Random Music Talk LXXVIII: Crashing Miley's Toluca Lake Pad

[Hewson]

Florida is quite flat.

How did things smell during the ride through Georgia?

The 2 memories that stand out when I drove (6 of us in a van) to Ft Lauderdale for spring break many moons ago were:

1. The swamps along 95 (not the 95) in Georgia smelled horrible.

2. Celebrating that we made it to Florida after crossing the border was a mistake as it was 6 more hours to our destination.

 

[iron yuppie]

Lolz.

I try to only eat meat one meal a day. You could say I'm vegetarian except I eat beef, pork, chicken, turkey, fish, deer, elk, duck, shrimp, clams, mutton, bison, etc.

There are people out there who call themselves vegetarians who have those eating habits; they feel that trying to reduce the amount of meat you consume makes you vegetarian. There was a recent a study, and I'm going to be lazy about the source because I can't immediately remember who conducted it, that showed a substantial amount of people identified as vegetarian despite eating beef, bacon, and chicken on a regular basis.

 

[Jive Turkey]

I find it a little interesting that you'll eat fish because they don't have an advanced central nervous system but you'll escore tiny useless insects outside, JT.

I think it has something to do with, at least I'm not wasting the fish's life. I just find it crass to stomp on some little creature that's just going about its business.

 

[iron yuppie]

I laughed so hard at this. How glorious that would have been!

Also, I feel your pain re: the douchebaggery associated with vegetarianism. When I tell people that I am one, I usually follow it quickly with "but I don't care what other people eat. No, seriously." I'm also glad to know I'm not the only one who gently escorts insects out of the house/makes students gently escort them out of the classroom.

My experience has been that the judgmental remarks come much more swiftly from the meat-eating side than from any vegetarian I have ever known. I can't count how many times I have had grossly overweight people tell me I can't get enough protein from a vegetarian diet. My all-time favorite remark, though, was when someone responded to my ordering a vegetarian dish with, "doesn't the bible say that god put animals here for us to use?" Judeo-Christian values, you guys.

 

[Jive Turkey]

hahahaha

 

[LemonMelon]

My all-time favorite remark, though, was when someone responded to my ordering a vegetarian dish with, "doesn't the bible say that god put animals here for us to use?" Judeo-Christian values, you guys.

The Bible has a hilarious debate along these lines:

"Peeeeeteeeerrrrr...killll aaaand eaaaat"

"Uh no God there's like raccoons in there and stuff wtf is up with you today"

"Dooooon'ttt argguuueee with meee"

"Come on, God, wtf"

"Yooou'llll eaaaaat everything in that blanket and you'lll liiiike ittttt"

"Ugh, alright. Can't I have a cool heavenly fork at least?"

"It's symbooliiic, you foool"

" "

Spoiler

The LeMel Bible, with foreword by Bono

 

[nielsgov]

My experience has been that the judgmental remarks come much more swiftly from the meat-eating side than from any vegetarian I have ever known. I can't count how many times I have had grossly overweight people tell me I can't get enough protein from a vegetarian diet. My all-time favorite remark, though, was when someone responded to my ordering a vegetarian dish with, "doesn't the bible say that god put animals here for us to use?" Judeo-Christian values, you guys.

That's hilarious.

My stance on this is basically the same as cobbler's, except for the cooking part as I never cook. Meat is too good not be eaten. Nothing beats a good steak with french fries.

 

[martha]

Meat is too good not be eaten. Nothing beats a good steak with french fries.

Brotha.

 

[LemonMelon]

In western MD, which is a good thousand miles north of Deliverance but still a neighbor in many ways, they have a saying about small furry animals:

 

[u2popmofo]

I'm really fucking lazy.

Good point.

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

Well, i started off not eating any meat whatsoever, but felt like I was getting a bit scrawny, so I made an exception. I do it for ....blaaaaah... ethical (fuck, I'm a douche) reasons. And (relatively speaking) fish don't have an advanced central nervous system. Just a line I felt comfortable drawing (I never kill insects though.. I put them outside or let them go on their merry way in my home).
I stay away from the more intelligent sea creatures. No octopus or squid.
But if someone came to my house for dinner and wanted steak, I'd make it for them. I'm not about forcing it on anyone and don't judge

I am vegan for ethical reasons. Ive heard just about every argument I can think about eating meat or why I shouldn't be vegan. I've given up trying to tell other people what to do, if you're not going to stop eating meat on your own I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

 

[Diemen]

Spoiler

The LeMel Bible, with foreword by Bono

There's been a lot of talk about soy milk and vegetarianism. Maybe, maybe too much talk.

 

[nielsgov]

I am vegan for ethical reasons. Ive heard just about every argument I can think about eating meat or why I shouldn't be vegan. I've given up trying to tell other people what to do, if you're not going to stop eating meat on your own I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Just out of interest, isn't it extremely difficult to be a vegan? From what I know about it, that's not much I admit, it seems you can barely eat anything as a vegan.

 

[iron yuppie]

There's been a lot of talk about soy milk and vegetarianism. Maybe, maybe too much talk.

 

[u2popmofo]

I am vegan for ethical reasons. Ive heard just about every argument I can think about eating meat or why I shouldn't be vegan. I've given up trying to tell other people what to do, if you're not going to stop eating meat on your own I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Elfa, what could I do to make you lose sleep? I'd like to do whatever it is.

 

[Danny Boy]

Elfa, what could I do to make you lose sleep? I'd like to do whatever it is.

 

[HeartlandGirl]

My experience has been that the judgmental remarks come much more swiftly from the meat-eating side than from any vegetarian I have ever known.

Indeed, indeed. In day to day life, most people aren't rude, but I unfriended a girl on facebook because she kept posting hateful anti-vegetarian stuff (with Judeo-Christian justifications). I also hid my cousin's newsfeed for the same reason--she's a veterinary professor in charge of food animals, and she really hates vegetarians. I also have one vegan friend who is a vocal hater of meat-eaters. The douchebaggery cuts both ways.

 

[KhanadaRhodes]

i know a girl who went vegan and in the course of a year dropped a couple dress sizes. she'll post photos on facebook of what she's eating and sometimes it looks good until she starts saying what's in it.

i also know someone who's a vegetarian but i tend to just see them once a year. whenever i see them it's at a party and they're eating a tiny bit of chicken and it just confuses me. i don't know if they always eat chicken or if it's just once in a while or what. so there you go.

i could never be a vegetarian but i at least try not to eat beef too often as it's just too high in fat compared to chicken and fish.

 

[Danny Boy]

 

[bono_212]

I've seen that before and it is painfully true.

 

[HeartlandGirl]

^

 

[lazarus]

But if someone came to my house for dinner and wanted steak, I'd make it for them.

Who comes to someone's house for dinner and asks for a steak?

 

[Danny Boy]

Who comes to someone's house for dinner and asks for a steak?

Jive's old crew from back in the hood. Bunch of moochers.

 

[u2popmofo]

Who comes to someone's house for dinner and asks for a steak?

Screw steak, I want him to cook an entire side of beef for me. I demand it of you, JT.

Elfa, I have been hunting 3 or 4 times. Never shot anything though.

 

[martha]

I have womanly prowess with a BB gun.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

This thread title turns me on.

This thread title can't be tamed.

For those who don't know me, I can get a bit crazy.

I go through guys like money flyin' out they hands.

 

[nielsgov]

Too true.

I hate listening to music with people want to skip to the next 1to 2 minutes. Or even worse, people who want to fast forward to the best part that you've been talking about.

 

[cobl04]

Hahaha that is depressingly true. I played Rubies last night during some shit card game with my housemates... Not one of them commented on how good it was

There's been a lot of talk about soy milk and vegetarianism. Maybe, maybe too much talk.

 

[Axver]

Well, i started off not eating any meat whatsoever, but felt like I was getting a bit scrawny, so I made an exception. I do it for ....blaaaaah... ethical (fuck, I'm a douche) reasons. And (relatively speaking) fish don't have an advanced central nervous system. Just a line I felt comfortable drawing (I never kill insects though.. I put them outside or let them go on their merry way in my home).
I stay away from the more intelligent sea creatures. No octopus or squid.
But if someone came to my house for dinner and wanted steak, I'd make it for them. I'm not about forcing it on anyone and don't judge

Sorry Jive, I just had to pick up on this even if I'm late to the party. Normally I don't give a shit what people eat, but I frankly don't understand pescetarianism. Besides all the various inconsistencies it immediately raises between fish and any other meat (and of which you are evidently aware), the commercial fishing industry is easily the most destructive meat industry on the planet. Now if you're just eating fish you caught or that have been otherwise harvested in some sort of sustainable way, then I'll return to my usual habit of giving zero shits, but ask any marine biologist and they'll tell you how commercial fishing fleets are raping the oceans in the most horrendous manner.

My girlfriend the marine biologist almost goes into a blind rage about pescetarianism, so that might have rubbed off on me a bit over the last few years.

Incidentally, much as I love meat and in particular would struggle to live without bacon, 'roo, or chicken in my life, I'd probably go vegetarian in a second if I had to actually kill the animal myself. I'm aware of the hypocrisy there.

 

[Jive Turkey]

There's been a lot of talk about soy milk and vegetarianism. Maybe, maybe too much talk.

You win the Internet for the first week of march. Treat yo self!