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Me neither
I'm not frustrated.
ah yes that's better...seeing as Bono is the singer, not the guitar player anyway
and I'm sure most people read that didn't think twice about it like you said....I just wanted to make sure that you really didn't mean his "musical abilities" cause umm...that would be pretty foolish
Amen to that. You are right that people would actually be more angry at getting a Bono quote than getting nothing--happened a decent amount with pre-Bomb stuff.
Amen.
Add "Final Drive" as another solid piece of evidence for November.
And although it hasn't been brought up as much lately, especially because the producers started yapping, do people remember the point I brought up earlier--that the band were taking a consciously "hush-hush" approach to this album as compared to previous ones. Now, that may not have a lot to do with this current debate, but I think the concept of taking a fresh approach to hype/quotes/pre-album marketing/etc. is tied in with this--especially with Edge's (if he really said anything) recent (or not-so-recent) comments.
Me neither
Exactly...Screwtape, did you read this? So your theory that this is a sign that U2 is "winding down" is complete bullshit. Agreed?
U2 has released great albums during and not too long after tours. TUF was released just 9 months after the War Tour ended. TJT was released just 19 months after the band's last festival on TUF Tour. Zooropa was released during ZooTV. Passengers two years after that. Pop two years after that.
Here's a possibility:
Maybe U2 wants to minimize the chance of the album leaking by giving fans a month to get hold of the album, versus the usual three? There are many positives to this "new" "Hey guys, our album is coming out next week: check it out!" style of marketing. In Rainbows didn't leak, I'm telling you that much.
so....?
I'm just trying to tell you that your theory that the band is "winding down" is complete bullshit based on what you have mentioned in support of this theory.
Here's a possibility:
Maybe U2 wants to minimize the chance of the album leaking by giving fans a month to get hold of the album, versus the usual three? There are many positives to this "new" "Hey guys, our album is coming out next week: check it out!" style of marketing. In Rainbows didn't leak, I'm telling you that much.
And if Radiohead can keep a secret from the world, it should be possible for U2.
And if Radiohead can keep a secret from the world, it should be possible for U2.
Guys, guys. The album is coming out in 76 days:
MakeCountdowns.com - NO LINE ON THE HORIZON
The Countdown never lies. Book it.
It's red and black, so you know it was created by the U2.com webmasters.
Well, he didn't have any when he joined the band...he just had passion and a pretty unique and decent voice. Has much really changed? You could hardly describe what he does as guitar-playing and he has taken a couple beginner's piano lessons this decade. He does play a mean harmonica. But come on, he's been in a band for 30 years. He probably is the most musically-challenged of anyone who could lay claim to that. Which is perhaps a good thing (after all, Johnny Greenwood refuses to let Thom Yorke learn how to read music...he thinks is will mess up his unique approach and abilities).
I'm still betting on 2008. Unless we have no info within the next couple weeks, especially with the RED and iPod events coming up. I definitely agree with everyone who says U2 is probably trying to surprise us more with this album. Bloc Party did a similar thing - they released Mercury as a single and said they were unsure if it would be on the album or not. Then a couple weeks later they announced the album. Three days later it was available for digital download. U2's much bigger than Bloc so I doubt they could keep something quite that secret, but as others said, Radiohead did a fine job of it. Of course, Radiohead didn't have a record label, so there's that.
Anyway, right now I just don't see a case for 2009 other than lack of information. Pretty much all the information we do have points to 2008. I'd say, wait and see what happens this month before you despair and assume 2009. If we hear nothing then I'll agree.
I just hope, after reading almost all of this thread, that I don't have 20 email alerts tomorrow telling me "rumor has it!! U2 not happy with tracks, release scheduled for 2009" from "a reputable source" like a contactmusic person who has read this thread.
That happens you know.
Here's another clue that points to 2008, from the September 4, 2008 edition of Rolling Stone (page 16): "Retailers expect U2, Eminem and Beyonce for Thanksgiving week, though Eminem's label, Interscope, wouldn't confirm the release." This implies (to me) that U2's label WOULD confirm the release, and that we're looking at November 25, 2008 as release date. Any takers?
Bono actually has a terrific musical mind. It doesn't matter if he's playing any instument well or even if he can or can't sing well. He has musical ideas and as long as he can explain them to the others he contributes a great deal to the quality of the songs as a whole. (I'm not saying the others don't have ideas, this is only about Bono's.)
Bono and Edge have stated this many times in interviews and documentaries over the years and it even shows in the recently posted clips at U2.com when he shouts instructions.