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Will the photos be in a lower key?
The photos will be in colour...because they can't shoot in monochrome anymore..
Will the photos be in a lower key?
Bono has always downplayed his singing when looking back, nothing "scary" about it.
Not being able to sing like you could in your 20's? Welcome to being human.
Why would you want him to take as many takes as possible if it's not something he'll be able to sing live?
I think you're reading too much into the quote. I think if he had said, "oh, that singing was amazing, that's what makes us great", people would be losing their lunch. Bono and U2 have always been somewhat self-deprecating and humble about listening back to their recordings.Yes, it is scary when someone doesn't even know what makes them great.
Or it could be there age. Rock bands their age don't fuck up the mainstream, they're happy even if they're in the mainstream.A larger argument could be made that that's the exact reason U2 is following the pack instead of "f*ing up the mainstream" and not being afraid of "losing some of the pop kids". Even though SOI was an outstanding album, they are still lost in terms of their mindset at the moment.
Wow, a couple of notes will ruin the whole tour for you? Sad.For me, the entire tour will be (an even bigger) LETDOWN if he doesn't try to hit the big notes in RHMT.
I think you're reading too much into the quote. I think if he had said, "oh, that singing was amazing, that's what makes us great", people would be losing their lunch. Bono and U2 have always been somewhat self-deprecating and humble about listening back to their recordings.
Or it could be there age. Rock bands their age don't fuck up the mainstream, they're happy even if they're in the mainstream.
The 'pop kids' quote is so often misunderstood in here, it's not nearly as brave as you may want to think. The 90's were about 'alternative' there was nothing brave about dissing the 'pop kids'. Context is everything.
Wow, a couple of notes will ruin the whole tour for you? Sad.
No one is even remotely saying he's not going to try and hit the notes. Why this over the top panic? He'll hit the notes in his 2017 voice, period. It may be a more head voice vs the full voice of then, but he'll hit the notes. Stop creating panic.
Who's creating panic? As of right now we have no idea how he'll sing it.
Bono and U2 have always been somewhat self-deprecating and humble about listening back to their recordings.
Or it could be there age. Rock bands their age don't fuck up the mainstream, they're happy even if they're in the mainstream.
The 'pop kids' quote is so often misunderstood in here, it's not nearly as brave as you may want to think. The 90's were about 'alternative' there was nothing brave about dissing the 'pop kids'. Context is everything.
Wow, a couple of notes will ruin the whole tour for you? Sad.
Then why is it you seem to have already made up your mind?
I'm a busy man and I don't have time for an entire U2 history lesson so bear that in mind if you choose to reply.
No please bro, please. Don't deny us all your lengthy commentary on U2, we're all brand new or confused about the band. I think a lengthy meandering post might set us all straight, it will be totally worth your time.
Wh... what the fuck is going on in here lol
I know I sometimes read too much into the various goings-on of the whole U2 operation, but this... this is a whole new level of absurdity hahha
I'm sorry for coming across so flippantly--judging by your username, RHMT is clearly very special to you (and maybe a large part of my total bewilderment to this discussion is that I... don't really have a strong opinion of the song (no offense lol). To be fair, I can understand some fans taking issue with U2's decision to tour TJT as a sign of "clinging to the past," so to speak, when the band always seem so focused on forward momentum (or, at least, attempt a forward trajectory )... but the notion that U2's re-recording of the vocal track--which nobody has heard, mind you--is evidence that the band's intentionally neutering their work rather than it simply being a result of Bono unable to healthily sing the notes as they appear on record from 30 years ago... that just doesn't make sense to me.Not a whole lot to read into. U2 adopted a desperate mindset at some point and are now in danger of neutering one of their most vital songs....just prior to going on their "reverse gear" tour. *That* is absurd.
Yeah, I don't think anyone will find any quote on the necessity to change the key.Where is the quote from him downplaying his original singing? Or that he intends to change the key?
I honestly can't think of any other U2 song where Bono works this hard.
God Part II probably comes closest, without ever getting close at all.
I'm sorry for coming across so flippantly--judging by your username, RHMT is clearly very special to you (and maybe a large part of my total bewilderment to this discussion is that I... don't really have a strong opinion of the song (no offense lol). To be fair, I can understand some fans taking issue with U2's decision to tour TJT as a sign of "clinging to the past," so to speak, when the band always seem so focused on forward momentum (or, at least, attempt a forward trajectory )... but the notion that U2's re-recording of the vocal track--which nobody has heard, mind you--is evidence that the band's intentionally neutering their work rather than it simply being a result of Bono unable to healthily sing the notes as they appear on record from 30 years ago... that just doesn't make sense to me.
However, on the album version Bono really is straining to pour every bit of emotion possible into his vocal delivery. He barely manages to balance the very fine line between singing and shouting for large parts of the song.
I honestly can't think of any other U2 song where Bono works this hard.
God Part II probably comes closest, without ever getting close at all.
If he couldn't do the vocals like on the album version of RHMT 30 years ago, then he sure as hell won't be able to do it now.
If you choose to be disappointed by this, then that's your perogative, I guess.
Not a whole lot to read into. U2 adopted a desperate mindset at some point and are now in danger of neutering one of their most vital songs....just prior to going on their "reverse gear" tour. *That* is absurd.
I already stated my opinion more clearly than you're suggesting. I won't be disappointed if he tries to maintain the urgency of the chorus...only if he chooses to completely disregard it and sing the song like a lullaby (à la Edge SBS during Popmart) instead. All I ask is for him to try and do it as much justice as he currently can. This song demands some reverence.
Is that such a horrible thing to hope for?!
I already stated my opinion more clearly than you're suggesting. I won't be disappointed if he tries to maintain the urgency of the chorus...only if he chooses to completely disregard it and sing the song like a lullaby (à la Edge SBS during Popmart) instead. All I ask is for him to try and do it as much justice as he currently can. This song demands some reverence.
Is that such a horrible thing to hope for?!
No alarmism here, just keep on scrolling folks.
I totally share these concerns. I'm almost expecting one or more of the JT songs to get this treatment. If not RHMT then it will be some other song.
Weird thing is, if they are going to neuter RHMT then why immortalise it by recording a studio version of it? This gives me hope that they must have some confidence in the re-recorded vocal. Otherwise it will simply serve as a permanent reminder of how in a lot of ways, Bono's voice simply doesn't cut it these days.
But it seems like you have decided that this is happening, when all we know is he has re-recorded just the vocal for the verses, and they've added some brass. And I would say that is pretty much evidence AGAINST what you are suggesting - that if they didn't touch the chorus, yet are promoting it as a single, that maybe he thinks he can nail the chorus. I'll repeat Gabe's question here - does anyone have proof that that is WHY they never played it? Maybe it was just one too many meandering, mid-tempo songs?
But it seems like you have decided that this is happening, when all we know is he has re-recorded just the vocal for the verses, and they've added some brass. And I would say that is pretty much evidence AGAINST what you are suggesting - that if they didn't touch the chorus, yet are promoting it as a single, that maybe he thinks he can nail the chorus. I'll repeat Gabe's question here - does anyone have proof that that is WHY they never played it? Maybe it was just one too many meandering, mid-tempo songs?
If people consistently can't see what you said as sarcasm, perhaps they aren't the ones suffering from sarcasm fail...Sarcasm fail redux
If people consistently can't see what you said as sarcasm, perhaps they aren't the ones suffering from sarcasm fail...
I wish I could recall where the quote actually is, but there's definitely a remark out there that RHMT was dumped as a single because Bono didn't think he could do it every night of the tour (which isn't to say he didn't think he could do it sometimes, and they worked on it during the third leg).
But then Bono once said they couldn't play Acrobat because Edge would need to meditate in a tree for a month.
So, Bono lies.
rather than it simply being a result of Bono unable to healthily sing the notes as they appear on record from 30 years ago... that just doesn't make sense to me.