Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
Holy shit now let’s pretend you weren’t trying to be insulting with the term and you entirely intended its use in the literal sense.
Calling someone a jacobin, particularly when you disagree with them, is pejorative and used from the right. It’s the equivalent of calling someone a “commie” or a “fascist” when they’re a socialist or a federalist and you’re looking to highlight there extremism. I shouldn’t have to explain that to you, because we both know you’re using it as an insult, not literally, just by reading everything you wrote there.
i had intended it in the magazine sense from the start. it was meant to be mildly pejorative, another way of saying "Bernie Bro" now that Bernie is out of the race.
I don’t care about some established magazine. Something you seem to be obsessed with. Mother Jones this, WaPo that, Jacobin who gives a shit. Read what’s written and judge for yourself. It’s a gross fallacy to think that the source automatically invalidates the content. You’re focused on peripherals like the age, race, and gender of the author, rather than the sincerity and argument being put forward.
i give a shit because it's important to know your sources and understand who their audience is, because these magazines and newspapers are intended for specific demographics. good work can come from anywhere, absolutely, and the source doesn't invalidate the content, that's true -- nowhere have i claimed otherwise. i think reading a variety of sources is best, and if we're going to go back to that Mother Jones article yet again, let's look at the actual headline:
CRIME AND JUSTICE
DECEMBER 9, 2019
Kamala Was a Cop. Black People Knew It First.
The meme was a lot more than a political smear job by “douchey white guys.”
that is literally all race and class. that's what the article is actually about. it references Black Twitter, and puts it in opposition to Salon. she puts nasty tweets and dank memes in the article. it reinforces a false dichotomy: cops vs. blacks, literally saying Kamala isn't black enough. i don't like the article for many reasons, not least of which is that it repeats the incorrect reason that you also gave for the failure of the Harris campaign: that black people didn't vote (or not vote) for her because she was a cop.
it has some interesting historical background, but it's on the whole a bad article in my opinion.
i'm allowed to have that opinion.
this part, however, is good:
The argument she made during the presidential campaign was that, relative to the larger context of American law enforcement, the outcomes of these negotiations were progressive.
“Kamala is a cop” dispensed with this sort of tortured calculation.
yes. reality, context, and nuance are flattened out in service of a meme. the author calls it "the nuance." bullshit. it's so dismissive and dehumanizing and harmful. i've hated it since it came out. my objection to it is not new.
I can’t express it enough. You’re white, too. The fact that you think you are above another white person else in terms of comprehension of being black is absurd. You have numbers and you have opinion pieces, and those are the language of debate. We don’t have personal experiences. Nobody here is coming off all “white caricature gen xer” with a cuter name about your point of view.
how does the above jive with this:
Try explaining “it’s gotten better so you should accept that maybe your kid’s kid’s kid’s kids won’t have to live in fear and injustice!!!” to the people who can’t tell the damn difference between every damn day of their lives, and don’t give a shit about how they went from position 573 to position 571 when you and I are up in the top 10.
is that really what you think the black experience is?