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It is good.
RobH said:Ok everybody...I'm getting really close to another lenghty post about why Pop is truly horrible...but been there, done that. Let's just say that liking Pop doesn't put you in some special "we're cool because we like the worst album" club. Remember, the album actually has to be good.
AtomicBono said:
lolololz
right because we don't actually like the album because we think it's good, we like it because we want to be in some special club
foo', Pop has been my favourite album since 1997. I didn't know a damn thing about U2 then and certainly didn't know it was a "flop" and I "wasn't supposed to like it" or whatever. my love for Pop is deeply personal and has nothing to do with anyone else's opinion.
Total U2 Nut said:
But yeah, I love Pop - but no matter how hard I try, I cannot like Miami. It's one of my least favourite U2 songs. Whereas The Playboy Mansion =
Chizip said:
because its a big radio hit that all the stinky casual fans love
doesnt mean it rocks as much live
LuvandPeace1980 said:
Pop is an awesome concept, I love it.
It's my original era of U2, it's when I became a fan.. It's the special album to me
AtomicBono said:
right because we don't actually like the album because we think it's good, we like it because we want to be in some special club
LuvandPeace1980 said:
It's my original era of U2, it's when I became a fan.. It's the special album to me
RobH said:
As far as this argument goes, then any album qualifies as a masterpiece as long as it's "special" to him or her for some reason. I know somebody who absolutely loved that Color Me Bad album because of the time in her life that it represented. Enough said.
RobH said:
Let's face it, it's not sexy defending The Joshua Tree.
Earnie Shavers said:
There's nothing to defend, it's unanimously considered a fucking brilliant album in here.
At least personally, I think that one of the reasons I feel such a need to defend Pop is because the band certainly aren't defending it. They seem to have disowned it, and that bothers me. Perhaps I'm delusional, but from what I've picked up from reading U2 By U2 and other interviews and bits and pieces here and there, I think Bono is proud of the album, he's just not proud of the reception it's gotten.RobH said:But Pop defenders seize on this issue like their mother has been insulted. Then they argue every reason in the world as to why it's great except...well...why it's great. I'm yet to read a coherent arguement with at least some objectivity as to what makes this album great.
DreamOutLoud13 said:But another reason why Pop defenders defend it so hard is that there are some Pop-bashers that seem to have ridiculous reasons for not liking it. Like the people that call it a dance album. Who the fuck started the rumour that Pop is a dance album? The first quarter of it maybe. And then again, there may be some techno beats, but lyrically, it's far from club music. It seems that a lot of the people out there bashing it never really gave it a chance. And that bothers me. It's like I feel the need to educate them. Because I do think it's great, and that those that aren't giving it a chance are missing out.
But those that have listened to it, several times, over the course of several months, and still don't like it. That's their business, I suppose. Though I still think they're mad
DreamOutLoud13 said:
Like the people that call it a dance album. Who the fuck started the rumour that Pop is a dance album?
Bonochick said:
I remember seeing a Bono interview where he said that he told somebody they were making a dense album, and soon word spread that they were making a dance album.
RobH said:Would've been much more interesting to read bonocomet, but I know what you mean. Sometimes it's just like "who gives a f" Other times you've just got to make your point. I chose this battle.
Great post i feel the same way about POP.bonocomet said:
Yeah I was going to choose this one too. But it's just that after 6 or 7 pages it starts to all sound the same, like you said above you had the same debate a year ago and little progress had been made. I know you said you are still waiting for someone to give you a coherent arguement as to why Pop is great. Well, I probably can't do that. All I can say is it's the feeling I get when I listen to the songs. I don't think it's something I can really describe coherently. (which is why I deleted my previous post) It's always in my top two albums even though the other seems to change all the time. I guess if I had to choose only one U2 album to go with me to that deserted island it would have to be Pop. I know that's not the coherent arguement you're looking for, but with music, for me anyways, there isn't always one. I just get the best feeling when I'm listening to Pop, it's really like a music induced high, more so than any other album for me.
So there's my 2 cents. It's the incredible way it makes me feel.
Good luck with the battle!
Ok I won't delete this one.
U2Man said:no he said it during an interview done on a bus in dublin, 1997. bonochick is right.
AtomicBono said:man I had a five paragraph reply to this, no joke. It was about how Pop is awesome because of the layers of sound and the rhythm section and the lyrics and Bono's dynamic voice and Edge's guitar and all this stuff, but then my internet went away and said it hated me
AtomicBono said:man I had a five paragraph reply to this, no joke. It was about how Pop is awesome because of the layers of sound and the rhythm section and the lyrics and Bono's dynamic voice and Edge's guitar and all this stuff, but then my internet went away and said it hated me