Unkown Caller trying to rip off coldplays lost...

[BVS]

Surely we're capable of looking at the guy's talent (or lack thereof) and commenting on it without slamming him personally?

I'm not a big Coldplay fan and am very indifferent to Chris Martin, but I would hope we could stick to talking about someone's talent... or at least if you're going to call someone names have something to back it up.

 

[VintagePunk]

I'm not a big Coldplay fan and am very indifferent to Chris Martin, but I would hope we could stick to talking about someone's talent... or at least if you're going to call someone names have something to back it up.

I'm not a big fan either. I really liked Parachutes and Rush of Blood, but since then, I find them...well...bland and inoffensive. Other than Saturday afternoon boredom, I really have no reason to be defending Chris Martin on an internet forum. The whole "Chris Martin is a douche" just thing strikes me as very odd, when he's clearly not, and yet within the world of popular music, it would be extremely easy to come up with lots of performers who do have proven track records as being douches. The industry is full of douches, but I don't think Martin is one of them.

I can't fault Martin for being a U2 fanboy. I think that's rather endearing, and very complementary toward U2. And if those who think he's a douche are threatened by Coldplay's popularity, that's kind of silly, too. U2 thrive on friendly competition, and are more than capable of rising to the occasion.

The whole thing's just crazy.

 

[gherman]

I'm not a big fan either. I really liked Parachutes and Rush of Blood, but since then, I find them...well...bland and inoffensive. Other than Saturday afternoon boredom, I really have no reason to be defending Chris Martin on an internet forum. The whole "Chris Martin is a douche" just thing strikes me as very odd, when he's clearly not, and yet within the world of popular music, it would be extremely easy to come up with lots of performers who do have proven track records as being douches. The industry is full of douches, but I don't think Martin is one of them.

I can't fault Martin for being a U2 fanboy. I think that's rather endearing, and very complementary toward U2. And if those who think he's a douche are threatened by Coldplay's popularity, that's kind of silly, too. U2 thrive on friendly competition, and are more than capable of rising to the occasion.

The whole thing's just crazy.

He's a douche. Actually a "douche bag"

If would sing and not say anything because when he does stupid shit comes out. He's a fucking douche bag god damn it. If you think he is or not or anyone else my word is THE word and he's a douche

 

[BVS]

 

[Popmartijn]

He's a douche. Actually a "douche bag"

If would sing and not say anything because when he does stupid shit comes out. He's a fucking douche bag god damn it. If you think he is or not or anyone else my word is THE word and he's a douche

I presume you're talking about Bono. Because that's what I see many people are calling him.
Oh well... Everyone's gotta hate someone...

 

[zooropop40]

I think some U2 fans "hate" coldplay because they have become the new big thing for young adults and teenagers...and those U2 fans are frustrated that those kids either disregard or dont realize U2.

For instance I know a coldplay fan who said this: "Oh I love coldplay! but U2.. they are not my kind of music, I personally think they suck..."

I love both bands, but I feel that maybe Coldplay's recent popularity has gone to Martin's ego and its more of the fans I think U2 fans are frustrated with.

For me, its like Coldplay is a good cover band of U2 and radiohead, etc.., but why would I listen to them when I could listen to the real thing?! Its like every time I listen to coldplay, I am just thinking "hmm... I could be listening to U2 right now"

In other words, as my brother would say, "Coldplay is the poor man's version of U2"

but again, I do love both bands.

 

[gherman]

I think some U2 fans "hate" coldplay because they have become the new big thing for young adults and teenagers...and those U2 fans are frustrated that those kids either disregard or dont realize U2.

For instance I know a coldplay fan who said this: "Oh I love coldplay! but U2.. they are not my kind of music, I personally think they suck..."

I love both bands, but I feel that maybe Coldplay's recent popularity has gone to Martin's ego and its more of the fans I think U2 fans are frustrated with.

For me, its like Coldplay is a good cover band of U2 and radiohead, etc.., but why would I listen to them when I could listen to the real thing?! Its like every time I listen to coldplay, I am just thinking "hmm... I could be listening to U2 right now"



In other words, as my brother would say, "Coldplay is the poor man's version of U2"

but again, I do love both bands.

The other thing that grinds my gears is watching Coldplay re-do shit U2 did live 15 years ago. Fucking pricks

 

[intedomine]

He skips around a yelps like a pans on stage (I feel like he should be in a Peter Pan stage play when I see him in concert), can't sing worth a shit, he thinks he's funny and cool when he's really a douche bag.

Just a few

It's called stage presence.

Martin's the most wicked frontman going around at the moment, up there with Garvey, a bit of genuine personality and really is just an average bloke living the dream and he deserves to. I wanna be him.

You know I love ya Gherman, Editors fan and all, but I'm also a Chris Martin Defender from way back, and will stop at nothing to try and convince people of Martin's awesomeness.

 

[intedomine]

I Its like every time I listen to coldplay, I am just thinking "hmm... I could be listening to U2 right now"


.

See, I hear no U2 on their first albums at all, and while it's obviously there on X&Y and VLVODAAHF, it's not as if Coldplay try and hide the fact that they've been inspired, and the songs still sound distinctively Coldplay to me.

I dunno how Martin's been egotistical in any way. I've always struggled with this. SO what if he says we are the second biggest band in the world at the moment, or whatever, it's the truth! Why lie and be all modest, when it's only false modesty?

 

[last unicorn]

I like Coldplay and I really loved Viva la Vida when it came out, I just don't think the album has aged very well. I haven't listend to it for a while and I got bored of it pretty quickly, maybe also because Viva la vida, the song, has been played to death by radio stations. I downloaded the live album they're giving away for free these days and I think it's good, not great. I enjoyed their shows last year. I don't think about U2 when I listen to Coldplay, I don't see that many U2 connections, maybe except Brian Eno producing. And whoever said U2 sound like Coldplay on their new album should have their ears checked. The world is big enough for both bands, and there are certainly a lot of bands whose sound reminds me of U2, but strangely Coldplay isn't one of them.

 

[last unicorn]

Sorry, double post, my internet seems to be f***ed up today.

 

[super fly guy]

It's called stage presence.

Martin's the most wicked frontman going around at the moment, up there with Garvey, a bit of genuine personality and really is just an average bloke living the dream and he deserves to. I wanna be him.

You know I love ya Gherman, Editors fan and all, but I'm also a Chris Martin Defender from way back, and will stop at nothing to try and convince people of Martin's awesomeness.

Every time martin starts his antics on stage,i want to just walk up behind him and give him a big kick up the arse! Such a false ''rock'' star.

 

[Popmartijn]

I love how all these threads where there's only the merest mention of Coldplay turn into a bashing fest of that band (and/or its frontman). It seems there are many U2 fans who have issues with their own feeling of security.

Going back to the original subject, I don't hear any Lost rip-off in Unknown Caller, so I don't know what the person coming up with that theory was using. Are there any specific things/sounds/sections I need to listen to?

 

[Vlad n U 2]

Oh noes! I wonder how the folks from Coldplaying will feel if they see these posts!?

Uh oh, back in the box for Vlad.

 

[corianderstem]

He skips around a yelps like a pans on stage (I feel like he should be in a Peter Pan stage play when I see him in concert),

1) Pans? Short for "pansy?" If so, nice.

Seriously. And he's the one calling someone else a douchebag? Talk about the pot and the kettle.

 

[LemonMelon]

I'm in the minority here that prefers Lost to UC. But this isn't because I consider UC a ripoff. I wish The 2 had actually tried that angle, maybe the song would be more listenable than it currently is.

 

[BVS]

seriously. And he's the one calling someone else a douchebag? Talk about the pot and the kettle.

for the win!!!

 

[rjhbonovox]

Accoring to this:

"Then we turn to the downside. ‘Unknown Caller’ has to be one of the more bizarre and incomprehensible songs, with the irritating lyrics seemingly taken from random computer-related jargon, and sounds like a bad attempt to rip-off Coldplay’s ‘Lost!’ from Viva La Vida. ‘"

Whoever wrote that has shit for brains. Unknown Caller is about a million times better than Lost, and I actually think Lost is a pretty good song. Unknown Caller is the song of this decade!

 

[youarenotimmune]

Ye could say Winter was a Coldplay rip off,
well not a rip off, but heavilly inspired by them.

there's this rumor (and it has been discussed on this forum before) that Eno gave both U2 and Coldplay a sample to work with (the start of Winter/Viva La Vida), and both bands developed the aforementioned songs independently from there on. so if you believe that, Winter is definitely NOT a Coldplay ripoff.

actually even if it isn't true, the only similarity between Winter and Viva La Vida is the start, from then on they are both COMPLETELY different songs.

and we all know how frustrated Eno was with U2 for shelving Winter. He literally begged them to take it up and work on it more, but they were more interested in Bono's beloved rock 45s. I personally wish they had listened to Eno, because Winter had the potential of being a truly great song (hell, it's better than Viva la Vida (the song) even in it's current format!)

 

[youarenotimmune]

I think some U2 fans "hate" coldplay because they have become the new big thing for young adults and teenagers...and those U2 fans are frustrated that those kids either disregard or dont realize U2.

For instance I know a coldplay fan who said this: "Oh I love coldplay! but U2.. they are not my kind of music, I personally think they suck..."

this is probably very true! I have a lot of friends who are HUGE fans of Coldplay, yet they disregard U2 and Radiohead (especially U2) as being irrelevant bands! i have no problem with anybody loving coldplay or chris martin, but such kind of ignorance really gets under my skin!

 

[youarenotimmune]

For me, its like Coldplay is a good cover band of U2 and radiohead, etc.., but why would I listen to them when I could listen to the real thing?!

and this is exactly why I am pretty much indifferent about Coldplay. they hav a lot of very nice songs, but they don't really do anything for me. U2 and radiohead have their own unique sound and style, but coldplay doesn't bring anything new to the table! like i said, it's nice music to listen to sometimes, but it's nothing more than that. no ingenuity, no creativity, nothing new.

their last album is a perfect example. i thought there were some really good tunes on there (especially Lost & Strawberry Swing), but it was ultimately very forgettable for me. I think I barely listened to those songs for a few weeks. that's the problem with coldplay songs for me! very short lifespan! and I think U2 and Radiohead are my favourite bands for this very reason; their music is incredibly enduring!

Album of 2007 - In Rainbows
Album of 2009 - No Line on the Horizon

 

[ybab gnuthca]

At least Chris Martin is yet to sit with 15-18-year-old girls in bikinis on his lap and touch them, at the age of 48.

if Chris does that in some 16 years time, then I will agree to call him a douche.

 

[popacrobat]

"touch them" lol.

 

[Yahweh]

The only thing that was Lost was the reviewer when they wrote this review because I dont hear any comparison between the 2 tracks.

 

[Diane L]

Oh, this is an interesting thread! I've just blogged about my sudden obsession with Coldplay today.

I don't hear a similarity between Unknown Caller and Lost. Edge's guitar at the end...I don't think the Coldplay guitarist (whose name I don't know--they are pretty much Chris Martin and the Other Guys to me) will ever reach this level of brilliance.

I've been listening to Viva La Vida the past few days and while it has some great songs on it, I still prefer NLOTH. Breathe is by far the best song on either album, IMHO. While Coldplay is young and talented and fresh...they aren't U2. And while Chris Martin is a charismatic cutie, no one...NO ONE...is, or will ever be, as magnificent as Our Bono.

 

[digitize]

there's this rumor (and it has been discussed on this forum before) that Eno gave both U2 and Coldplay a sample to work with (the start of Winter/Viva La Vida), and both bands developed the aforementioned songs independently from there on. so if you believe that, Winter is definitely NOT a Coldplay ripoff.

actually even if it isn't true, the only similarity between Winter and Viva La Vida is the start, from then on they are both COMPLETELY different songs.

and we all know how frustrated Eno was with U2 for shelving Winter. He literally begged them to take it up and work on it more, but they were more interested in Bono's beloved rock 45s. I personally wish they had listened to Eno, because Winter had the potential of being a truly great song (hell, it's better than Viva la Vida (the song) even in it's current format!)

The more I think about it, despite how much I love NLOTH in its current format (top three U2 albums for me, tied with Pop for the slot after Achtung Baby), I agree with this statement. Brian was right in his "ballads for the future" or whatever statement.

Oh, this is an interesting thread! I've just blogged about my sudden obsession with Coldplay today.

I don't hear a similarity between Unknown Caller and Lost. Edge's guitar at the end...I don't think the Coldplay guitarist (whose name I don't know--they are pretty much Chris Martin and the Other Guys to me) will ever reach this level of brilliance.

I've been listening to Viva La Vida the past few days and while it has some great songs on it, I still prefer NLOTH. Breathe is by far the best song on either album, IMHO. While Coldplay is young and talented and fresh...they aren't U2. And while Chris Martin is a charismatic cutie, no one...NO ONE...is, or will ever be, as magnificent as Our Bono.

Never say never. The future lies in the future, not the past... great music will not be created by pretenders, but by innovators, who realize the mistakes of past music, capitalize on them, and build their own new directions while trying not to stagnate... kind of like what U2 have done over the past thirty years. I hope to see U2 and Bono active for years to come, and I love them all, but I do really have hopes that there will be bands that will manage to surpass U2 in this.

 

[powerhour24]

What the hell? I think its clear the gospel nature of the lyrics goes over 99% of people's heads, but statements like this are what scares me a lot about humanity, their complete lack of knowledge of music, not even acknowledging that it's ridiculous to say U2 would ripoff CP instead of the other way, but damn know anything, but show me anything those songs have in common besides some instrumentation, hell MOS is certainly a Lost! ripoff, because it has organ in it.

Also, anyone with half a brain could see that UC had been in the works long before VLV came out. Halfwits

 

[powerhour24]

The brilliance of UC lies in its unexpected uplift from the lyrics, and the mixing of so many odd musical influences into one powerful and digestible song, I mean the chorus is like 1000 year old chant music, and a disorienting guitar solo to top it off. The thing is, more than most songs on NLOTH which as a whole requires a tad more attention to get the whole thing than the masses can spare, it really takes a few listens to understand and appreciate, but when you do... damn. So in the end, while people trouble me, if they write off material like NLOTH for lack of attention or musical/emotional understanding, that's their loss.

 

[mikal]

The brilliance of UC lies in its unexpected uplift from the lyrics, and the mixing of so many odd musical influences into one powerful and digestible song, I mean the chorus is like 1000 year old chant music, and a disorienting guitar solo to top it off. The thing is, more than most songs on NLOTH which as a whole requires a tad more attention to get the whole thing than the masses can spare, it really takes a few listens to understand and appreciate, but when you do... damn. So in the end, while people trouble me, if they write off material like NLOTH for lack of attention or musical/emotional understanding, that's their loss.

yep. and the first minute of this song couldn't paint the picture of "morning" any better.

 

[powerhour24]