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Bono: “Songs of Ascent” is a reflective, lyrical album, very different from the unreasonable guitar record, which is not to say they might not end up mating. We didn’t want to put either album out before we could play live, so we were waiting for our drummer to heal.





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“We don’t have enough rock songs even though it has been 6 years since our last album”
 
I really enjoyed that interview.

Reading just a bit between the lines, we do have a Larry Problem.

Also, worried we might get an SOA with three unreasonable rock songs.
 
Bono: “Songs of Ascent” is a reflective, lyrical album, very different from the unreasonable guitar record, which is not to say they might not end up mating. We didn’t want to put either album out before we could play live, so we were waiting for our drummer to heal.





:doh::|
Let the back tracking begin. [emoji53]
 
People chill. Larry was in for Vegas until literally days or hours before the announcement. Album to tour gaps are often 3-5 months. Possibly out this year, likely early next.
 
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2023/0315/1363475-the-edge-talks-bono-vegas-and-songs-of-surrender/

The Edge talks Bono, Vegas and Songs of Surrender
Updated / Wednesday, 15 Mar 2023 20:36

U2 guitarist The Edge has described his lifelong friend and band leader Bono as "like everyone. A mixture of good and some aspects not the best."

Speaking to Ryan Tubridy on RTÉ Radio 1 on Wednesday morning, he said, "That's what makes him so amazing. The intent is always positive and from the get-go in our band, we always decided to look out for each other and the friendship and success we’ve had is largely down to a culture of mutual support."

He added, "That kind of loyalty is rare enough. There is a quote that would represent the opposite of us. It’s from Gore Vidal and he said `it’s not enough that you enjoy success, what’s important is that your friends also fail.’

"We are all about each other succeeding and we are there for each other."

The Edge was speaking ahead of the release of U2's latest album, Songs of Surrender, and the Bono and The Edge: A Sort of Homecoming, With Dave Letterman special on Disney+, which are both out this Friday.

Songs of Surrender sees the veteran band revisit and re-record forty of their songs, ranging from their earliest work in 1979 to more recent tracks and the guitarist said it was a chance to breath new life into some classic U2 moments.

"There is something about songs to me that are gifts," he said. "They arrive and there’s something mysterious and magical. If you talk to any songwriter, they’ll explain it in the same way.

"This thing exists that didn’t exist before and they have this power, if they’re good enough, to become part of people’s lives, not just the people who wrote them and in this case, me and Bono have had this longstanding belief that with some of our early recordings we were just way wound up, we were intense young men trying to prove ourselves and get our music across and the music reflected that."

Describing the new album as a "bit of an experiment during lockdown, he added, "Listening back, we thought wow, we could probably do this in a different way that would make the songs shine, not just as new recordings but as pure songs that would not eclipse the previous recordings because they’re classic. We’re not taking those away but just to give a different slant and a different dimension to them."

He said that the band have always reworked certain songs when they play them live.


"We’ve seen in work on a couple of classics when we play them live, like Every Breaking Wave or Staring At The Sun, which ended up becoming iconic in their stripped-down version so the theory was could we do that to a song like Bad or Pride?

"I tried to see where it might lead us and that was the great discovery when Bono starting singing them, that, yes, a great song is indestructible.

"You can play it in different ways and play it in a different style, it’s still the same song in essence but you might understand it in a different way and that’s what Songs Of Surrender is about. People might fall in love with these songs all over again. That’s what they mean to us."

"Walk On we rewrote with a nod to Ukraine because that’s what’s happening now in our life that we feel needs a spotlight or Stories For Boys we wrote when we were boys and singing it now without reviewing the lyric would have felt quite odd and we rewrote it about the boys we were back then and what kind of characters we were when we were just starting out."

Asked if re-recording their old songs had given the band a sense of their own mortality or whether it was a happy and wistful experience, he said, "It’s both, I think and that’s the beautiful thing about music.

"You can hold contrasting ideas in your head at the same time so with Stories For Boys there is an awe about the power or youth but also a pathos about looking back.

"City of Blinding Lights, which is usually a full-bore celebratory rock song, but the new version has a lot of self-doubt and a more vulnerable emotion to it and that makes it really interesting."

The band are set to begin a residency at new venue The Sphere in Vegas later this year and they will be the first U2 shows without drummer Larry Mullen since 1978 when he broke his foot in a motorbike accident.

Speaking about Vegas, The Edge said, "First of all, the attraction is the venue. I don’t think we’d be playing in Vegas if it was a regular residency. This is a state of the art venue the likes of which doesn’t exist anywhere else in the world. In terms of design, it’s light years ahead in terms of design and technology.

"It’s 18,000 to 20,000 people so it’s fairly substantial in size and why it’s appealing to us is that it’s a combination of sound and pictures that is a canvas for us that we are dying to get our hands on.

"The sound quality will be phenomenal because it’s purpose built for audio and the size of this canvas is huge, it’s a 120,000 square feet LED screen inside and there’s also another screen on the outside of the building which we will get to play with from time to time so it gives us the chance do to the kind of show that’s never been done.

"That’s the thing that always gets U2 excited, that we’re breaking new ground, that we’re finding a new way to present our music to our fans that marries great audio with the live experience and add another layer of experience to the songs."
 
We haven’t put tickets on sale because we don’t know yet that we can fulfill the potential of the place. Edge has gone in there with his hard hat — and his hard head — and so far, the results are good.

PUT THE TICKETS ON SALE YA JERKS.

thus ends my Ted Talk
 
PUT THE TICKETS ON SALE YA JERKS.

thus ends my Ted Talk



Funny thing, today The Cure put their tour onsale. Didn’t use any dynamic or platinum pricing. They limited transfers so any resale was Face Value only. And the ticket prices were in the completely normal realm. Something like $20-$200 across a slew of venues, after fees. I saw roughly $80ish-$200 in New York but even that seems low against what a lot of MSG concerts are set as. You could say there were enough pricing tiers for most people. U2 could do the same if they really wanted to. But this is a specialty venue so I expect some platinum/VIP stuff. Would be great for the rest to be non-dynamic and reasonably priced (last tours topped out at $280ish?)
 
did you see that tickets were 20 bucks but fees were like 2.5 times that?
 
Funny thing, today The Cure put their tour onsale. Didn’t use any dynamic or platinum pricing. They limited transfers so any resale was Face Value only. And the ticket prices were in the completely normal realm. Something like $20-$200 across a slew of venues, after fees. I saw roughly $80ish-$200 in New York but even that seems low against what a lot of MSG concerts are set as. You could say there were enough pricing tiers for most people. U2 could do the same if they really wanted to. But this is a specialty venue so I expect some platinum/VIP stuff. Would be great for the rest to be non-dynamic and reasonably priced (last tours topped out at $280ish?)

They are too big to do what The Cure did.

Are we really comparing The Cure to the biggest band in the world?
 
did you see that tickets were 20 bucks but fees were like 2.5 times that?



Fees are going to have a bottom end. Unfortunately that was probably $10, so equal to half the price of the $20 tix. When the ticketmaster and service fees hit, boom, double the price. I’ve seen TM fees on sliding scale of 20%-35% on top of ticket cost, but the only $20 tix I’ve bought on ticketmaster were on the “no-fee” days they run to sell leftover inventory for the summer ampitheater tours. Facility fees I can’t comment on.
 
They are too big to do what The Cure did.



Are we really comparing The Cure to the biggest band in the world?


You want bigger acts? Ok.
Garth Brooks has done similar. No dynamic, no platinum, one fixed price for an entire stadium (under $100).
Metallica offered half price tix for kids under 16 on their upcoming stadium tour.
 
Instead of tickets go on sale at 10am on a certain date... they say tickets go on sale sometime the week of --- give 7 day window and they could drop at 1am and if you get them first, you win.
 
You want bigger acts? Ok.
Garth Brooks has done similar. No dynamic, no platinum, one fixed price for an entire stadium (under $100).
Metallica offered half price tix for kids under 16 on their upcoming stadium tour.

At one time they both were huge and still are to some... but I don't recall people say "I can't get Garth or Metallica" tickets the last 30 years...

But more seriously, I would love if they just made it all one price so we could figure it out at least... 100 bucks a ticket... then when half of them sell out, it's 200 bucks... and then 300 bucks... and 400 bucks... whatever dumb thing they do with platinum.
 
Fingers crossed they use the PJ-esque request system they tried with the most recent round of U2.com subscriber access for Bono at the Beacon.

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How did that work? I got tickets the old fashion way before that offer came out.

Did you hit like 2 tickets for a price point? Or they said would you like to buy 2 tickets for 400bucks each?
 
How did that work? I got tickets the old fashion way before that offer came out.

Did you hit like 2 tickets for a price point? Or they said would you like to buy 2 tickets for 400bucks each?



Listed shows in order of priority.
Designated 1 or 2 tickets.
Chose section/price point (there may have been prioritization option in here as well but can’t remember. I know Pearl Jam lets you prioritize this part too)
 
Irony in Song


ChatGPT
Combine Ironic by Alanis Morrisette and Every Breaking Wave by U2 into one song

Verse 1:
An unexpected twist of fate
Life's little ironies, they frustrate
But in the end, they make us who we are
And we can't escape the scars

Pre-Chorus:
But every breaking wave on the shore
Is a reminder of what came before
And every crisis we endure
Makes us stronger, that's for sure

Chorus:
It's like rain on your wedding day
Or a free ride when you've already paid
Every breaking wave carries us away
Through the ironies of fate

Verse 2:
The things we want, they slip away
We grasp at them, they don't stay
But maybe what we need is something else
Something we can't see for ourselves

Pre-Chorus:
And every breaking wave on the shore
Is a reminder of what came before
And every crisis we endure
Makes us stronger, that's for sure

Chorus:
It's like rain on your wedding day
Or a free ride when you've already paid
Every breaking wave carries us away
Through the ironies of fate

Bridge:
We can't control the way things go
We can only control how we grow
So let's embrace the irony
And become who we're meant to be

Chorus:
It's like rain on your wedding day
Or a free ride when you've already paid
Every breaking wave carries us away
Through the ironies of fate
 
Bono: “Songs of Ascent” is a reflective, lyrical album, very different from the unreasonable guitar record, which is not to say they might not end up mating. We didn’t want to put either album out before we could play live, so we were waiting for our drummer to heal.


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Huh, that's an interesting statement. I'm less inclined to take it as these two albums will merge (I'm still getting the impression they plan for Songs of Ascent to be the final album they release), and more that they probably won't commit to an entire album of rock music, and will end up with the typical u2 album format of 1-2 rock songs, 2-3 pop tunes, and some slower/mid tempo stuff (some of which could currently be in the songs of ascent pile).
 
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