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Thank you for clarifying...
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Thank you for clarifying...
Hey now that I turned 40 two weeks or so ago, I really feel close to you.
Do you want doctors to have the right not to perform plastic surgery on young girls because they're uncomfortable performing the surgery for reasons of conscience?
This isn't a black and white case. No doctor should be allowed to decide to harm (or allow harm to come to) a patient because of an issue of conscience, but if its not a life/death issue there is more room for discussion.
This ruling is bullshit. Plain and simple. There are enough doctors out there (especially in the United States!!!) that if a few don't want to do a procedure the patient can always find a doctor who will do it. If the facist section of the leftwing had it's way this law would apply to abortion as well. Granted, I still think the doctors in this case are boobs, but what about a law like this pertaining to abortion. The government cannot force a doctor to perform an abortion if he/she does not believe in it...can they????
This ruling is bullshit. Plain and simple. There are enough doctors out there (especially in the United States!!!) that if a few don't want to do a procedure the patient can always find a doctor who will do it. If the facist section of the leftwing had it's way this law would apply to abortion as well. Granted, I still think the doctors in this case are boobs, but what about a law like this pertaining to abortion. The government cannot force a doctor to perform an abortion if he/she does not believe in it...can they????
This ruling is bullshit. Plain and simple. There are enough doctors out there (especially in the United States!!!) that if a few don't want to do a procedure the patient can always find a doctor who will do it.
If the doctor doesn't believe in insemination then they can go and be an orthopedic surgeon.
This ruling is bullshit. Plain and simple. There are enough doctors out there (especially in the United States!!!) that if a few don't want to do a procedure the patient can always find a doctor who will do it. If the facist section of the leftwing had it's way this law would apply to abortion as well. Granted, I still think the doctors in this case are boobs, but what about a law like this pertaining to abortion. The government cannot force a doctor to perform an abortion if he/she does not believe in it...can they????
What is your experience with California state discrimination law? Which section of the law do you think was misapplied?
You aren't just rejecting this court's ruling because you disagree with the result, right?
Apparently reading the actual case is superfluous.
In reading the info in the original post I got that the legal basis for the judgement has nothing to do with the defendants in the case being doctors or even that what they were selling were medical procedures, but that they are operating a business and as such are not allowed to discriminate based on sexual orientation. It is legally the same as if she went into her local deli and ordered a sandwich. The deli could not refuse to serve her because she is a lesbian.
In reading the info in the original post I got that the legal basis for the judgement has nothing to do with the defendants in the case being doctors or even that what they were selling were medical procedures, but that they are operating a business and as such are not allowed to discriminate based on sexual orientation. It is legally the same as if she went into her local deli and ordered a sandwich. The deli could not refuse to serve her because she is a lesbian.
Is "No shoes, no shirt, no service" discriminatory? Is it illegal? Can you discriminate against someone because they're not holding to what some would say is an arbitrary standard set by the business? Is it illegal for a business to reserve the right to refuse service? I'm intrigued to know what people think these lines should be.
Then presumably it's okay to discriminate against people on the basis of what they believe?
Is "No shoes, no shirt, no service" discriminatory?
Then presumably it's okay to discriminate against people on the basis of what they believe?
There is quite a difference between discriminating against someone based on what they're wearing (or not wearing) and discriminating against someone based on who they are or any other area that the subject has no control over.
Businesses reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. Discriminatory or not?
Discriminating on the basis of race - wrong.How so? How does one presume this from this thread?
Businesses reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. Discriminatory or not?
Discriminating on the basis of race - wrong.
Discriminating on the basis of gender - wrong.
Discriminating on the basis of sexuality - wrong.
Discriminating on the basis of ideas - alright.
I think that discrimination should be protected under certain situations, namely when it involves ideas that one has a problem with. I presumed that Diemens comment encompassed the first three examples, however the latter one is not an innate quality, and consequently it should be alright to practice some discrimination on the basis of that.
Would you discriminate against a potential employee that was a skinhead, or a religious bigot that wouldn't serve gays or lesbians?
The example of the doctor is complicated by the fact that he is licensed by the state (as are pharmacists) which does have an obligation to taxpayers not to discriminate, but if he was a plumber or an accountant that didn't want to give his service to people he finds morally disagreeable do you think he should be allowed to?
Unless the patient is in a small town.
Good thing the docs in Canada can't refuse to treat over-reacting conspriracy theorists who really dislike assertive women.
You'd be fucked.
Geez. I thought you bitter assertive Hillary supporters wouldn't resurface on a thread that has nothing at all to do with politics. You never cease to amaze...or disgust me.