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anitram
anitram said:I don't know if terrorism is winnable or not - you can kill a man, but not an idea. What were Che Guevara's last words "Shoot, coward, you're only killing a man." Goes to show you what the legacy can be, even if you chop off the head.
That said, you do need a concerted effort to go and root out terrorists wherever they are and develop a strategy to root out terrorism as a whole, even if it takes 500 years. The problem, as I see it, is that we are barking up the wrong tree in Iraq entirely. The war on terror will not be won here at all, it needs to be won in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, two states which breed terrorists by the dozens and yet we ally themselves with them. It's seriously a demented policy. Truth be told, I don't think Iran is any better than these two, and yet where are we? Iraq. There were considerably larger fish to fry, and we sit now negotiating with a lunatic cleric, watching people getting heads chopped off, a soccer team that sees us as oppressors while those peace-loving madrassas in Saudi, Pakistan and Iran are churning out baby Osamas and brainwashing those children into a future of murder and destruction.
We're fighting the wrong war here.
STING2 said:Pakistan and its terrorism have been primarily aimed at the situation in Kashmire.
anitram said:
Oh, well so long as they're killing other people's children, that's A-Okay with us.
paxetaurora said:Scarletwine, I think the last part of your post was unnecessary. We have the right to our differing opinions. "F***ing warmongers" isn't exactly constructive.
anitram said:
Oh, well so long as they're killing other people's children, that's A-Okay with us.
AcrobatMan said:
They are well organised training camps in Pakistan-occupied kashmir fully funded by government of Pakistan.
I will just give you 1 link ( as an example)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/kashmir/Story/0,2763,920912,00.html
Now Bush can give more funds to Pak so that it can be funded to train jihadis bent on killing Indians ( already more than 60000 killed since 1989) , raping Indians ( already more than 6300 raped), 1200 temples destroyed, more than 300,000 displaced !!
Okay Sting - India doesnt constitute international world...wow
You are simply great !!!
STING2 said:
sharky said:That's because all the terrorists are in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, we diverted most of our troops to Iraq so instead of trying to find Osama bin Laden, we've been chasing after phanton "weapons of mass destruction related development programs".
And what have these terrorists that we've caught done for us? All the administration does is parade them out to boost their poll numbers. The MOST DISGUSTING act of this was done right after the Democratic Convention. In order to divert interest away from John Kerry, Condoleeza Rice outed an al Qaeda informant that was working on the inside getting us information.
Why do we have to depend on Pakistan to find a man who killed 3000 people on American soil? We should be finding that murderer and bringing him to justice instead of getting bogged down in Iraq. I have spent the past three years walking by the Trade Center site knowing that those that I watched die that day have still not had justice served in their name. Osama bin Laden killed people on our turf -- we should have caught him and been done with it instead of trying to find an excuse to invade Iraq and now having to warfronts with no exit strategy or end in sight.
AcrobatMan said:
Good post SHARKY
Sting2, perhaps you need to research more.
doesnt it prove the 99% of all al-qaeda members are there or Afghanistan. if they are being caught, it is not of its will..its because it HAS to because of pressure of USA. I welcome arrest of Al-qaeda members...but if 2 are being CAUGHT, 98 others are not only shielded but also trained. there was a report that foreign terrorist in north west pakistan will not be caught if they just register themselves somewhere. this was in BBC news
There are not 100 or 200 terrorists..they are in thousands..
1) do u know where did Hambali and his brothers get indoctrinated?
2) do you know who created and supported Taliban ?
3) where did Rassam undergo training ?
4) where did Aimal Kasi come from. ?
5) do you know about dawood Ibrahim and which government is not only providing safe haven but also helping him financially ?
6) there was a news of leak of nuke secrets..did you read that news.. ?
7) do you know about the terrorist camps in pak occupied kashmir ?
8) do you know anything about Masood Azhar ?
9) do you know how the present president got himself elected (??). you talk about democracy... Saddam was more democratic..remember he got 100% votes in election in Iraq..why he was the only candidate and he got 100% is another story
Unfortunately US is happy with the 1% it gets...and busy in Iraq..where there might be another 0.5% .