sorry mods about the off-topic, don't merge, will fix at the end
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Your understanding of science seems fairly narrow(.....)That's just crap.
Calm down, "theory", yeesh, it's just an opinion, that I am not alone in, arrogant as you may feel it is, theistic evolution is viewed by some Christians as a "sell-out" or a "cop-out." If you accept the literal 6 day creation, and yeah, I do, others do, than where does evolution fit in? It doesn't. It's irrelevant.
Where did you get your concept of time? What is time? What is a day? What is a year?
How old are you? 20-30 something years old, or 20-30 million years old.
If the Earth is over 100 million years old or whatever, that millions of years is based on what? The 24 hour day cycle?
Why do I believe in the 6 literal days, you and other people think stupid to believe? I bleeding live by it, every
day of my life. My whole concept of "time" is based on the literal Biblical interpretation on what a "day" is. It's also based on the rotations of Earth. Stated in the Bible that the Earth rotates. That's what I base my concept of a day on. Many people agree on this concept of what a day is.
If I am to believe the word "day" is a metaphor for an undetermined amount of time, than what exactly is a day?
If a "day" can be a million years, how do I know that a millions years, is not a billion years? If I went on TV and claimed that I am 30 million years old, I would be laughed right off, why? Because it's been accepted that generally year is a based on 365, 24-hour days, based on Earth's rotations. With the exception of leap years.
Unless you live in a society that doesn't follow the 24 hours is a day, 7 days makes a week, 52 weeks makes a year, etc. There are cultures that are on a different calendar to "Western" societies, but I don't think you live in one.
The verse about 1 day to us is like 1000 days to God and vise-versa, is explaining an aspect about God, that God is not subjected to what we as humans know as "time." My calendar says that it is June 16, 2007. Imagine you could see everything that happened yesterday, today, 100 years ago, and 30 years from now, all at the same instance. That's what the verse is attempting to explain, we are subject to this concept known as time, but God is not.
You are arrogant to say "The reason you'll never find anyone who knows anything about science buy into the metaphor of a 6 day creation is that there is too much evidence to prove it wrong."
1. To claim it is metaphor. Not everyone believes it's a metaphor.
2. I got an A in high school and college level biology, I got an A in physical science, B in chemistry. I enjoyed my science classes, how amazing DNA is, how so many things work, photosynthesis, but I view it as proof of an intelligent powerful being who could create such things, but not via a process that happened slowly over millions of years. The faster it took to make the world, the more powerful a being. Yet the being isn't even bound by time, even more powerful.
What evidence, oh right, you were around when the world began, got it. You saw first hand just how life began. By faith I accept God created the world, as stated in the Bible, even though I didn't see it, nor know anyone who saw it. By faith, you believe it happened in some other way, even though you didn't see it or know someone who saw it.
Proof=visual right? Abraham Lincoln is real person, people saw him, they wrote about him, those stories of him got past down, but started by eyewitnesses. You can't possibly tell me there were eyewitnesses who saw a one-celled organism over millions of years become dinosaurs, horses, fish, insects, and humans.
This evidence, have you actually seen it for yourself, first hand? Not in a book, not in a video, with your own eyes, saw it? You must know of "missing link" fossils found, that were maybe 10% bone, and 90% artistic license. A pig's tooth was found as the only fossil to prove an alleged missing link one time. The spotted moths in England, only a change in number, and the moths were still moths, they didn't turn into birds. Some people actually glued moths to trees when it was later found that the moths actually try to hide in a tree branches and leaves.
Forget this, I wasted 2 hours of my life I will never get back reading a similar thread in Free Your Mind, I know the responses, know where the discussion will go, on both sides.
There's a 30 page thread on another forum on bass playing with a plectrum vs. fingers, now that's the kind of discussion, that will actually have some good come from it.
Sorry mods, I know my post had nothing to do with U2...will fix that. Don't merge it yet.
From a couple interviews I've read, it seems Adam does believe in God. Probably doesn't really think about, maybe accepts the notion God is behind the creation of life but the mechanics of how it happened, not really on his mind, as he has more music related things like when he will take a trip to Chicago to get his new gold Darryl Jones Lakeland bass with abelone blocks. Maybe he did pick it up...ooh new bass for a new album, sweet!
My guess is that Larry probably doesn't think about 6-day creation/theistic evolution discussion at all, he was raised Catholic, probably knows the basic gist of the creation story, but when it boils down to it, God is the creator of life. Leave the fighting to people who should focus on other things like writing letters to politicians so Bono can get back in the studio.
Right you are Larry.
Someone should ask him sometime.
No...not sure which translation you're using, but the Hebrew there is just the verb for 'to fill'; it is a somewhat broader term than the English, and can also convey 'to fulfill' or 'to complete', but there's no 're-' concept associated with it.
