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Old 02-22-2020, 09:59 PM   #21
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Remember, a woman came out with detailed account of Trump raping her in a dressing room, and is actively using legal measures to get Trump's DNA to test against a dress.

This was a one day story, and the DNA story didn't even make the news.

Nothing matters anymore.


Just wait for the coronavirus hits the US hard. We are not prepared at all, and I’m not calling for mass death...I’m calling for mass shit show.

Think about how people without insurance (and in some cases people with really bad insurance) react when they get sick now. They tough it out for two reasons.

They can’t afford to see a doctor
They can’t afford to take time off work to recover.

The company i contract with sent out a mass email mid week saying if you’re feeling sick, stay home. If you can work from home, do it. Glad they’re pushing it.

If i were Sanders, I’d be pushing M4A on this very point. People need access to healthcare for the potential of an outbreak

Anyway. Let’s see if Amy and Warren drop out. Really surprised about Warren but the media erased her campaign and that’s been too difficult to overcome.

Curious if Trump starts attacking Bernie or does he wait until June to unleash ?
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Remember, a woman came out with detailed account of Trump raping her in a dressing room, and is actively using legal measures to get Trump's DNA to test against a dress.

This was a one day story, and the DNA story didn't even make the news.

Nothing matters anymore.

Since the 2016 election I’ve had my “Mr. Burns germ theory” for why nothing seems to stick to Trump. It’s all based on this scene from the Simpsons: https://youtu.be/aI0euMFAWF8.

Essentially, the germs in this scene are Trump’s scandals. Trump has so many scandals and examples of shitty things he’s done that none can break through the metaphorical door and sink him for good.
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If anyone wonders why longtime Democrats worry about Sanders heading to the nomination, Just watch the Joy Reid interview with Nina Turner. That was on tonight, at 10 Eastern on 2/22/20.

Joy brings up the tweet that pissed me off last night, about he Democratic Establishment.
She asks Nina in about 8 different ways if they know that they will need the Democratic voters that voted for Clinton last time in order to win. Each time she deflects and never concedes that the tweet is not the best way to bring about unity or broaden his base.
Nina replies with - the people we talk to on the trail, never ask about what party you belong to, they just want to know if you will stand up for them.

I've got news for you Nina. There are tens of millions of people who are proud to be Democrats and don't like to be labeled as the enemy. I've voted Democratic since 1996, straight blue down every ballot I've ever had in front of me. Because I'm a Democrat.

That's fairly terrifying if that is actually what they think. I would hope Bernie would know better, and she's just putting spin on a really stupid tweet. But if they are too wrapped in their own bubble, it is going to not just be harder for him to get the nomination, but will even harder to win the general than it already will be.
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news flash: politician's spokesperson refuses to give direct answer. more at 11.
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news flash: politician's spokesperson refuses to give direct answer. more at 11.
Yeah, but you can avoid the answer and not say something ignorant like people don't care what party they belong to. I just think they are naive. And I think that when Bernie was getting 20,000 people to come out to a rally in Portland, OR. He got this feeling like he was supposed to be the nominee in 2016, and all these people were coming to his rallies, so he must have more support than Clinton. So hopefully just regular bullshit spin, cause if not. God help us.

That said. Bravo to Bernie on his work with Latino voters. Amazing, and a lesson to the longtime Democrats.
if Bernie gets to the general, and he can take a huge chunk out of Trump's (inexplicable) 29% Latino support. It could be a real game changer.
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It looks like Tulsi may end up with about 100 votes in NV. I can't wait to see how she does in Super Tuesday!!
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Gabbard went so far off the deep end.
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https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/st...771417600?s=19

The Purge of the last two weeks will ensure that the entire force of the federal government will squash all news of wrong doing by the administration.

But it's also going to be used to launch investigations and pursue right wing conspiracy theories about whomever the Democratic nominee is.


We've already lost.
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The Purge of the last two weeks will ensure that the entire force of the federal government will squash all news of wrong doing by the administration.

But it's also going to be used to launch investigations and pursue right wing conspiracy theories about whomever the Democratic nominee is.


We've already lost.
Yep. I've been saying it for about a week now. Trump is going to be reelected for 2 reasons

1. Bernie
2. He's going to cheat again right out in the open and get away with it.
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I would put "he's going to cheat again in the open and nobody's going to do anything about it's as #1 with a bullet.

I'm not sold the nominee matters - as much as I agree that Sanders is the worst possible answer.
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The Purge of the last two weeks will ensure that the entire force of the federal government will squash all news of wrong doing by the administration.

But it's also going to be used to launch investigations and pursue right wing conspiracy theories about whomever the Democratic nominee is.


We've already lost.


I was told not to call it a purge...

This is why Pelosi and the Dems waiting for so long to actually do something has backfired.

While he was never going to be impeached, we could have had open hearings on all the shit to at least slow or even pressure people to do the right thing.

Now we have a government filled with moronic white supremacists
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I was told not to call it a purge...

This is why Pelosi and the Dems waiting for so long to actually do something has backfired.

While he was never going to be impeached, we could have had open hearings on all the shit to at least slow or even pressure people to do the right thing.

Now we have a government filled with moronic white supremacists
Anyone who doesn't call it a purge either isn't paying attention or is being wilfully ignorant. Even if the rank and file isn't fully impacted yet, a) all of the people on top are woefully unqualified loyalists, b) give it time.

The slope isn't slippery. It's a cliff.

They've broken down the last firewalls, and did it while we were arguing over which left of Obamacare health care policy was the leftiest.


I don't think there's anything the Democrats could have done as long as the republican party was willing to blindly follow their chosen demigod.

If they did it before Bill Barr they might have had a chance of getting more documents and witnesses. That might have helped, but I'm not sold.
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I would put "he's going to cheat again in the open and nobody's going to do anything about it's as #1 with a bullet.

I'm not sold the nominee matters - as much as I agree that Sanders is the worst possible answer.


This.

They’ve had 4 years to organize and further gaslight the general population.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/286280/...al-steady.aspx

49% approval. A net positive approval over disapproval.

43% of independents approve of Trump (no word on how many of those are solid independent conservatives).

63% of U.S. adults rate current economic conditions as either excellent or good. Just 9% rate them as poor.

By 61% to 33%, Americans say the economy is getting better rather than worse


But yes - a socialist who wants to burn down capitalism is going to swing the tide away form a literal caricature of the worst parts of capitalism.

Oh, and he's going to cheat. Hard.
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And the government and courts are set up for a Trump “loss” as well.

Quotes because he will fight to stay in power. Russia helping the Sanders campaign is brilliant.

It gives the Trump government the number one excuse to call any Democratic win RIGGED or invalid.
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Of course none of it matters cause we're all going to die from a disease the president thinks is what happens when you spend too much time at Tortilla Coast.
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I know no one cares nor should they-but I'm voting early this week and I'm not voting for Bernie. It will most likely be Warren and no I'm not voting for a woman for the sake of a woman. She has plans for how certain ideas will be paid for, Bernie doesn't seem to have many concrete plans. If the Senate stays the same it's a moot point anyway, nothing will get passed.

Was considering Bloomberg as an option until the sexual harassment stuff came out. Last straw was his answer to Warren that his involvement was maybe a few women who didn't like his "jokes". It's not locker room talk or jokes, I've dealt with it in my own life and it's degrading and demoralizing. Harvey Weinstein is probably about to be acquitted or a hung jury, that's depressing enough...

Obviously Bloomberg hasn't even learned enough in decades to not call it jokes, so that's a no for me. And there's the stop and frisk and racist comments and who knows what else.

I support Sanders if he's the nominee, he's not my choice and I don't believe he will defeat Trump. Bloomberg has the money to go up against Trump, but right now he's a trainwreck and he was in that debate. Hate to say it but right now I don't believe any of them can beat Trump.

And Stephen Miller is an evil scary person who has tremendous influence over Trump. It's sickening.
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I was leaning towards Klobuchar because of her experience and more moderate positions, but when I saw her get rattled by Mayor Pete in that last debate I couldn't see her doing well against Trump. And yes the way Warren eviscerated Bloomberg scored points for me. I would pay to see her debate Trump.
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Tom Steyer is at 18% in South Carolina
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I was leaning towards Klobuchar because of her experience and more moderate positions, but when I saw her get rattled by Mayor Pete in that last debate I couldn't see her doing well against Trump. And yes the way Warren eviscerated Bloomberg scored points for me. I would pay to see her debate Trump.
I have to wonder if the debate took place before early voting if Warren would have done better yesterday
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