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MrsSpringsteen said:
Alex Jones


Mr Jones is a conspiracy-theorist who claimed Mr Trump was “being deliberately killed” with experimental drugs when he was treated for Covid at Walter Reed in 2020.


And he was not impressed with the former president’s stance on vaccinations.

“BS. Trump: That’s a lie, you’re not stupid. Just two weeks ago they said it was 65 per cent, then 40 per cent, saw a number put out about Pfizer shots, 30-something per cent,” Mr Jones told his Infowars audience on Monday.

“Because they just want to tell you it doesn’t work so you run and get the new damn shot. And then they’ll tell you in six months that one doesn’t work. It’s called rope-a-dope.”

And he added: “Shame on you, Trump. Seriously.

“Hey, if you don’t have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that’s okay.

“At least you’re going to get some good Republicans elected, and we like you. But, my God, maybe you’re not that bright. Maybe Trump’s actually a dumbass.”
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surely this reaction has nothing at all to do with the fact that he's making a killing selling a range of useless quack covid "treatments" (such as hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and that weird holy bleach-water shit) to stupid people on his website.
 
I’m so happy British Columbia is bringing back the mask mandates and even happier they are introducing a vaccine mandate and passport! I honestly did not think they had it in them! But at this point the unvaccinated can cry themselves to sleep for all I care! Soon enough no vaccine, no restaurant, no theatres, no fun for you. I only feel bad the the very few who genuinely can’t get the vaccine due to allergies etc. But for the rest of the unvaccinated fuckers……. You are going to have to stay home!
 
dabiggestu2fan said:
I’m so happy British Columbia is bringing back the mask mandates and even happier they are introducing a vaccine mandate and passport! I honestly did not think they had it in them! But at this point the unvaccinated can cry themselves to sleep for all I care! Soon enough no vaccine, no restaurant, no theatres, no fun for you. I only feel bad the the very few who genuinely can’t get the vaccine due to allergies etc. But for the rest of the unvaccinated fuckers……. You are going to have to stay home!
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Yes, let’s give it up for more mandates and sharing your personal health information with the public! I can’t wait for further government enforcement in our future lives after covid as well! Show me your papers!!! This sounds wonderful! Further government control and say in our lives. It’s brilliant!

I’m “jabbed” and I feel like I did my part, but if you guys don’t realize the other shit that’s going down around this you’re nuts.
 
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Sacrificing public health over a slippery slope argument is a no from me. There are plenty who agree with you though.
 
Gonna Run 2 U said:
Yes, let’s give it up for more mandates and sharing your personal health information with the public! I can’t wait for further government enforcement in our future lives after covid as well! Show me your papers!!! This sounds wonderful! Further government control and say in our lives. It’s brilliant!

I’m “jabbed” and I feel like I did my part, but if you guys don’t realize the other shit that’s going down around this you’re nuts.
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Well if you feel that way that’s fine. If you feel your government is controlling you, you are always free to move to any other country where they don’t have such rules. Also if people actually did their part and got the vaccine, there wouldn’t be a need for such measures. If you are so against government control, I guess you must be against wearing seatbelts, following traffic laws etc etc. After all that’s the government telling you what to do. But fuck it who needs laws and some type of control! I guess you much rather have a free for all. I would love to see how that all turns out!
 
Gonna Run 2 U said:
Yes, let’s give it up for more mandates and sharing your personal health information with the public! I can’t wait for further government enforcement in our future lives after covid as well! Show me your papers!!! This sounds wonderful! Further government control and say in our lives. It’s brilliant!

I’m “jabbed” and I feel like I did my part, but if you guys don’t realize the other shit that’s going down around this you’re nuts.
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Sharing your vaccine status is not exactly really sharing your personal health information. But if you are so worried about people or government tracking you or seeing your personal information, I’m sure that cell phone you are using to type these comments is a lot more effective than a vaccine mandate. Nice try though….
 
Gonna Run 2 U said:
Yes, let’s give it up for more mandates and sharing your personal health information with the public! I can’t wait for further government enforcement in our future lives after covid as well! Show me your papers!!! This sounds wonderful! Further government control and say in our lives. It’s brilliant!

I’m “jabbed” and I feel like I did my part, but if you guys don’t realize the other shit that’s going down around this you’re nuts.
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Curious what you mean by “the other shit” - if you’re suggesting there is some massive government conspiracy to get your data and make you do things, I think you’re giving way too much credit to Congress.

Not all “government control” is bad. Certain aspects of society need to be executed from the top down, and others from the ground up. Public health is a top down aspect.

I’m certainly on your side with “I did my part”, or as Bill Maher put it, “taking one for the team.” I alluded to that in another post. Everyone who has their vaccine took some very small risk for the greater good or for a societal duty to be able to get back to where we were.

You’re offended by the government telling you what to do. I’m offended by corporations telling you what to do, and by virtue the government telling you what to do. This talk of a third jab is extremely frustrating because it is most certainly rooted in profit motive.

People need vaccines to protect other people from the disease. It isn’t about your individual protection (e.g. the choice to get vaccinated or the choice to get a booster shot). It’s about attaining a threshold of the population that effectively protects the whole population. And clearly volunteerism failed. Time to start making public health suggestive on this matter. Indirect mandates.
 
Bruce Arians is laying down his own law about covid. I love how he said "especially living here", because that's just the truth.

ESPN

TAMPA, Fla. -- One day after Tampa Bay kicker Ryan Succop tested positive for COVID-19 after having dinner with members of the Tennessee Titans during joint practices, Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians said he's implementing his own rules outside the NFL's COVID-19 protocols.

In advance of their first road game this year -- the third preseason game, at the Houston Texans -- Arians said players won't be allowed to leave the team hotel or have family visit the hotel on road trips, even if vaccinated.

"For us, life is not normal," Arians said. "We're pretty much under the same protocols -- we're going to be under the same protocols as last year. Because that's the way it is, especially living here. Tennessee coming in and going out to dinner -- they found out the hard way. So did Ryan. You can only tell them so much. Once we get to 53 -- even this weekend -- our guys are going to make a bunch of sacrifices that you have to make now. Families at the hotel, all those things -- they're all out the window."

Succop was within NFL rules going out to dinner during joint practices because he was vaccinated. NFL rules state, "Fully vaccinated members of the Traveling Party will be permitted to leave the hotel to eat and/or use restaurants open to the public, subject to individual Club rules." Only unvaccinated team members are prohibited from eating at restaurants on the road. But Arians doesn't want his team taking chances, and has the leeway to implement them because it falls under "club rules."

"There's league rules and then there's my rules. We ain't going anywhere. We're the same as last year," Arians said. "I don't give a crap if they're vaccinated or not. They ain't going anywhere."
 
Gov Greg's got all mandates covered

Gov. Greg Abbott issued an executive order on Wednesday banning any state or local mandates requiring people to be vaccinated against COVID-19, and he called on Texas legislators to vote it into law during their current special session.

The move came as Texas reported the most COVID-19 patients in its hospitals since the pandemic began.

Abbott issued his ban in an executive order to fill a loophole left by the full authorization of the Pfizer vaccine. He had previously banned the requirement of vaccinations under emergency use authorizations. He also has banned state and local government mandates for wearing masks.
 
Not really surprising

Cases of COVID-19 have jumped up nearly sixfold in South Dakota in the two weeks following the annual Sturgis motorcycle rally.

Prior to the 10-day rally, which attracts thousands of people from across the Midwest for concerts and bar hopping in the state's Meade County, South Dakota was averaging around 50 new infections a day. In the two weeks since, cases are now up 152%, according to The New York Times, and on Aug. 24 the state reported 785 new infections.
 
NPR

A Florida judge has ruled that school districts in the state can require students to wear masks. At least 10 school districts — including some in many of the largest cities — had been defying state rules set by Gov. Ron DeSantis banning mask mandates.

Judge John Cooper ruled on a lawsuit brought by parents who say DeSantis overstepped his authority when his administration said school districts couldn't order students to wear masks. DeSantis had warned that "there will be consequences" for districts that defied the ban.

Ruling from the bench at the conclusion of a five-day trial, Cooper said that face mask mandates that follow guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are "reasonable and consistent with the best scientific and medical opinion in this country." He found that the DeSantis administration violated the law when it banned school districts from requiring masks.
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
Not really surprising

Cases of COVID-19 have jumped up nearly sixfold in South Dakota in the two weeks following the annual Sturgis motorcycle rally.

Prior to the 10-day rally, which attracts thousands of people from across the Midwest for concerts and bar hopping in the state's Meade County, South Dakota was averaging around 50 new infections a day. In the two weeks since, cases are now up 152%, according to The New York Times, and on Aug. 24 the state reported 785 new infections.
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https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2021/Senate/Maps/Aug27.html#item-2

Who Saw This Coming?

Besides everyone, that is. Well, everyone who is not part of the MAGA crowd. When you put a bunch of people in a limited space, largely without masks, and while a new variant of COVID is running wild, you are likely to get...wait for it...a whole bunch of sick people. You did not need our crystal ball to predict that.

There have been several proofs of concept unfolding this week. Well, apparent proofs of concept, because they tend to happen, not coincidentally, in places that don't believe in contact tracing. Last year, the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally went forward, and only some people died, so that was seen as a success. It also went forward this year, ending on Aug. 15. And whaddya know? A bit more than 10 days out, and the number of COVID cases in South Dakota (where the rally is held each year) has jumped a staggering 3,400%. And that, of course, does not include the folks who attended the rally and then took a "souvenir" case of disease home with them.

Then there is Iowa, a state that is nearly as laissez faire about public health as South Dakota is. There, the Iowa State Fair just concluded; it attracted over 1 million guests from August 11-22. And the COVID cases are already spiking, with a 25% increase in hospitalizations, and a trendline that is headed to scary places once the 10-12 day gestation period had elapsed. Nearly all of those hospitalized were not vaccinated, and the newly ill are disproportionately young, with 56% under the age of 40 and 17% under the age of 17.

And speaking of young people, the unhappiest news comes from the nation's schools. With the school year just underway in most places, 180,000 students tested positive for COVID last week (this week's numbers will surely be worse, once they are compiled); at least 90,000 have had to quarantine; more than 1,400 students have been hospitalized; and there have been at least a dozen deaths. The bulk of the sick students are in states hostile to masking/vaxxing, with Mississippi "leading" the way. The folks at Sturgis and the Iowa State Fair made their own beds, generally speaking. Schoolchildren, by contrast, often have little choice but to expose themselves to risk.

The next few months will reveal whether the suffering wrought by cavalier approaches to the pandemic will outweigh political considerations, owning the libs, "freedom," and other public-health-undermining attitudes. With Donald Trump somewhat sidelined these days, the two leaders (champions? capos? reapers?) of the "you can't tell us what to do" resistance are Govs. Greg Abbott (R-TX) and Ron DeSantis (R-FL). At the moment, they are employing rather different approaches to the messes they are helping to make for their states.

Abbott, for his part, is—for all intents and purposes—talking out both sides of his mouth. On one hand, his rhetoric continues to be focused on how this is 'murica, goddammit, and God-fearing Texans aren't going to yield their God-given freedoms just because of some annoying disease. On Wednesday, a day where the Lone Star State witnessed more than 23,000 new COVID diagnoses, he issued an executive order forbidding any government agency in Texas from imposing a vaccine mandate. Then, on Thursday, he announced that his administration was bringing in 2,500 healthcare workers from other states because, you know, the pandemic is spiraling out of control again, and Texas' healthcare system is overwhelmed.

DeSantis, meanwhile, has decided to try out a little gaslighting. Florida has about 20,000 new cases per day, and almost no ICU beds left. Even more grim, an average of 227 Floridians are dying each day from COVID, the highest number in the nation right now, the highest number the Sunshine State has seen, and a 613% increase from a week ago. So, naturally, the Governor went on Fox News to brag about his state's "great success" in fighting the pandemic, while also proposing that the Biden administration really ought to be following his lead. It certainly takes...well, something to go on TV and say that with a straight face. Host Jesse Watters did not challenge DeSantis because, you know, it's Fox.

Beyond that, what else is there to say? Maybe, despite the obvious turn for the worse, these "freedom first" folks don't mind dying on this hill, and their upwardly aspirational leaders will remain happy to make that possible. After all, once you take up residence in a cemetery, nobody ever again nags you about wearing a mask. (Z)
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From the article DaveC shared...

Then there is Iowa, a state that is nearly as laissez faire about public health as South Dakota is. There, the Iowa State Fair just concluded; it attracted over 1 million guests from August 11-22. And the COVID cases are already spiking, with a 25% increase in hospitalizations, and a trendline that is headed to scary places once the 10-12 day gestation period had elapsed. Nearly all of those hospitalized were not vaccinated, and the newly ill are disproportionately young, with 56% under the age of 40 and 17% under the age of 17.
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Why am I not surprised :|?

God, how I envy those of you who live in states that are being run by competent governors who actually give a damn about people's health. It sounds so nice...
 
Support our troops

The Hill.com

Daniel Wilkinson, 46, who served two deployments in Afghanistan, died last Sunday of gallstone pancreatitis, a treatable illness, after waiting hours for an ICU bed, KPRC reported.

Wilkinson's mother, Michelle Puget, rushed him to the local emergency room in Bellville, Texas, on Saturday after he started to feel sick. The doctor diagnosed Wilkinson with gallstone pancreatitis, which the Bellville Medical Center is not equipped to treat, the emergency physician who treated Wilkinson, Hasan Kakli, explained on "CBS This Morning."

Kakli determined that Wilkinson needed an ICU bed and a procedure to remove the gallstone, according to KPRC.

"The doctor was trying to find him an ICU bed," Puget told KPRC. "He said 'we have been refused so far.' He said 'we have called Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kansas and Colorado.'"


The family was eventually informed that the Houston VA hospital would be able to take Wilkinson. As emergency responders rushed to transport him by helicopter, his organs started shutting down, KPRC reported.

"I think the doctors did everything they could once they got him," Puget said. "But ... it had been [seven] hours. And it's something that needed to be taken care of right away."

Wilkinson lived an hour and a half outside Houston and within "yelling distance" of the local hospital but was unable to receive the treatment he needed, according to "CBS This Morning."


"He loved his country," Puget told CBS. "He served two deployments over in Afghanistan, came home with a Purple Heart, and it was a gallstone that took him out."

Wilkinson's story comes as Texas hospitals are struggling with the latest surge in COVID-19 cases, with one doctor in the state describing the situation as a "hair on fire" crisis in Texas ICUs.

As of Thursday, there were 13,932 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in Texas and only 356 available ICU beds statewide.
 
My brother is diabetic and thinks he has it. Is going this morning to get tested. I am very worried.

Fuck every person who has made this political and refuses to get vaccinated for that reason. I already felt that way, but even more so today.
 
If one more person posts on Facebook that vaccine mandates is comparable to being a Jew in Germany in the 1940's....
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
My brother is diabetic and thinks he has it. Is going this morning to get tested. I am very worried.

Fuck every person who has made this political and refuses to get vaccinated for that reason. I already felt that way, but even more so today.
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I’m really sorry to hear about your brother! I hope he doesn’t have it and gets better soon! Hugs!
 
mikal said:
If one more person posts on Facebook that vaccine mandates is comparable to being a Jew in Germany in the 1940's....
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I’m getting so fucking tired of Facebook and my many idiot “friends” posting all kinds of bullshit about covid, masks and vaccines. What is worst of all is that I thought many of these people were actually decent and smart people. This pandemic showed me that they are fucking idiots!! I’m sick of it all!! I got rid of a lot of people especially one guy I did my lab work during our studies in the sciences! He fucking studied science, biology etc and he has no clue how mRNA works! I’m ashamed that I graduated from an university-college that graduated this fucking idiot!
 
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MrsSpringsteen said:
My brother is diabetic and thinks he has it. Is going this morning to get tested. I am very worried.

Fuck every person who has made this political and refuses to get vaccinated for that reason. I already felt that way, but even more so today.
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Hoping for good news/a good outcome for your brother.

mikal said:
If one more person posts on Facebook that vaccine mandates is comparable to being a Jew in Germany in the 1940's....
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Them and the people who are all "BUT MUH FREEDOM!" about the vaccine - they're right up there with the Sandy Hook deniers in terms of people who deserve to be punched in the face. Hard. Fucking morons.
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
My brother is diabetic and thinks he has it. Is going this morning to get tested. I am very worried.

Fuck every person who has made this political and refuses to get vaccinated for that reason. I already felt that way, but even more so today.
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I hope he comes back negative. All the best to him.

mikal said:
If one more person posts on Facebook that vaccine mandates is comparable to being a Jew in Germany in the 1940's....
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I blocked twitter last week because I couldn't take this shit anymore and think I'm better off for it.
 
Unfortunately he has pneumonia, but it was diagnosed very early and he is on antibiotics. Seems to be what they call "walking pneumonia". Hope he gets better soon. And I hope he can get a covid booster soon too.
 
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