SOE 31: Yes, we have no bananas

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So how are everyone's opinions holding up/shifting on the current songs???

For me,

TBT is staying good with me. I have been listening to it more rarely, and each time I do, i think, Damn, this is really good, and i'm happy to hear it. It stays at about a 7 for me.

Get Out - This one keeps growing on me and rising in my ratings. It just has that U2 something to it, that makes it special. 7.5 or so now. I can say I would rather listen to it than about 5 songs from SOI...

The Blackout - Loving this song. Did right away and still do. I think the studio version improves on the live version on everything except a certain drum parts. The mix is too muddy for me overall, but beyond that, I love it, and am really happy to have this non-poppy, non-rawk, song. But a darker, cooler tune to balance out the record. A solid 8 for me right now.
Hope we get a couple other tunes on the record to balance things as well. I believe that Love is All We Have Left will be one of those songs.

I am totally with you on GOOYOW. I was kind of ambivalent on the first listen, but man has it grown on me since then. Now I really look forward to listening to it. I've said it before, but somehow the beautiful sound of the entire band playing with abandon in the 45 seconds or so of the song just puts it over the top for me, and gives that feeling that so many U2 songs have given me in the past.

The Blackout is just a monster of a song. Studio version is fantastic, and it is going to rock the rook off the place in concert. I put this right up there with the best U2 "rock" tracks. Even Fred, Ned, Jack and Zack can't lessen the song.

As for TBT, I know I may be in the minority, but I love listening to the Kygo mix, especially on my headphones when running.
 
My first memories of U2 are as an early teen when my dad was blasting AB from every stereo system in the house. I remember him playing air guitar to Zoo Station and pumping his fist with delight. I also remember him reading newspaper articles aloud about the forthcoming Zooropa companion piece. He couldn't be more excited. I also recall at this time our family stopped going to church, as my dad said there was no better spiritual lesson than listening to a U2 album. Despite registering the musical perfection of songs like EBTTRT and One, and later getting attached to So Cruel for personal reasons, I played it cool because liking what your dad liked wasn't...well...cool. I remember my dad being disappointed with Pop. My personal recollections as a late teen are of the Discotheque music video on MTV, Mofo, muscle suit, and wondering if/how this was the same band that offered earlier treasures like Bad and Bullet. Despite my prior efforts to downplay anything my dad liked, I went about discovering the back catalogue around this time. I came to appreciate Pop on my own years later. Into my 20s, the gravitas of U2 became real and I remember the anticipation and "return to form" with the release of BD. After a couple of awkward early listens due to the production (heartbeat drums and other poppy elements), the chorus eventually carried the day and the song was striking. More than that, I saw them live for the first time and purchased the Elevation Tour DVD. My college roommates and I watched the DVD repeatedly - U2 was everywhere. ATYCLB was hit or miss for me, good songs and forgettable songs (toward the end of the record), but the messaging of the album circulating around 9/11 was profound. The Super Bowl performance only highlighted their impeccable timing and relevance. Then Vertigo. Having not appreciated Zoo TV at the time, Vertigo was the peak of U2 commercialism for me. It was a staple anthem at every stadium and I quite enjoyed it. That said, I was disappointed overall with HTDAAB and considered it their worst album to date. The songs just didn't resonate, maybe and admittedly, because they were being compared to the impact of ATYCLB. I also remember the loudness...oh the loudness...ABOY gave me a wretched headache. I bought the Bomb DVD, again with heightened standards of that earlier time, but it too paled in comparison to Elevation Tour. The sheen was wearing off a bit. Still, the anticipation and excitement of a new U2 album release process was real to me and it revved up with the beach clips (my first introduction to this website). New U2 music was an event. I remember being intrigued my the minimalism of the record cover and I too hoped for "experimental" U2 after the fleeting rock approach of HTDAAB. I remember comparing Boots to Alice In Chains (those harmonies) and the tone of the song has always remained creative and intriguing to me, if not a particularly good tune. I enjoyed the rest of the album, especially the "experimental" tracks like NLOTH and Being Born and the overall production, but it didn't age well. Maybe because it didn't have a strong single, like BD and Vertigo before it, to buoy it. Some of the melodies linger, but I haven't listened to it in its entirety in years. I remember feeling a bit of renewed energy with Invisible. Hearing it on the radio for the first time was exciting as was another marriage to the Super Bowl. The electronic intro once again sparked that old, perhaps inevitable, wishful thinking and self-convincing that maybe there would be another AB in them. Of course, no. The track was a blip of interest ultimately buried by album delays and general malaise. The "event" of a U2 release was gone by the time SOI dropped, but I do remember scrambling to hear the new songs after the surprise release. By this point, my expectations were tempered. I generally accepted that at this stage of their careers, the band was aiming for the low-hanging fruit - pop relevance - as opposed to any inspired statement or innovation. As a fan, the goal then becomes to find a couple hidden gems within the albums, which I did, with EBW and Troubles. Troubles offers authentic U2 atmospherics which, unfortunately, now gets tacked on to the end of a record instead of being the driving undercurrent of an album approach a la TUF. I found a couple other enticing tracks, but again, the overall album was ultimately forgettable and what I consider U2 paint by numbers. I have no desire to go back to it. Truth be told - it's the only U2 album I don't own on CD. So now here we are as fans, perhaps reacting with unrealistic if not unfair expectations for a band that has set its course for the last leg of a career. Not only that, but we as fans age and discover other priorities and more meaningful sources of satisfaction. No matter the quality, new U2 songs won't carry the emotional weight of those songs first heard during formative years. All this being said, I still hope for moments of enjoyment and anticipation in the U2 new album release process that was once such a grand event. I like reading descriptions. I like hearing songs for the first time. And at this point, I can only be pleasantly surprised when I discover those gems. Hopefully, we get a few on SOE. The overreaction and criticism just isn't worth it.


:applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud:
 
I haven't listened to the new songs in days now and I think I will not listen to them again until I can listen to the entire album. I was finding I was getting a bit bored of listening to them over and over and I don't want to be totally sick of them. However gooyow has grown on me a bit and AS still remains a strong song for me. The blackout I still love and TBT I'm a bit bored of it for now. Too many listens lol
 
Aside from that, Winter should be banned for that Edge-on-autopilot guitar.

I have to disagree. Winter is one of the 20 greatest songs U2 have ever recorded and their greatest song of the past 10 years. Eno said they were absolutely crazy for not putting it on the No Line On The Horizon album.

Here is Winter from the companion hour link video Linear that came with the No Line On The Horizon album:

 
My first memories of U2 are as an early teen when my dad was blasting AB from every stereo system in the house. I remember him playing air guitar to Zoo Station and pumping his fist with delight. I also remember him reading newspaper articles aloud about the forthcoming Zooropa companion piece. He couldn't be more excited. I also recall at this time our family stopped going to church, as my dad said there was no better spiritual lesson than listening to a U2 album. Despite registering the musical perfection of songs like EBTTRT and One, and later getting attached to So Cruel for personal reasons, I played it cool because liking what your dad liked wasn't...well...cool. I remember my dad being disappointed with Pop. My personal recollections as a late teen are of the Discotheque music video on MTV, Mofo, muscle suit, and wondering if/how this was the same band that offered earlier treasures like Bad and Bullet. Despite my prior efforts to downplay anything my dad liked, I went about discovering the back catalogue around this time. I came to appreciate Pop on my own years later. Into my 20s, the gravitas of U2 became real and I remember the anticipation and "return to form" with the release of BD. After a couple of awkward early listens due to the production (heartbeat drums and other poppy elements), the chorus eventually carried the day and the song was striking. More than that, I saw them live for the first time and purchased the Elevation Tour DVD. My college roommates and I watched the DVD repeatedly - U2 was everywhere. ATYCLB was hit or miss for me, good songs and forgettable songs (toward the end of the record), but the messaging of the album circulating around 9/11 was profound. The Super Bowl performance only highlighted their impeccable timing and relevance. Then Vertigo. Having not appreciated Zoo TV at the time, Vertigo was the peak of U2 commercialism for me. It was a staple anthem at every stadium and I quite enjoyed it. That said, I was disappointed overall with HTDAAB and considered it their worst album to date. The songs just didn't resonate, maybe and admittedly, because they were being compared to the impact of ATYCLB. I also remember the loudness...oh the loudness...ABOY gave me a wretched headache. I bought the Bomb DVD, again with heightened standards of that earlier time, but it too paled in comparison to Elevation Tour. The sheen was wearing off a bit. Still, the anticipation and excitement of a new U2 album release process was real to me and it revved up with the beach clips (my first introduction to this website). New U2 music was an event. I remember being intrigued my the minimalism of the record cover and I too hoped for "experimental" U2 after the fleeting rock approach of HTDAAB. I remember comparing Boots to Alice In Chains (those harmonies) and the tone of the song has always remained creative and intriguing to me, if not a particularly good tune. I enjoyed the rest of the album, especially the "experimental" tracks like NLOTH and Being Born and the overall production, but it didn't age well. Maybe because it didn't have a strong single, like BD and Vertigo before it, to buoy it. Some of the melodies linger, but I haven't listened to it in its entirety in years. I remember feeling a bit of renewed energy with Invisible. Hearing it on the radio for the first time was exciting as was another marriage to the Super Bowl. The electronic intro once again sparked that old, perhaps inevitable, wishful thinking and self-convincing that maybe there would be another AB in them. Of course, no. The track was a blip of interest ultimately buried by album delays and general malaise. The "event" of a U2 release was gone by the time SOI dropped, but I do remember scrambling to hear the new songs after the surprise release. By this point, my expectations were tempered. I generally accepted that at this stage of their careers, the band was aiming for the low-hanging fruit - pop relevance - as opposed to any inspired statement or innovation. As a fan, the goal then becomes to find a couple hidden gems within the albums, which I did, with EBW and Troubles. Troubles offers authentic U2 atmospherics which, unfortunately, now gets tacked on to the end of a record instead of being the driving undercurrent of an album approach a la TUF. I found a couple other enticing tracks, but again, the overall album was ultimately forgettable and what I consider U2 paint by numbers. I have no desire to go back to it. Truth be told - it's the only U2 album I don't own on CD. So now here we are as fans, perhaps reacting with unrealistic if not unfair expectations for a band that has set its course for the last leg of a career. Not only that, but we as fans age and discover other priorities and more meaningful sources of satisfaction. No matter the quality, new U2 songs won't carry the emotional weight of those songs first heard during formative years. All this being said, I still hope for moments of enjoyment and anticipation in the U2 new album release process that was once such a grand event. I like reading descriptions. I like hearing songs for the first time. And at this point, I can only be pleasantly surprised when I discover those gems. Hopefully, we get a few on SOE. The overreaction and criticism just isn't worth it.

Let me introduce you to my little friend...

 
Winter gets shit for its lyrics - butter on toast being he main culprit, but this line won me over (and why it was taken out of the released version from Brothers I will never know):

At 21,
I was born a son,
And on that day I knew I could kill.

To protect the ones,
We put bullets in guns,
Or anything it takes to take a life.
 
Winter gets shit for its lyrics - butter on toast being he main culprit, but this line won me over (and why it was taken out of the released version from Brothers I will never know):

At 21,
I was born a son,
And on that day I knew I could kill.

To protect the ones,
We put bullets in guns,
Or anything it takes to take a life.

 
Why has this song never been put on an album? It's still the best pop-rock song U2 have produced in the past 25 years. It might have gone straight to number one if it had been released as the first single...

youtube.com/watch?v=EO8arThAKfk
 
Why has this song never been put on an album? It's still the best pop-rock song U2 have produced in the past 25 years. It might have gone straight to number one if it had been released as the first single...

https://www.atu2.com/news/deconstructing-larry-the-creative-tension-behind-u2.html

The album was initially to be produced by the legendary American knob-twiddler Rick Rubin, the man who turned the late Johnny Cash's career around for the last 10 years of his life.

But the sessions didn't work out quite as expected, and they subsequently called in Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois, who have worked with them since The Unforgettable Fire in 1984. And they are quick not to blame Rubin, who apparently just has a different method of working in the studio than the Dublin supergroup.
 
Why has this song never been put on an album? It's still the best pop-rock song U2 have produced in the past 25 years. It might have gone straight to number one if it had been released as the first single...

youtube.com/watch?v=EO8arThAKfk



So many people talk about Mercy and I’m just like, what about All My Life? For my money, that’s the best U2 song not released in the past 15 years. Maybe longer.
 
So many people talk about Mercy and I’m just like, what about All My Life? For my money, that’s the best U2 song not released in the past 15 years. Maybe longer.
It is baffling. I mean Wake Up Dead Man was born in 1990 and not realeased till Pop. Numb was from the Achtung sessions. There are dozens of examples of them picking up old stuff and putting it out.

North Star gets hate here, but if you're going for syrupy pop ala Song For Someone, North Star would be far better.

And if you're going for ecstatic anthemic stadium songs, All My Life seems so perfect for that.

Has an interviewer EVER asked them about that song?
 
It is baffling. I mean Wake Up Dead Man was born in 1990 and not realeased till Pop. Numb was from the Achtung sessions. There are dozens of examples of them picking up old stuff and putting it out.

North Star gets hate here, but if you're going for syrupy pop ala Song For Someone, North Star would be far better.

And if you're going for ecstatic anthemic stadium songs, All My Life seems so perfect for that.

Has an interviewer EVER asked them about that song?
Not only that, but WUDM and Numb changed almost completely from their demos for achtung to the versions that were ultimately on Zooropa and POP. I personally think Down All the Days is far better than Numb, just a FYI. So who knows, maybe we'll see All Of My Life again, but it may be drastically different.

Yeah North Star gets a lot if flack here, but I absolutely love it. The acoustic version is fantastic and I don't find it to be syrupy pop at all. The production of the Transformers version.. Yuk.
 
Not only that, but WUDM and Numb changed almost completely from their demos for achtung to the versions that were ultimately on Zooropa and POP. I personally think Down All the Days is far better than Numb, just a FYI. So who knows, maybe we'll see All Of My Life again, but it may be drastically different.

Yeah North Star gets a lot if flack here, but I absolutely love it. The acoustic version is fantastic and I don't find it to be syrupy pop at all. The production of the Transformers version.. Yuk.

But the Transformer version has a nice guitar solo fragment that I want to hear the full version.
 
That still doesn't explain why they have never reserected it. In that interview, they say the Rick Rubin material wouldn't have fit in on NLONH, but that it could've been right for previous, more simple albums like Atomic Bomb. This is why 'All My Life' would have been perfect for Songs of Experience. I sometimes just shake my head. I was really hoping to hear that amazing track on this album. Hopefully one day.
 
That still doesn't explain why they have never reserected it. In that interview, they say the Rick Rubin material wouldn't have fit in on NLONH, but that it could've been right for previous, more simple albums like Atomic Bomb. This is why 'All My Life' would have been perfect for Songs of Experience. I sometimes just shake my head. I was really hoping to hear that amazing track on this album. Hopefully one day.

Subliminally it does when Edge says "you never know" in an embarrassed way. They didn't like that sound at that time and knowing U2 they move on faster than the material gets made. Just look at those POP new mixes. They get out of the head space of POP and the material turns into, mostly uninspired remixes. They follow their intuition and there's a trail of leftover material that I also wish would reappear, like....

Larry in studio

http://www.u2interference.com/forum...-the-horizon-complete-transcripts-199293.html

media.u2.com/flash/highlights/larryinstudio.swf
 
u2songs | Love Is All We Have Left (Studio Version) - U2 (02:41) |

Nothing to stop this being the best day ever
Nothing to keep us from where we should be
I wanted the world but you knew better
And that all we have is immorality.

Don’t close your eyes.

Love and love is all we have left
A baby cries on a doorstep
Love is all we have left
Love and love is all we have left
You argue because you can’t accept
Love is all we have left.

Now you’re at the other end of the telescope
Seven billion stars in her eyes
So many stars
So many ways of seeing
Hey this is no time not to be alive

Love and love is all we have left
A baby cries on a doorstep
Love is all we have left.

Love and love is all we have left
The only thing that can be kept
Love is all we have left.
 
Midday today was the cut off point for people to claim their London tickets. If any and I'm sure there will be a handfull are re released it should be this afternoon. So keep checking your emails
 
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