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The film list for my Japanese Cinema course is out, so I'd like to hear some of your opinions:

Rashomon is one of the best films ever made.
Ikiru is overrated, but still great.
Ugetsu is also overrated, but only because it's not actually, like, THE best film ever made. It's just one of them.
Tokyo Story is nearly as perfect as a film can get.
An Actor's Revenge is good.
Cruel Story of Youth is awfully melodramatic, I think.
The Pornographers is a film I've not seen.
Woman in the Dunes is either stunning or laughable, depending on your taste.
Tampopo is the best Western of the last 50 years.
Hana-Bi is the best of Kitano's films, even if it accidentally underscores what an unimaginative composer Hisaishi is. Great movie. Too bad he couldn't be this good and un-cloying, in the future.
Akira is retarded and awesome. It is awesome because it is so retarded.
Princess Mononoke is stunning.
Pulse is a film I've not seen.
 
Tokyo Story may be "perfect" for what it is, but I'll take the artistic ambition of Ugetsu any day of the week. Ozu captures that specific society in that time period as good as one possibly could, whereas the dreamscape of the past Mizoguchi conjures up is just something out of this world.

Ironically, "The Pornographers" is one of the two films Shouter HASN'T seen. Probably not deviant enough.
 
Oh, come on, I loved it.

First of all, when I think about it, the work of the Coens might be my favorite gathering of films made in my time outside of Scorcese.

I just like some of the questions it raised, loved how it gave you a fantastic sense of time and place...... Michael Stuhlbarg was fantastic, etc. It was perfectly dark and funny, just great.

The Judaica, of course, served to make it even more interesting to me, but, even if I were not of that background I would have liked it. Maybe I'd have missed a joke or two, though. :)
 
Well, I don't have a gun, and unlike many of my friends, I don't plan on getting a concealed handgun license. But the rootin'-tootin' qualities of my personality are undeniable.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAW!

First of all, when I think about it, the work of the Coens might be my favorite gathering of films made in my time outside of Scorcese.

Couldn't agree more, honestly. The Coens, Wes and PT Anderson, and Scorcese just about take the proverbial cake for me.
 
Oh, come on, I loved it.

First of all, when I think about it, the work of the Coens might be my favorite gathering of films made in my time outside of Scorcese.

I just like some of the questions it raised, loved how it gave you a fantastic sense of time and place...... Michael Stuhlbarg was fantastic, etc. It was perfectly dark and funny, just great.

The Judaica, of course, served to make it even more interesting to me, but, even if I were not of that background I would have liked it. Maybe I'd have missed a joke or two, though. :)

Yeah, even the prolific work of THE BERGH! kind of pales in comparison to the output of The Coens these last 20 years.

I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not I like this better than No Country. One is just so clinically perfect, the other so balls-out insane.
 
We still need to cast Joey Zaza, and upon doing that, only refer to them as Zaza.

I enjoyed A Serious Man more and may give it a edge because it's an original work and feels like a perfect summation of a lot of themes they've expressed throughout their films. No Country is a masterwork. I have to watch it again before next Monday for my Coens class. That, O Brother, and Lebowski are required viewings, I think we watch Barton Fink and Raising Arizona in class, then get to pick one to watch at the end of the semester. My vote's for either Miller's Crossing or A Serious Man.
 
Yeah, even the prolific work of THE BERGH! kind of pales in comparison to the output of The Coens these last 20 years.

I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not I like this better than No Country. One is just so clinically perfect, the other so balls-out insane.

I think that No Country, Lebowski and this one form my top 3 for the Coens....but, I love Barton Fink and Fargo and Miller's Crossing, and more.

Putting quantity aside, and in no order, my favorite directors working mostly since after I was born (I'm sure I'll forget someone cos this is just off the top of my head):

Copploa
Scorcese
Coens
Tarantino
Paul Thomas Anderson
The Bergh!
Malick
Kubrick
Spielberg (sorry Laz)
Fincher (sorry Lance)


Miyazaki and WKW probably will be on this list once I've seen a few more of their films.

I was excited about David Gordon Green's career but now he's hooked on doing stoner films.

And of course, I'm a film lover, not a film expert, so I'm sure there are horrid omissions here but this represents what I've seen, not what I should have seen or what I just didn't appreciate.
 
I can't say the Coens are anywhere near my top working directors list right now, and certainly not Scorsese, but it's hard for me to deny their talent or place in the books. As for The Coens, my top three agrees nicely with The JEW's. No Country and Lebowski respectively just above A Serious Man though.
 
Now I'm thinking of directors within my lifetime and that's kind of tough. I guess the Coens can be grandfathered in there since the bulk of their films have been released '91 and after. PT and Wes Anderson factor in, same with Fincher, Nolan, Tarantino, and Soderbergh. Probably Mann as well, but I'd have to leave out Thief and Manhunter, sadly. Rian Johnson would be on there if he has a stellar 3rd film.
 
True story, while I was watching A Serious Man, I thought to myself, "I wish NSW was here, as I need someone to translate all this Jew talk."

Then I remembered that he probably would have charged me a few thousand dollars for translating 5 or 6 words, and changed my mind.


Coens would be extremely high on my list as well. You know, if I had the ability to make lists.
 
Actually, nevermind. It looks like it was a favorite for several people off the bat, Scumbo and GAF included.

I still like it...aside from the lyrics. For some reason I can easily tune Banno out though, so I get why others who can't do this likely hate it.

I agree that the Nerdy Erectors thing is fantastic.
 
People's Choice Awards tonight. It's consistently the most embarrassingly awful awards show of the season. I'm totally gonna watch the whole thing!
 
I enjoyed A Serious Man more and may give it a edge because it's an original work and feels like a perfect summation of a lot of themes they've expressed throughout their films. No Country is a masterwork. I have to watch it again before next Monday for my Coens class. That, O Brother, and Lebowski are required viewings, I think we watch Barton Fink and Raising Arizona in class, then get to pick one to watch at the end of the semester. My vote's for either Miller's Crossing or A Serious Man.

Agreed with your assessment re: A Serious Man, which is ultimately why I would probably wind up rating it higher.

As for the end-of-semester film, how about The Man Who Wasn't There? From a directing perspective it's a tour-de-force.
 
Agreed with your assessment re: A Serious Man, which is ultimately why I would probably wind up rating it higher.

As for the end-of-semester film, how about The Man Who Wasn't There? From a directing perspective it's a tour-de-force.

That's a great choice, too, but I think I'd have a better chance rallying people around the other two films. I'll rewatch it some time during the semester; I have to pick a film outside of the three major ones to do a research paper on and those were the three I'd consider.
 
That's a great choice, too, but I think I'd have a better chance rallying people around the other two films. I'll rewatch it some time during the semester; I have to pick a film outside of the three major ones to do a research paper on and those were the three I'd consider.
Screw that, do it on Burn After Reading so you can discuss the symbolism of Clooney's "gift to his wife" in great detail.
 
Clooney's fuckchair is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. If only it made an appearance in The Lovely Bones.
 
Fear does not exist in this religion, does it?

No rabbi!

Pain does not exist in this religion, does it?

No rabbi!

Defeat does not exist in this religion, does it?

No rabbi!

Cobra Kkhhhhhhhhhai*


*I have no idea how to write the Hebrew phlegm sound
 
Does Lady Killers suck as bad as one of my friends says it does? I've still never seen it, and he seems to hate everything about it.
 
I'd heard Lady Killers sucked something horrible, but I didn't think it was nearly as bad as I'd heard. I rather liked it ... although now I can't remember much about it.
 
The consensus seems to be that it's a mediocre film/terrible Coens film. I haven't seen it yet.
 
That's a great choice, too, but I think I'd have a better chance rallying people around the other two films. I'll rewatch it some time during the semester; I have to pick a film outside of the three major ones to do a research paper on and those were the three I'd consider.

But my suggestion has Scarlett Johansson OMG!

To be honest, I think there's a lot more going on in TMWWT than in Miller's Crossing, which is great, but a little too dependent on its Dashiell Hammett origins. TMWWT film frees itself from the noir trappings and turns out to be something just as existential as A Serious Man (the uncertainty principle isn't just a device that is used for laughs) with what is perhaps their most moving ending. From a character standpoint, I'd also argue that Ed Crane is a much more fascinating portrait than Gabriel Byrne's Tom.
 
Cobra Kkhhhhhhhhhai*


*I have no idea how to write the Hebrew phlegm sound

Cobra L'Chhhhhhhhhhhhaim?

Does Lady Killers suck as bad as one of my friends says it does? I've still never seen it, and he seems to hate everything about it.

Yes.

The consensus seems to be that it's a mediocre film/terrible Coens film. I haven't seen it yet.

From a visual standpoint, I'd rate it slightly above Intolerable Cruelty. But the difference between the two is that the latter is actually a pretty funny film, whereas The Ladykillers just falls flat for the most part.

Clooney is only slightly less goofier in IC than he is in O' Brother, which is still pretty damned goofy. CZJ is also spot-on, and a few of the supporting players (like the foreign doctor, the wheezy hitman) are memorable. On the flipside, Tom Hanks gives it a go in The Ladykillers, but he's a bit too preening. Not even J.K. Simmons could save that mess. It's sad that the best scenes in the film are the gospel performances in the church.
 
But my suggestion has Scarlett Johansson OMG!

To be honest, I think there's a lot more going on in TMWWT than in Miller's Crossing, which is great, but a little too dependent on its Dashiell Hammett origins. TMWWT film frees itself from the noir trappings and turns out to be something just as existential as A Serious Man (the uncertainty principle isn't just a device that is used for laughs) with what is perhaps their most moving ending. From a character standpoint, I'd also argue that Ed Crane is a much more fascinating portrait than Gabriel Byrne's Tom.

I'll agree with you on both points. To be fair, I've only seen TMWWT once and Miller's twice, and found the latter to be the more satisfying film, albeit not as abstract. The scene where Leo unloads on his would-be assassins is probably my favorite non-Lebowski scene in the Coen canon. If there's a film that deserves to be re-watched, it's TMWWT, and I'd rank it in that upper-echelon of their work anyway for the reasons that you've mentioned and then some, Deakins' photography most particularly.

Cobra L'Chhhhhhhhhhhhaim?



Yes.



From a visual standpoint, I'd rate it slightly above Intolerable Cruelty. But the difference between the two is that the latter is actually a pretty funny film, whereas The Ladykillers just falls flat for the most part.

Clooney is only slightly less goofier in IC than he is in O' Brother, which is still pretty damned goofy. CZJ is also spot-on, and a few of the supporting players (like the foreign doctor, the wheezy hitman) are memorable. On the flipside, Tom Hanks gives it a go in The Ladykillers, but he's a bit too preening. Not even J.K. Simmons could save that mess. It's sad that the best scenes in the film are the gospel performances in the church.

Good to know.

Awesome news: At the screening of Basterds at my school, I answered a trivia question right and won this poster:

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Bad news: Not only was the movie not a film print, but it was fucking cropped to 1.85. WTF!
 
That's fucked up, but worth it to get the poster. What was the trivia question?

Also, that Miller's Crossing scene you mentioned is definitely one of their best, with the phonograph playing in the background, and the machine gun riddling the chandelier with bullets? YES.
 
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