Cactus Annie
Refugee
I thought Desire was a blues track and Angel Of Harlem was Gospel.
What's wrong with pop music anyway?
What's wrong with pop music anyway?
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Cactus Annie
Refugee
I am not a fan of Justin Bieber music but pop music is an extremely broad genre. I like Annie Lennox, Madonna and dance music just name a few. When U2 do pop they are good in my opinion.
The Panther
Refugee
'Desire' is a not a blues. While blues need not be strictly 12-bar or 16-bar songs with bent notes, I don't think even the loosest definitions would include something like 'Desire'.
I personally think of Gospel as a 'content'-term, not a musical one, and as such 'Angel of Harlem' is not a gospel song (although dozens of U2 songs are, at least in a general sense). But I suppose it depends on your interpretation of the lyrics. In some sense, U2 are a gospel group.
Cactus Annie
Refugee
Yeah. I shall call Angel Of Harlem a gospel track. Desire is Bluesy. I've just discovered that I like the Blues. I think Red Hill Mining Town has a bluesy sound to it and it's one of my favourite tracks on JT.
The Panther
Refugee
Fair enough. They dedicated it to Billie Holiday, and it references a loose assortment of New York-area black performers. But I don't disagree with you because I think nearly every U2 song is a gospel song (okay maybe not "Numb").
It could be said to be "bluesy" in texture, but I think of it as an homage to early rock'n'roll. Obviously, it's using the "Bo Diddley beat".
Good for you -- blues constitutes the richest vein of any folk music I know of. There's such a range of stuff, and often expressed in such a simple musical structure. (Not sure about "Red Hill Mining Town", though -- that's about as un-blues as guitar music can get! Sure is a great song, though!)
Cactus Annie
Refugee
Rock 'n' Roll came from the Blues. Rock'n'Roll used to be called the jump blues. I don't think it really matters what category the songs fall into as long as you like them.
Gonna Run 2 U
New Yorker
I really wouldnt mind if U2 did a "dance song" for their first single. They always say when you hear a U2 song it clears the dance floor. They havent made that song yet where the 20 somethings are out at the club and dance to it. I say go for it.
As much as the Adele song "someone like you" annoys me the "dance" version is still kinda cool. Semi-deep borderline cheezy lyrics to a synthesized dance groove with edge guitar - Im on board.
As much as the Adele song "someone like you" annoys me the "dance" version is still kinda cool. Semi-deep borderline cheezy lyrics to a synthesized dance groove with edge guitar - Im on board.
Globo14
Refugee
Gonna Run 2 U
New Yorker
Never thought I would say that either but at this point I dont care. I just want some new U2.
Globo14
Refugee
I also want new U2, but I also don't want any mediocre middle-of-the-road songs that they slapped together.
Never thought I would say that either but at this point I dont care. I just want some new U2.
lazarus
Blue Crack Supplier
Angel of Harlem has more of a Stax/Volt southern soul sound than gospel. Don't really associate a horn section with church music.
Not sure if U2 really has any legit blues-sounding songs, though I imagine if you stripped the atmospherics out of Bullet The Blue Sky it might classify. I can certainly imagine some old blues guy belting out that vocal.
Cactus Annie
Refugee
No.
What about the dance tracks on Pop?
They tried with MW, and Discotheque and moreso Mofo. (making a dance song). Not sure they could legitimately do it at 50, either. Magnificent aka French Disco certainly didn't do it.
Some of the remixes do it though. (LWSH extended mix, MW remixes, EBTTRT Perfecto remix)
Would The fly, slowed down a bit and taking off the effects, count as a blues song (and given the "phone call from Hell" description of the lyrics) ? Flanagan calls it a blues song in his book.
Some of the remixes do it though. (LWSH extended mix, MW remixes, EBTTRT Perfecto remix)
Would The fly, slowed down a bit and taking off the effects, count as a blues song (and given the "phone call from Hell" description of the lyrics) ? Flanagan calls it a blues song in his book.
Cactus Annie
Refugee
I don't know what age has to do with making a dance song. You do know that a lot of top DJ's are in their 40's and 50's. Dance music exploded in the late 80's. Unless you're talking about modern dance tracks, which I don't think are as good as the 90's and early 00's.
The remixes are all remixed by top dance producers. The Perfecto remixes were done by Paul Oakenfied who must be around the same age as U2, and who still makes dance music.
That's a bit of interesting food for thought
Globo14
Refugee
Don't care for 'em.
Cactus Annie
Refugee
Yeah but U2 could work with Paul Oakenfield again. I agree that Pop didn't have the best dance tracks ever. I think U2's best dance track was EBTTRT which was the re-working of Oakenfield
I love dance music.
I love dance music.
Globo14
Refugee
Cactus Annie said:
And I respectfully disagree. I love U2 the rock band, but not U2 the dance band. To each his or her own.
Registered Dude
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
there's a country-fied blues version of the Fly floating around somewhere.. just Bono on acoustic I think. no joke.
Cactus Annie
Refugee
^ Great
Globo14
Refugee
corianderstem
Blue Crack Distributor
Whoa, that is WILD. Good find!
Chill Mike D
War Child
No U2 songs are Blues songs, and none are Gospel songs. None of them are even close.
schnumi
Refugee
Dear god what a terrible version of the fly, it needs to be electric people come on!
Globo14
Refugee
schnumi said:
No one said it was better...
It was just Bono messing around with an acoustic. It's not like it was performed over the electric version in front of tens of thousands of people.
lazarus
Blue Crack Supplier
Yeah, great call.
If that acoustic version posted above was slower, it would definitely fit into that category.
corianderstem
Blue Crack Distributor
The way Bono plays it for a bit in From the Sky Down would fit into that.
