LuckyNumber7
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Oh hey, I work 4 blocks from the Convention Center.
I have a conference there starting Tuesday.
Welp.
US POLITICS XX: Stuck In a Caucus You Can't Get Out Of
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I have a conference there starting Tuesday.
Welp.
Gzusfrk, if character matters to you so much, and hypocrisy bothers you so much, then can I safely assume you did not and will not vote for Trump?
I did not vote for Trump in 2016, I voted third party. Like I said earlier, I agree with many of his policies and he’s gotten loads of good things accomplished for this country that I agree with.
But we have who we have. Personally I would prefer that Trump would have stepped away, and Mike Pence or Nikki Haley would have run. I would vote for either of them.
I do want to support true conservatives, and it’s easy to feel like a vote for a candidate who really is a long shot is useless, such as an independent or third party candidate, but I really loathe both the D and R parties. Too corrupt, too many special interests. I agree with a lot of what Rand Paul says economically.
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MrsSpringsteen
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Mulvaney is out, surprised it took that long. Last night I watched the Hillary docuseries on Hulu. Didn't learn anything new, just got even more depressed.
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
no Trump supporter is allowed to criticize Hunter Biden, because this is miles-beyond-miles worse:
it's like conflating "hair sniffing" with sexual assault and rape, as well as, you know, actually passing legislation that harms women as opposed to actually passing legislation that helps women.
it's like conflating "hair sniffing" with sexual assault and rape, as well as, you know, actually passing legislation that harms women as opposed to actually passing legislation that helps women.
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womanfish
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Latest Polls out this morning
National - Biden +16
Washington State - Tied
MO - Biden +22
The MO poll is a local polling operation. This may be an outlier.
National - Biden +16
Washington State - Tied
MO - Biden +22
The MO poll is a local polling operation. This may be an outlier.
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womanfish
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Can I also just say that Amy K has really put her money where her mouth is. She endorsed Biden and went right to work traveling and holding events for him.
She's doing events in MI right now. That's pretty humble and impressive. Does she have a shot at VP? Is she trying for that? or you think she is just doing what she thinks is necessary for Biden to win?
She's doing events in MI right now. That's pretty humble and impressive. Does she have a shot at VP? Is she trying for that? or you think she is just doing what she thinks is necessary for Biden to win?
Irvine511
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Irvine511
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It’s because they’re ALL PERVERTS. Therefore, it’s fine to vote for Trump, because Biden sniffs hair and I think that’s the same as grabbing women by the pussy, it’s negated and I can focus on tax cuts.
Or the tax cuts for people much wealthier than I.
This is how they justify things like this to themsleves.
LuckyNumber7
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Spooked by the socialist thing lmao while probably true, open your eyes people, the kind of shit proposed exists in every other country. They’re not “socialists,” not that that’s inherently a negative thing. Basic human rights, and you’ve all been duped. Welcome to America, where coronavirus will spread faster than everywhere else because everyone’s fucking afraid of the hospital.
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womanfish
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Yeah, I definitely know what you mean. Every reasonable person knows that we have a partial socialist system already. But I think Sanders presentation of it, his absolutism, creates a political ceiling for him, that has become quite obvious that he has reached.
Obviously the "socialist" label is going to be an issue in this country, especially outside the Dem party.
Again, I think this is part of Sanders miscalculation. It got him his base in 2016, but then boxed him in for this run, making it nearly impossible to expand his support.
It's those things that make me wonder if he really wants to be president, or does he just want to be an historical figure/martyr type.
The whole revolution thing is where i believe this all comes to a head for him. This is the term that created the cult of personality that continues. But again, only is appealing to a small slice of the electorate. It also is key in his lack of AA support. Many black voters have such a different lived experience, that doesn't lend itself to revolution. They are the bedrock of the Democratic party, and Bernie's "establishment" talk, comes more like an insult to them, than an inspiration.
If Sanders had initially come at this more like Warren, about just making big changes to the existing system, and not calling for a revolution, then I think he may have had wider appeal. But it just isn't happening. Set aside the fact that our entire political system, set up by the Founding Fathers, was designed specifically to avoid a revolution by one person or party.
LuckyNumber7
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You’re probably right, and there’s always an issue with fundamentalism and reality vs actuality. With that being said, I loathe what I’ll call “synthetic pragmatism.” A lot of what we are seeing is society saying it’s not possible, and the only reason it isn’t possible is because society says so. That’s bullshit. Would prefer true calculation.
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womanfish
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well said. I would like to see bolder plans to start with from Biden/Amy, etc... Although I do think that Biden does have a very strong environmental plan, and I like his strength on gun issues. Healthcare, it would nice to see stronger initial stance to give more room for negotiation. And I think if Biden were smart, he could have at least taken a version of Warren's wealth tax and adopted it.
I think that Trump really threw the wrench in the gears. It made Biden's presentation for his run to be returning our country to normalcy. Turns out, it was a smart play, but i think it also made for a milder platform.
I agree that Klobuchar is gunning for VP but Biden is already strong in the middle and battleground states. What he needs is somebody more progressive to get the left wing of the base to be more excited. They will be massively deflated come the convention.
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womanfish
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Totally agree. That's why I keep coming back to Abrams. Her youth and activism with voting rights alone would go a long way with keeping thing unified. And maybe GA to boot.
https://twitter.com/katiephang/status/1236332978948767744?s=21
Whoever wins for the Dems is going to face unprecedented attacks from all angles.
The GOP will do everything and anything to win
Whoever wins for the Dems is going to face unprecedented attacks from all angles.
The GOP will do everything and anything to win
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Biden has raised 22 million in 5 days.
probably about 3 months worth of his normal
probably about 3 months worth of his normal
Moonlit_Angel
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I'll agree with this. We got men to the moon, for cripes' sakes, yet somehow making significant changes to our healthcare system, or implementing gun control, or things like that, are somehow out of reach? Okay. I do think our country could use something like that as a rallying point, both to get this stuff implemented and to help make Americans feel inspired and hopeful in general again, and more inclined to tackle other problems, no matter how big or small.
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
No, you’re unaware of the fact that your whole schtick of “I didn’t vote for him but cheer on everything he does”, is now what you are saying the other side is guilty of. You’re absolutely unaware that you’re looking in the mirror. Very few are 100% excited about the choices they have, most in here acknowledges the weaknesses of the candidates put forth.
But one is the party pretending to be the moral, Christian, evangelical party with a porn star pay off in the WH.
And how dare you call Biden a pedophile just because he believes that ‘freedom has a scent like the top of newborn baby’s head’?
Seems the new talking point or smear against Biden is his diminishing mental ability. Jill Stein has weighed in and said she sees significant regression of his mental facility
Yet no one wants to diagnose Trump??
Biden apparently is in hiding. The DNC doesn’t want him out in public to prove he’s near coma state...
Yet he’s been out campaigning the entire week and weekend
BUT HIS BRAIN CELLS!!!
Yet no one wants to diagnose Trump??
Biden apparently is in hiding. The DNC doesn’t want him out in public to prove he’s near coma state...
Yet he’s been out campaigning the entire week and weekend
BUT HIS BRAIN CELLS!!!
LemonMelon
More 5G Than Man
Abrams and Harris have to be top 2 candidates for VP. Biden is flush with interesting options and it would be a crime if he wasted that opportunity.
I know everyone downplays VP but a female minority in the position would be legitimately cool and it's never been more important than with old man Biden in the running.
I know everyone downplays VP but a female minority in the position would be legitimately cool and it's never been more important than with old man Biden in the running.
Vlad n U 2
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I mean, it's plainly obvious to anyone that he's not well in that respect. You only have to hear a speech of his to see and then compare that to a decade ago. Same can be said for Trump.
It's hardly a smear.
Kamala Harris would be a wasted pick. We don't need someone from California, a state the Democrats will win by 40 points.
The VP should be
--a purple state politician with high favorability in their state
--under 60
--not up for reelection in 2020
If you don't hit those three qualifiers, you're out.
The VP should be
--a purple state politician with high favorability in their state
--under 60
--not up for reelection in 2020
If you don't hit those three qualifiers, you're out.
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