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U2 360 Boxscore Discussion
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I swear, if we dont get figures in a minute im going to slit someones throat and shit down their neck.
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Mrs. Garrison
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Don't make me go all Larry on you.
i think im more worried about vaz02 than you, big guy
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There were no U2 shows reported this week. Top three were:
1 Austin City Limits Music Festival: Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews Band, Kings of Leon, Ben Harper & Relentless7 & others Zilker Park
Austin, Texas
Oct. 2-4, 2009
$13,503,345
195,000 /
195,000
3 /
3
$185, $135
C3 Presents
2 Depeche Mode, The Raveonettes Foro Sol
Mexico City, Mexico
Oct. 3-4, 2009
$4,190,448
88,380 /
99,962
2 /
0
$102.03, $18.22
OCESA/CIE-Mexico
3 Bette Midler The Colosseum at Caesars Palace
Las Vegas, Nev.
Oct. 14, 16-18, 20-21, 23-25, 2009
$3,734,928
32,601 /
37,914
9 /
2
$250, $175, $140, $95
Concerts West/AEG Live
1 Austin City Limits Music Festival: Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews Band, Kings of Leon, Ben Harper & Relentless7 & others Zilker Park
Austin, Texas
Oct. 2-4, 2009
$13,503,345
195,000 /
195,000
3 /
3
$185, $135
C3 Presents
2 Depeche Mode, The Raveonettes Foro Sol
Mexico City, Mexico
Oct. 3-4, 2009
$4,190,448
88,380 /
99,962
2 /
0
$102.03, $18.22
OCESA/CIE-Mexico
3 Bette Midler The Colosseum at Caesars Palace
Las Vegas, Nev.
Oct. 14, 16-18, 20-21, 23-25, 2009
$3,734,928
32,601 /
37,914
9 /
2
$250, $175, $140, $95
Concerts West/AEG Live
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The fact remains, when the number of tickets released for purchased = the number of tickets sold, the concert is marked a sellout. Its that simple. It has nothing to do with the the real physical capacity of the venue, although sometimes the two figures match up.
In terms of being known to the general public, yes. Here are some facts you seem to be ignorant of:
Fleetwood Mac's first album to EVER make into the Top 30 of the US billboard 200 was the "Fleetwood Mac" Album released in the summer of 1975!
When the show happened in 1976, this was STILL their only Top 30 album.
Fleetwood Mac had NO top 10 hits at the time of the concert.
The "Fleetwood Mac" album is the first album by Fleetwood Mac to achieve GOLD status which is 500,000 albums sold.
Now lets contrast that with the Eagles position at the time:
The Eagles at that time had 6 top 10 hits. 5 of those made the top 5 and two of them made it to #1.
The Eagles had 4 albums to make the US top 30 of the Billboard 200. Two of those albums each made it to #1 for over a month. All of the albums had been certified GOLD and the Eagles "Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975" was one of the first albums to ever be certified PLATINUM when the award became available in 1976!
The Eagles were very popular, with lots of HIT albums and singles. Fleetwood Mac at the time only had ONE hit album and NO top 10 hits. Its an understatement to say the Eagles were ahead of Fleetwood Mac at the time of the concert.
Great, and I'm sure you can name every single one as well as provide us with the boxoffice results of each.
LOL, Well, why don't you contact them and tell them you soldout the Rose Bowl at say 97,000 people and tell them the gross was 9,700,000 because you charged $100 dollars a ticket. I'm sure we'll see your numbers on next weeks Billboard Boxscore chart!
I have boxscores by Bruce Springsteen showing that he soldout a show at x capacity, yet that is NOT the full physical capacity of the venue. I have shows that show Bruce Springsteen did not sellout a venue and the attendance was say 14,000 out of 18,000, yet the full capacity of the venue was actually 19,000.
Again, the reason for that is that the number of tickets released for purchase by the promoter was smaller than the maximum physical capacity of the venue. Thats how its always been done. No one goes around just declaring they sold x amount and that it was a sellout.
But hey, why don't contact Billboard Boxscore and tell them you soldout the Rose Bowl!
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Well, looks like the remaining 6 shows will all be posted next wendsday. Tonight is the last show for 2009 in Vancouver.
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ijwthstd
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Or if the promotor decides to declare it a sellout after the fact regardless of it there were tickets still available at showtime or not.
While going to number one, selling 4.5 million copies and spawning 3 hit songs, even if they didn't break the top 10. Hardly "relatively unknown" except maybe to people who didn't listen to rock music or FM radio at the time.
Yes, both bands were popular, thank you very much.
I can name more than 12.
Now you are just being silly.
Dude, you're talking like you are in on some well-kept secret. I have the same boxscores and many many more.
Happens all the time.
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Honestly guys, this thread is called 'U2 360 Boxscore Discussion' not 'All Boxscore Discussion'.
That said,
, I'm surprised with those headliners, and 195,000 attendees, that ACL 'only' grossed $13m.
That said,
, I'm surprised with those headliners, and 195,000 attendees, that ACL 'only' grossed $13m.
Lets see first stadium show I saw was in 1972 and it was Rolling Stones with Stevie Wonder opening on 4th of july in DC>..... Talk about some crazy stuff. Tear Gas etc........ Tickets were sold in lottery form for $5-$15
I saw Eagles Fleetwood Mac Stadium show and it was a double bill show. Fleetwood was hot at the time as they had just gotten the 2 girls singing etc. People were there for both bands. Another stadium tour in mid 70 had Yes Peter Frampton and other groups. They turned off the amps as Yes played pass curfew and ROundabout was silenced. Then in 79-80 The Police did a stadium tour that was probably the best I have witnessed. Or the Grateful Dead at Englishtown with 150,000 (that might be NJ record for a show.....
But the real problem is Live Nation and U2 not allowing any bad publicity. The shows are not sellouts in that they were full to capacity. They were sellouts in the minds of Live Nation and U2. I have made this point earlier that this is similar to bean counters at Goldman Sachs or Wallstreet. Limit information and keep the buzz alive.
People should know how poor some of the $250 seats are for this show. It would be better to buy the cheaper seats as there is little difference in perception from a far. Think how many southern Californians paid 250 and they were 1/4 mile from stage. Rose bowl is large and wide compared to newer stadiums.
This tour has been greatest hits tour (pay for the infrustructure) and all we can hope is next year they won't be worried about paying the bills and might play songs not often heard. I was looking at the DVD's band has released and you could find about 10 songs or more that have been on every tour for decade.
I watch Rolling Stones show on MTV recently which was a stadium arena tour from 80's. Philly I beleive) The setlist went all the way back to their first albums just like they did in 2005.
Also I didnt see any monitors scrolling the lyrics for Mick as he ran around the stage like a tiger on a mission. There wasn't even a video screen shown (not sure if they had one) so Stones had to do their magic with music and Mick's swagger.
The other thing I notice is the ego part of performance. Most bands never mention their stage or props (how do you like our space ship etc) or do they mention how many people are in attendance (more then the pope)
Usually a bands come out and play their music and let it do the bragging. Maybe that is what Bono needs to do.
Or just be honest and say we had a great tour made lots of Freaking $$$$$ and most of the shows were filled to capacity but a few shows didn't sell out.....So maybe we need to make a few changes (lower ticket prices) etc.
I also find it interesting the band isn't going below mason dixon line in 2010 except for Miami... What are you afraid of???
Not Selling out a show??????
Honestly guys, this thread is called 'U2 360 Boxscore Discussion' not 'All Boxscore Discussion'.
That said,
Well if you only charge 50 bucks a ticket you aint gonna make 30 million a day...
Agree about the highest price tickets.
U2 must have sold a hell of a lot of those tickets to people who don't understand that there is no "best seat in the house" in a stadium.
There are only varying grades of limited view seats.
Fair play to the band though for in the introduction of the lowest price tickets.
I had a £30 ticket in Sheffield and have to say that i believe there is no way that the £150 ones were 5 times better.
Saying all that...U2/Live Nation are still to be congratulted on getting their ticket sales stategy pretty much as good as you can get.
U2 must have sold a hell of a lot of those tickets to people who don't understand that there is no "best seat in the house" in a stadium.
There are only varying grades of limited view seats.
Fair play to the band though for in the introduction of the lowest price tickets.
I had a £30 ticket in Sheffield and have to say that i believe there is no way that the £150 ones were 5 times better.
Saying all that...U2/Live Nation are still to be congratulted on getting their ticket sales stategy pretty much as good as you can get.
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If that were the case, every concert would be marked a sellout.
Again, my statement of relatively unknown refered to the summer when the album was first released. I mistakenly thought that was the summer of 1976 instead of 1975.
Its also not clear that the album had sold 4.5 million copies by the time they were opening for The Eagles in 1976. The album is certified for 5 million in sales in the USA, but that occured in October 1986, 10 years after the fact.
There is a difference between a band that has multiple hit albums and one that has only had one hit album. Most people I would think understand that difference.
Well, then what are you waiting for? Name them and their boxoffice results.
Its your logic, and yes I agree, it is silly. If Billboard is only reporting results without checking or verifiying what is reported as YOU CLAIM, then you should be able to report that you soldout the Rose Bowl, or The Staples Center, or some theater in the LA area, and then we should all be able to view the reported Boxscore on next weeks Boxscore chart.
So go ahead and contact Billboard and tell them you soldout some venue in the LA area and we should be able to see it on the following weeks Billboard.Biz Boxscore chart. Of course, let us know the artist name that your going to use.
Yet, your still claiming that a promoter can simply state a concert is soldout at any time. So why are so many of Springsteen's concerts not listed as sellouts? Why are there Springsteen shows that are listed as being soldout even though the capacity of the venue is actually larger than the attendance level listed for the sellout?
Again, if a promoter could declare sellout at any time, all concerts would be listed as soldout. Why would a promoter decide to not list a concert as being soldout when there were only 53 tickets left if he could do so? Especially when another performance with the same promoter was listed as a sellout, despite not having an attendance as high as the maximum physical capacity of the venue.
genesis199125
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But the real problem is Live Nation and U2 not allowing any bad publicity. The shows are not sellouts in that they were full to capacity. They were sellouts in the minds of Live Nation and U2. I have made this point earlier that this is similar to bean counters at Goldman Sachs or Wallstreet. Limit information and keep the buzz alive.
People should know how poor some of the $250 seats are for this show. It would be better to buy the cheaper seats as there is little difference in perception from a far. Think how many southern Californians paid 250 and they were 1/4 mile from stage. Rose bowl is large and wide compared to newer stadiums.
This tour has been greatest hits tour (pay for the infrustructure) and all we can hope is next year they won't be worried about paying the bills and might play songs not often heard. I was looking at the DVD's band has released and you could find about 10 songs or more that have been on every tour for decade.
I watch Rolling Stones show on MTV recently which was a stadium arena tour from 80's. Philly I beleive) The setlist went all the way back to their first albums just like they did in 2005.
Also I didnt see any monitors scrolling the lyrics for Mick as he ran around the stage like a tiger on a mission. There wasn't even a video screen shown (not sure if they had one) so Stones had to do their magic with music and Mick's swagger.
The other thing I notice is the ego part of performance. Most bands never mention their stage or props (how do you like our space ship etc) or do they mention how many people are in attendance (more then the pope)
Usually a bands come out and play their music and let it do the bragging. Maybe that is what Bono needs to do.
Or just be honest and say we had a great tour made lots of Freaking $$$$$ and most of the shows were filled to capacity but a few shows didn't sell out.....So maybe we need to make a few changes (lower ticket prices) etc.
I also find it interesting the band isn't going below mason dixon line in 2010 except for Miami... What are you afraid of???
Not Selling out a show??????
First of all, this is a thread for boxscore discussion...not your opinion on U2's music and their performance on stage. You can go somewhere else to discuss that.
And just to let you know.... the Rolling Stones only played three songs from their new album on their last tour....compared to U2, who have been playing 6-7 songs.
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Really, so half the crowd was there for Fleetwood Mac even though they only had one hit album at the time? What is your source for this claim? Lady GaGa is "hot" right now, but she can't co-headline a stadium show with anyone.
LOL, the first time the Police ever came to the United States was on October 20, 1978. They were playing clubs at the time. They returned in the Spring of 1979 and played more clubs and some theaters. Then in the fall of 1979 they came to the United States for the second album and played all theaters. They returned in the fall of 1980 again to play theaters on the Zenyatta Mondatta tour. Their first arena show ever in the United States was in January 1981 at Madison square Garden. They also played an arena in St. Louis and one in Los Angeles then they were off to Australia, New Zealand and Japan.
For the Ghost in the Machine Tour, the band played arena's first in Europe in the fall of 1981. They then came to the United States in January of 1982 for the first full scale arena tour.
It was not until the release of the Synchronicity album in June of 1983 that the Police started to be booked in stadiums in the major cities. Synchronicity tour started on July 23, 1983 at Comisky Park in Chicago. They played other stadiums in North America during that summer including Hollywood Park in LA, Oakland Stadium in Oakland, The Big "O" in Montreal, CNE Stadium in Toronto, Holleder Stadium in Rochester New York, Shea Stadium in New York City, Sullivan Stadium near Boston MA, JFK Stadium in Philadelphia as well as multiple arena dates in many cities.
After a tour of Europe in the fall of 1983, they came back to North America playing primiarly arena's as well stadiums like the Orange Bowl in Miami and the Tangerine Bowl in Orlando. They also played the Carrier Dome in New York in February 1984 and Aloha Stadium in Hawaii before heading off to Australia and New Zealand for stadium shows there.
So there was not Police stadium tour in 1979-1980 in North America or anywhere else in the world. The band was still playing theaters at that time along with a few arena's in some markets in Europe.
Again, the way a sellout gets marked for any artist is the SAME. You release x amount of tickets and if all are sold, the concert gets marked a sellout. Its pretty simple.
Plus, its NEVER bad publicity to play to over 50,000 people anywhere regardless if the attendance equals the max capacity of the venue. The average attendance on the ZOO TV Stadium tour in North America was only 43,000! The smallest attendance on this tour was 49,000 at sheffield in England. The average attendance is 71,000.
Nearly every show is setting attendance records.
The vast majority of people going to the show know what a football stadium is, and are well aware of the type of seat they are buying.
The band played 24 songs at the Rose Bowl performance. 7 were from the NEW album and no song on the new album has been a radio HIT. They played City Of Blinding Lights which failed to make the HOT 100 and Vertigo which only made it to #30. They played 5 songs from ATYCLB only two of which, Beautiful Day and Stuck In A Moment, actually made the HOT 100 singles chart. Thats 14 songs, 60% of the show and only 3 hit songs.
They played 10 songs from before the year 2000, when most of their radio hits were released. But here, we have Unforgettable Fire and MLK that were NEVER radio hits. Sunday Bloody Sunday never made the HOT 100 although it has become a classic over time. 3 big hits were played from Joshua Tree, With Or Without, ISHFWILF, and WTSHNN. Then there were 4 songs from Achtung, only two of which were hits One and Mysterious Ways
So, out of 24 songs played, they only played 8 songs that were actually hits at radio. Thats not a greatest hits tour. Plus Greatest Hits Tours don't play 7 songs from the latest album.
Now that is a greatest hits tours. Playing large amounts of old material that everyone knows as opposed to playing much of the new album.
If you don't like U2, why did you register and become a member of a U2 fan website?
Well, has there ever been another artist to do this well below the Mason Dixon line on a single tour? Check out these BELOW THE MASON DIXON LINE boxscores for U2 360:
September 29, 2009
Landover, Maryland
Fedex Field
GROSS: $6,718,315 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 84,754 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $79.27
October 1, 2009
Charlottesville, Virginia
Scott Stadium
GROSS: $4,738,695
ATTENDANCE: 52,433
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $90.38
October 3, 2009
Raleigh, North Carolina
Carter-Finely Stadium
GROSS: $4,962,240 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 55,027
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $90.18
October 6, 2009
Atlanta, Georgia
Georgia Dome
GROSS: $5,746,430 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 61,419 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $93.56
October 9, 2009
Tampa, Florida
Raymond James Stadium
GROSS: $6,399,375 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 72,688 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $88.04
October 12, 2009
Dallas, Texas
Cowboys Stadium
GROSS: $6,664,880 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 70,766 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $94.18
Every show set attendance and gross records for the venue played except for the Charlottesville show.
ijwthstd
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Box Scores weres originally a tool for promotors to assess risk back when most promotors were regional or local, not for fanboys to wank themselves to sleep over. Very rarely did you have one promotor handling an entire tour under close media scrutiny.
But not relatively unknown. A band that was together about a decade had a breakthrough album with many hit songs. They were part of the soft rock scene that was huge at the time. Most of those stadium shows had bills that had mostly those kinds of bands (Poco, Loggins And Messina, etc). I really doubt most of those records were sold in the 1980's. Sure, some on the heels of Rumors, but enough to headline some stadium gigs of their own that year.
Things were different in 1970's. Music itself was much bigger than it is now. I would hardly classify Fleetwood Mac as a potential one hit wonder in 1976, they were near the forefront of a music scene that was also massive in popularity (and the Eagles/Fleetwood Mac lineup may be returning to stadiums in 2010).
If you want box office results, find them yourself.
Peter Frampton with Yes - Anaheim Stadium (Anaheim, CA) - July 17, 1976
The Beach Boys with The Doobie Brothers - Arrowhead Stadium (Kansas City, MO) - July 23, 1976
Jethro Tull with Robin Trower & Rory Gallagher - Shea Stadium (Flushing, NY) - July 23, 1976
ZZ Top with Blue Oyster Cult, Johnny Winter, Edgar Winter & Rory Gallagher - Anaheim Stadium (Anaheim, CA) - August 7, 1976
Jethro Tull - Arrowhead Stadium (Kansas City, MO) - August 8, 1976
Peter Frampton - The Tangerine Bowl (Orlando, FL) - September 4, 1976
Jethro Tull with Nils Lofgren - L.A. Memorial Coliseum (Los Angeles, CA) - August 15, 1976
3/21/76 The Who @ Anaheim Stadium
9/12/76 Aerosmith/Jeff Beck @ Anaheim Stadium
7/4/76 Eagles/Fleetwood Mac @ Tampa Stadium
1976 Eagles/Fleetwood Mac @ Foxboro
ZZ Top, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Elvin Bishop & Point Blank - Groves Stadium (Winston-Salem, NC) - May 29, 1976
Yes with Pousette-Dart Band - Roosevelt Stadium (Jersey City, NJ) - June 17, 1976
Summer Jam - Fleetwood Mac, REO Speedwagon, Henry Gross, Kansas, Head East - Royals Stadium (Kansas City, MO) - June 18, 1976
ZZ Top with The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band - Arrowhead Stadium (Kansas City, MO) - July 11, 1976
Aerosmith 1976-05-08 Pontiac MI Silverdome Metropolitan Stadium
Aerosmith 1976-06-27 New Orleans LA City Park Stadium
Aerosmith 1976-06-12 Pittsburgh PA Three Rivers Stadium
Aerosmith 1976-07-04 Winston-Salem NC Groves Stadium
Aerosmith 1976-09-03 Seattle WA The Kingdome
Aerosmith 1976-09-08 Tempe AZ Sun Devil Stadium
The Who 07-08-1976: Jacksonville, FL, Gator Bowl
The Who 08-08-1976: Miami, Fl, Baseball Stadium
KISS
July 10 - Roosevelt Stadium, Jersey City, NJ
July 23 - Rickwood Stadium, Birmingham, AL
Aug 17 - Tempe Stadium, Tempe, AZ
Aug 20 - Anaheim Stadium, Anaheim, CA w/ Ted Nugent, Uriah Heep, Bob Seger
Aug 29 - Fulton County Stadium, Atlanta, GA
Sep 6 - 6 - Varsity Stadium, Toronto, Ontario, Canada w/ Artful Dodger, BOC ** Minor fan riot...
FLEETWOOD MAC (The Fleetwood Mac Legacy - no mention of other acts on the bill)
May 2, 1976 Campus Field Santa Barbara, CA
May 28, 1976 Busch Stadium St. Louis, MO
June 20, 1976 Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (Concert capacity for Iowa Jams in 1980's was about 37,000)
June 26, 1976 Parade Stadium, Minneapolis, MN
June 30, 1976 Riverfront Stadium Cincinnati, OH
July 14, 1976 Colt Park, Hartford, CT
July 18, 1976 Mile High Stadium Denver, CO
July 21, 1976 Washington Park Chicago, IL
July 24, 1976 Three Rivers Stadium Pittsburgh, PA
4/25/76 Oakland Stadium
Peter Frampton
Fleetwood Mac
Gary Wright/Status Quo
Notes: Dog #1 (9) "The British Are Back"
5/1/76 Oakland Stadium
Peter Frampton
Fleetwood Mac
Gary Wright/UFO
Notes: Dog #2 (10) "The British Are Back!"
6/5/76 Oakland Stadium
Boz Scaggs/Tower Of Power
Santana
Jeff Beck/Journey
Notes: Dog #3 (11)
6/6/76 Oakland Stadium
J. Geils Band
Jeff Beck
Blue Oyster Cult
Notes: Dog #4 (12)
Also: Mahogany Rush, Sammy Hagar
Sammy Played Too Long And We Did The Set Change In 8
Minutes
6/11/76 Oakland Stadium
Marvin Gaye
Temptations
Nancy Wilson
Notes: SF Kool Jazz Festival. Also: Harold Melvin, Donald Byrd,
Hampton Hawes
6/12/76 Oakland Stadium
Natalie Cole
Smokey Robinson
Staple Singers
Notes: SF Kool Jazz Festival. Also: Teddy Pendergrass, B.B.
King, Archie Bell
7/2/76 Oakland Stadium
Beach Boys
America
Elvin Bishop/John Sebastian
Notes: Dog # 5 (13)
8/3/76 Oakland Stadium
Eagles
Loggins & Messina
Linda Ronstadt/Renaissance
Notes: Dog # 6 (14)
10/9/76 Oakland Stadium
Who
Grateful Dead
Notes: Dog #7 (15)
10/10/76 Oakland Stadium
Who
Grateful Dead
Notes: Dog #8 (16)
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Maybe when the tour XXXX is putting together for early 2010 comes around I will be able to provide more inside.
Springsteen uses different promotors depending on the market. He is also notorious as a high cost/high risk act who promotors often take a loss on.
Again, Box Scores is a tool promotors use to share info with each other. The U2 tour is unique in that there is only one promotor and a lot of media scrutiny. This is not like other tours.
beau99
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Simply put, no.
In 2007, Japanese metal band Dir en grey headlined NA for the first time. They played clubs, meaning you HAVE to sell out each ticket. Promoter said 5 shows sold out. Promoter was lying, as Dir en grey only sold out Toronto.
Actually, she could if she wanted to. She was going to co-headline stadiums with Kanye West in 2010 before he canceled on her.
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Maoil is the only one who is giving facts and this other guy is too lazy to back up the words that are coming out of his rear end.
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Again, if your logic was correct, every show would be marked a sellout regardless of the tour was handled by a single promoter or multiple promoters. U2 has been handled by a single Promoter since 1997.
Regardless, of whether its one promoter or multiple promoters, if every show could be marked a sellout by simply stating that it was a sellout, they would be.
By the way, is that you MOGGIO?
In 1975 when the Fleetwood Mac album was first released, they were relatively unknown. No Gold albums, and No albums that had ever sold enough to be in the top 30 before.
Really, well whats your source showing that they actually headlined a single show that year?
Actually it was much smaller. The size of the music industry peaked in the year 2000. It was only in 1976 that the industry introduced an award for platinum, an not until 1984 that the multi-platinum album became common.
Well, thats precisely what they would have been if they had broken up at the end of 1976.
All that but no boxoffice results and no real sources. Interesting.
Hey, report and we'll see if it shows up on the boxscore chart. After all, this should happen based on your logic.
No need to wait. Remember, Billboard Boxscore just reports to the information. They don't verify anything! So go ahead and contact Billboard Boxscore and tell them you soldout a venue of your choice. Let us know the name and will see if it shows up in next weeks Billboard Boxscore.
Thats completely irrelevant based on your claims that the promoter can declare a show soldout at any time. Again, why don't you contact Billboard and tell them you soldout the Staples Center? According to you, they don't check or verify anything, so you should be able to get your false boxscore up there on the chart.
I got news for ya, most tours by popular artist these days only use ONE promoter. But, again this has NOTHING to do with this claim of yours that any promoter at any time can simply declare a sellout. If that were the case, every show would be marked a sellout. What promoter would not mark a show as a sellout for the artist they were working for if in fact they could as you say? Whether there is one promoter or multiple promoters makes no difference.
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Well, how would you know either way? Was this posted in Billboard Boxscore?
That was an ARENA TOUR(up to 20,000 capacity), not a stadium tour(up to 100,000 capacity). Huge difference!
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This is off the subject a tad, but was there ever any boxscores produced for Robbie Williams? Especially for the Close Encounters Tour? He played to something like 2.7 million people in stadiums in Europe on that tour. Just wondering.
ijwthstd
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He is also making ridiculous statements like "report yourself sold out to Pollstar," that casts further doubt on his credibility. I am not a musician or performer of any kind so I will not be selling out any shows any shows anywhere or drawing any people to anyplace on planet Earth any time soon.
genesis199125
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He obviously made that statement to show how ridiculous you and badu2fan are acting, because you all are making generalized statements without having any hard proof to back up said statements.
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No, Billboard Boxscore. Using your logic, as long as you can contact billboard Boxscore, you can tell them that you soldout whatever venue you want since they don't verify or check anything. Then it should be posted in next weeks Billboard Boxscore.
This is not my logic, its yours. Yes, I agree it is ridiculous and silly.
But come on now, test your theory out. This would certainly be a big hoot here if you made it on the Boxscore list for a week and I would certainly stand corrected.
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I think there have been, plus you can search for that online now with Google Books. There are hundreds of back issues of Billboard Magazine online now that you can view. Just get a list of the concert tour your thinking about and then look up the coresponding months for Billboard Magazine and I think you should find some of them.
Some years are completely online now, others are not.
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