redhotswami said:i just bought 2 boxes of organic rice milk today on sale for 89 cents!
i think if i were to drink real milk i'd probably die.
deep said:because what you call real milk is for
if you really want to get closer to real milk
then try this
Liesje said:Any food that isn't cheese is just a portal for cheese. I have six different kinds in the fridge at the moment.
deep said:if I had children I would give them milk
and I would be concerned about how it was produced, hormones in particular
a few years back I became lactose intolerance
it was hard for me to accept
as a child I drank milk all the time, instead of water, soda, or juice
as a teenager I could drink a quart on a ten minute break
all that said, I now believe in America we drink too much dairy milk
the "Dairy Lobby" has a lot of influence
there is not much need for it once we are adults, it is most likely more harmful than beneficial
Vincent Vega said:I like milk The calf feeding leads me to another question.
Growing up outside the city you also can see how cows and other animals "reproduce".
How can we spare our children from this traumatizing experience?
like this:
I know, this is no cow
Vincent Vega said:
Pushing the dog to the doctor, what a great story
Vincent Vega said:I went to school by a school bus, and sometimes you could just see a cow and a bull doing it.
So you can imagine what happened when the children looked out the window
But that's just normal.
Pushing the dog to the doctor, what a great story
More people are learning about lactose intolerance, which is a good thing.
I only drin milk as caocao, put some honey in it and heat it up, or use it with cereals or muesli.
Sometimes I eat milk rice as will with cinnamon and sugar
Liesje said:The link you posted doesn't go anywhere. What are we supposed to be reading? Maybe you can post it?
This reminds me of a good-natured rant I once heard a fellow Southerner-turned-Midwesterner go off on involving the idea of "You order an effing cup of coffee out here and it's got a slice of cheese floating in it, for God's sake!" Of course Americans in general tend to eat a lot of cheese (which I've never been able to anyhow, due to cow's-milk allergies) but Midwesterners really do seem to be the extreme there. I can still remember my shock when I first moved out here at encountering things like a "side salad" that shows up mounded with shredded cheese, or ordering a slice of apple pie only to be asked "You want cheese on that?".Liesje said:I eat cheese like nobody's business. Any food that isn't cheese is just a portal for cheese. I have six different kinds in the fridge at the moment.
Well perhaps you could explain what connection you wanted to see made and what aspect of the issue you wanted to discuss, because it really isn't self-explanatory. The link is working again at the moment (and you've posted this link before in a thread about 'real butter', as I recall). Hormones and antibiotics? Pasteurization? Big agribusiness vs. small farming? The comparative healthfulness and promotion as such of reduced-fat vs. whole milk? .....??the iron horse said:Not many people seem to be reading about real milk,which is a bad thing.
There's some connection here we are not making.
*this is a very good topic, worth some thought
Thirty-four-year-old Brigitta Jansen, a statuesque brunette with radiant skin, is no stranger to unpasteurized milk. She grew up in a tiny German village, where she and her grandmother, pails in hand, would fetch milk fresh from a neighbor's farm. But over the years, after moving to a bigger town and then, ultimately, to New York City, she unthinkingly switched to pasteurized milk, which was more convenient and easier to find.
Two years ago, however, while pregnant with her first child, the eczema that had always plagued her got a lot worse. "My skin grew so sensitive. I would stand in the shower and scratch my arms and legs," Jansen says. After a lengthy Internet search, she came across the Weston A. Price Foundation, which promotes the nutritional philosophies of a Canadian dentist who advocated eating traditional foods such as grass-fed beef and raw dairy products. Price's 1939 book, "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration," showed -- with photographic evidence of implausibly straight and cavity-free teeth -- how the nutritionally rich diets of so-called primitive cultures were far healthier than the diets of Western industrial nations.
Jansen bought "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" and read it cover to cover. After that, "I had to have raw milk," she says. And through the New York City chapter of the WAPF, now 600 members strong, she found a farmer who produced it. After a few months of drinking the milk on a daily basis, Jansen's eczema was gone. She guzzled it throughout her pregnancy and now that she's breast-feeding, craves it even more. "I drink about a quart a day," Jansen says, laughing.
Jansen is part of a growing movement of health-conscious consumers who say that unpasteurized milk -- as long as it's from grass-fed cows -- is capable of reversing chronic diseases from asthma to irritable bowel syndrome. According to raw milk devotees, pasteurization -- which zaps the milk to 145 degrees (or even higher with ultra-pasteurization) -- destroys vitamins A, B12 and C as well as beneficial bacteria such as lactobacillus, enzymes such as phosphatase (which facilitates proper calcium absorption), and an anti-arthritis compound called the Wulzen Factor. Lactobacillus, in turn, breaks down into lactase, an enzyme that helps people digest lactose, making raw milk easier for even the lactose-intolerant to imbibe.
yolland said:
This reminds me of a good-natured rant I once heard a fellow Southerner-turned-Midwesterner go off on involving the idea of "You order an effing cup of coffee out here and it's got a slice of cheese floating in it, for God's sake!" Of course Americans in general tend to eat a lot of cheese (which I've never been able to anyhow, due to cow's-milk allergies) but Midwesterners really do seem to be the extreme there. I can still remember my shock when I first moved out here at encountering things like a "side salad" that shows up mounded with shredded cheese, or ordering a slice of apple pie only to be asked "You want cheese on that?".
Vincent Vega said:my brother and I always drank a glass of milk that came fresh from the cows and was still slightly warm.