album in the form of the LPs/CDs hands-down but there's no need to get so worked up over it...you just wait about two months as they're made to order and so on and it's a pretty snap announcement! Stop going on like you're part of a dying breed of people who see sense and are NORMAL and "traditional" as it's just going to end up sounding elitist!! [edit - haha, oh wait...i've just seen your post in the other thread...]
They are like the Peruvian bands you see in subway stations, you give 1, 2 euros or nothing according to your mood.martha said:
Whatever you want to pay.
Truly. You get to decide how much you want to pay for it when you order it.
intedomine said:And it's also discrimination against those who don't own or use computers? How are they supposed to access new Radiohead? Why should they be suppressed from enjoying the new tunes? Mind you, I kind of expected this from the computer nerds that Radiohead themselves are.
intedomine said:
That smacks of elitism to me. Out with the old, in with the new. Let's embrace the future!Leave the people of the past behind!
ahittle said:More and more, bands are finding their prime source of income in touring and merch at concerts. It seems like now the CD is now just a vehicle to get out there and play shows. Used to be, you'd play a show to promote CD sales, and now it seems to be switching.
U2girl said:Even back in the day, U2 probably didn't make much album money until the JT-Rattle and Hum-AB megaseller trio. (come to think of it, I wonder how much money they made on tours until, say, Popmart)
ahittle said:
Yeah, didn't Paul McG say something to the effect that they didn't make much on JT - and they sank most of it back into the R&H movie? I recall him saying that they didn't start making real money until ZooTV.
How did they not absolutely kill on the JT tour? Huge singles, record, playing big ass places all over America (my frame of reference). Anybody know?
ahittle said:More and more, bands are finding their prime source of income in touring and merch at concerts. It seems like now the CD is now just a vehicle to get out there and play shows. Used to be, you'd play a show to promote CD sales, and now it seems to be switching.
intedomine said:
There was nothing shamefully wrong with the old hand-over-the-money-over-the-counter way, or at least nothing necessarilly superior about the newfangled download way. That's my main qualm.
And it's also discrimination against those who don't own or use computers? How are they supposed to access new Radiohead? Why should they be suppressed from enjoying the new tunes? Mind you, I kind of expected this from the computer nerds that Radiohead themselves are.
Why not release the album phsyically and digitally the same day? Spring a surprise release, with no prior announcement? That would be fair dinkum bold.
And this silly "discbox" idea, or what is essentially a double album (if not in the official sense). If you refuse to download or order the expensive package, how else are the non-computer savvy supposed to enjoy these new tunes?
Will In Rainbows only hit the shelves as a single album for traditional album shoppers, while digital downloaders are allowed to enjoy more tunes?
That smacks of elitism to me. Out with the old, in with the new. Let's embrace the future!Leave the people of the past behind!
mobvok said:
Computer solitaire!
mobvok said:
Your hypothetical people:
A) don't own a computer
B) if they do, don't have an internet connection
C) have no friends that could burn a CD for them
If any of those are true for someone, then getting the new Radiohead album two months later is the least of their problems in today's world.
Seriously, get with the program. It's 2007. Buy a freaking computer, and I guarantee these people's lives will improve considerably.
Free access to information! Do your taxes easily! Word Process without using a typewriter! Play music instantly! Computer solitaire!
intedomine said:
Bear in mind, if you want to have a copy of the bonus disc (essentially 8 coodabeen b-sides), you have to place an internet pre-order. Some people won't be able to do this.
And why should someone fork out 1000 bucks for a computer just to download an album?